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Old 04-03-2006, 05:18 PM   9/11, the movie(s). Is it too soon? Post #1
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9/11, the movie(s). Is it too soon?

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"United 93" is the first feature film to deal explicitly with the events of September 11, 2001, and is certain to ignite an emotional debate before and after it opens on April 28. Is it too soon? Should the film have been made at all? More to the point, will anyone want to see it? Other 9/11 projects are on the way as the fifth anniversary of the attacks approaches, most notably Oliver Stone's "World Trade Center," starring Nicolas Cage, opening Aug. 9. But as the harbinger, "United 93" will take most of the heat, whether it deserves it or not.
I'm not sure what to think. Any reservations I have about the movie being released are mitigated by how the writer/director of the movie only created it after securing the blessings of the families of those killed on the flight. Not only did they give him permission, but it was unanimous among them. To not have a handful of reluctant families shy away from cinematizing something so personal and tragic is pretty amazing, I think. And out of anyone who would possibly have a say in whether or not the film should be released, it's them.

The filmmakers have also appeared to handle the event delicately and methodically, going so far as to ask the families what their loved ones were wearing the day they boarded the plane. It seems like they really took care to depict the event with as much class as they could. In addition, Universal is donating 10% of their weekend opening gross to the Flight 93 National Memorial Fund. Personally, I think it should be 10% of their gross period, but it's still a gesture of goodwill I suppose.

It's the other 9/11 movies in the pipeline that I'm more worried about. Nicholas Cage? I just can't see someone like him--whose characters most often involve either blowing things up, shooting people, or driving fast cars--being able to strip away his sort of "hero" persona and portray himself as an everyday American on that day. It's this slant towards "Hollywoodizing" the movies that I'm most concerned about.

The trailer for United 93 is available here. It's very chilling.
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Old 04-03-2006, 05:26 PM   9/11, the movie(s). Is it too soon? Post #2
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I started a thread last year about the Oliver Stone movie.

http://evboard.com/showthread.php?t=...t=oliver+stone

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It's the other 9/11 movies in the pipeline that I'm more worried about. Nicholas Cage? I just can't see someone like him--whose characters most often involve either blowing things up, shooting people, or driving fast cars--being able to strip away his sort of "hero" persona and portray himself as an everyday American on that day. It's this slant towards "Hollywoodizing" the movies that I'm most concerned about.
I'm not to concerned about Nick Cage being in the movie. He is a superb actor. I'm more concerned about Oliver Stone directing.

As for "Flight 93", if the victims families have given the blessing to go ahead with it, I have no reservations.

I wonder If Oliver Stone did the same thing. Somehow I doubt it though..
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Old 04-03-2006, 05:45 PM   9/11, the movie(s). Is it too soon? Post #3
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I think newsweek is on crack, there are multiple other detailed 9/11 movies.

[Try the one that was actually filmed on 9/11 and the one that was on history or whatever it was.]
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Old 04-03-2006, 06:49 PM   9/11, the movie(s). Is it too soon? Post #4
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Fahrenheit? Thats more like a documentary.

Typically... american to make a movie like this. It always happens on "catastrophy" movies and it always feels like propaganda. Sigh.

Of course it should be allowed to make, and why would it be too soon? Years have passed... I wouldn't even mind if it was made on the day after this happened.

The question is not whether it should be allowed or not, the question is if we want to see it.
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Old 04-03-2006, 06:53 PM   9/11, the movie(s). Is it too soon? Post #5
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I think newsweek is on crack, there are multiple other detailed 9/11 movies.
Yea, but no major motion pictures.

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Fahrenheit? Thats more like a documentary.
hahahaha @ 'documentary'
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Old 04-03-2006, 07:05 PM   9/11, the movie(s). Is it too soon? Post #6
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Personally, I think that it's in bad taste to make movies about September 11. I would prefer it if no movies were made at all...however, this does seem to be made with great consideration to the people and their families. I like that they made sure all the families were okay with it. However, I'm still uncomfortable with it, and any 9/11 movie.

I sincerely hope that they don't Hollywoodize/propagandize the films. That would destroy any credibility they might have whatsoever, and would just be classless.
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Old 04-03-2006, 07:12 PM   9/11, the movie(s). Is it too soon? Post #7
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hahahaha @ 'documentary'
What word would you find fitting then?
I'm not so sure what's so funny, Moore would probably look upon it as a documentary.
It does not mean the movie can't be biased in another persons point of view.
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Old 04-03-2006, 07:17 PM   9/11, the movie(s). Is it too soon? Post #8
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Though it may seem tacky for a movie to be made, no matter what people will say "It's too soon." even if it's twenty years later. It's a hard topic to discuss, let alone watch, but if done tastefully and with purpose, I can see it having merit. I agree that the fact all of the family members gave permission and consented to the movie is a good sign. Personally being from NY, September 11th had a big impact. My neighbor across the street worked on the 4th floor of one of the towers and was able to get out. Tens of families in Rockville Centre, where my Aunt and Uncle live and a good family friend, lost people in the attacks. It's touched a lot of people and everyone is going to be worried about the portrayal of it all.

Though I doubt I'll go see it in a theatre or public setting, I would rent it to watch at home.

Hundreds of movies have been made regarding human tragedies and acts of violence. Wars, mass murders, genocide, and terrorism. People are just sensitive because this happened 5 years ago and on our own soil. Don't get me wrong, they have a right to be sensitive, but the director and others involved in the project also have the right to make the movie. If you feel it is too soon, don't watch it. Watch when you believe it's appropriate, or don't watch it at all.
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Old 04-03-2006, 08:03 PM   9/11, the movie(s). Is it too soon? Post #9
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Personally, I think that it's in bad taste to make movies about September 11. I would prefer it if no movies were made at all...however, this does seem to be made with great consideration to the people and their families. I like that they made sure all the families were okay with it. However, I'm still uncomfortable with it, and any 9/11 movie.
I agree with you. It seems wrong to make a major motion picture about 9/11. I suppose some would say that it is no different than Pearl Harbor though. It's awesome that they did use consideration for the people and their families. I can't imagine being one of them and then just randomly learning that Hollywood was making a film about it. I too am uncomfortable with any of the 9/11 movies that will no doubt be coming out. Hopefully future directors who are wanting to and have started to make a movie about this will have as much respect and consideration of the families as this director did.
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Old 04-03-2006, 08:36 PM   9/11, the movie(s). Is it too soon? Post #10
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What word would you find fitting then?
I'm not so sure what's so funny, Moore would probably look upon it as a documentary.
It does not mean the movie can't be biased in another persons point of view.
Half-truthed bullshit.
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