Thread: Juno [MOVIE]
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Old 05-01-2008, 07:11 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by mizzm77 View Post
yea, i agree. she does originally go to get an abortion, but this kid who's pro-life tells her that the baby has finger nails, and Juno freaks out. So she decides to stay pregnant and put the baby up for adoption.
No offense, but unfortunately, this is a very superficial and shallow statement. Yes, she was told the baby had fingernails and she was surprised for a while, but she still went in and even got as far as filling up the form - meaning, she's still in for abortion. It's when she saw the other "abortion-tees", expressions, and atmosphere around her that she decided she can't do it. You can easily read it on her face that it was conscience. So, it doesn't actually matter if the fingernails were a fact or not.

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Again, I'm also not basing my opinions on this movie solely on the little snippets of previews I've seen, but also on the comments of others that have seen the movie.
Let's put it this way, an eyewitness will most definitely have the most accurate and reliable knowledge about the crime compared to the police officer who just investigated on evidences or accounts of people. The factor that makes a significant difference is because the information the eyewitness acquired is first-hand, he was there. Evidences don't lie, but they can be perceived the wrong way. Word of mouth, as you all know, can be gravely altered based on the speaker’s perspective alone. More so if the story had gone several degrees already.

I'm pretty sure you've checked reliable sources, but it's still very different when you come to a conclusion based on your own. I hope you don't take this the wrong way though, but I'm pretty positive a point can be established here somewhere.

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Tragic things have happened in all of our lives, but tragedy doesn't necessarily condemn you to an unhappy life or an unhappy ending, but having a happy ending doesn't mean the tragedy never happened.
I believe this summarizes the point and somehow also contradicts with what you're trying to say. No offense there.

"Children shouldn't have children" - that is genuinely correct. However, teen pregnancy happening still holds true. In light of this situation, don’t you think it's better to move forward rather than succumb to self-pity and wallow in the... "tragedy" (as you call it)? Tragedies can happen, but as ~river~ mentioned, "everything is not lost". Having a happy ending doesn't mean you forget the tragedy, rather learn from it.

Again, the choice between adoption and abortion is just one of the things that could've happened given the situation. It may not be exactly accurate, but that doesn't cross out the fact that it is possible, as you mentioned yourself.
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I would expect that it deals with some of the issues, like choosing between abortion and adoption for instance... that's entirely unavoidable.
Would you have preferred if Juno had the baby aborted? Again, I quote myslef:
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I agree that adoption doesn't solve all problems, but I also strongly believe that it's more humane than killing an innocent life.
It's about making the best out of your mistakes instead of crying in one corner and just waiting hopelessly for things to happen. It's your mistake, your tragedy, at least do something about it.

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I've yet to hear anyone say it was "okay" or anything less than good, but I just don't care to see it.
That's why we'll just go back to square one, which unfortunately (and ironically) boils down to the top of this post. You won't have an established point of view of your own.

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Jane, my apologies if this may come across strong or anything, but I can sincerely assure that it's not anything like that. I'm not trying to prove you wrong, but simply giving attention to things that come across a bit blurred. I will not try to convince you anymore as it’s your choice. I believe I’ve said all I’ve to say and clarified them in my own points.

I enjoyed this discussion.

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