That's what I thought, until she told me this morning that she had called her doctor again, and had again been told not to take them. Apparently, on the slip of paper that comes with them, a side effect of this medication is 'suicidal thoughts'.
I really didn't know how to answer that one, and thought there is no point in prescribing medication when all it will do is make the problem worse.

Does anyone know if anti depressants actually cause suicidal thoughts? I think poor Cazb is a little confused about what to do, and I'd like to help her out more than I have been.

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there has been a lot of media attention about paxil and a few2 other anti depressants causing suicidal thoughts, as well a a few "ambulance chaser" lawer ads about it as well. perhaps what the doctor was doing was actually giving the (newly) legaly required warning about suidical thoughs that is now mandated when paxil is prescribed, and (s)he interpreted it is as the doctor saying"dont take them" rather than the intended "if you take them and experience suicidal thoughts like other paitents sometimes, in rare cases have, stop taking it and let me know immediatly"

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^ Perhaps she has been given that type of medication, but she seems adamant that she was told, by her doctor - twice - not to take the medication which he prescribed her.

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ok from education, experience (practical nursing studies) and reading.
i would look at an antidepressant but still continue on you with counselling even if you decide to see another counsellor. neither counselling or medication is going to work for everyone, it is often best when combined together, as medication will control serotonin levels and counselling will help you learn to develop coping stratergies and recognise signs.
i have feeling kylie that the doctor would not have prescribed her drugs and then said oh no don't take them. i t is much more likely to be a warning say be careful as depression does lead to sucide thoughts and its is mentioned in all my text books about antidepressives that caution needs to be taken with the patient as they could be suicidal. the drugs do not cause suicidal ideation.

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the meds are made to sale ,and all it's about the business.Once i went to some therapy,and the doctor(female)told me that i had depression,that was when i was 13,now i'm 20 soon to 21,and really the counsel was that i had to take a long therapy but i never went.I prefer to SOBER and also i believe in the brain power so i'm trying to handle this the best i can,though the depression is still with me and will be 'til my death.

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^ So you choose to have the 'think positive' attitude, rather than take medication?

That's good, I managed that way, (after I went of my meds) although it doesn't work for everyone.

Shannon thanks for the info - I'll let Cazb know as soon I hear from her again.

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Take the meds but see a therapist. Sometimes you need the meds just to get to a place where you can deal with the therapy.

Your doc is probably a general practitioner, not a psychiatrist and doesn't have a lot of experience with the drugs. There have been instances of suicidal thoughts with some antidepressants but there's no evidence that the drugs caused them and the benefits outweigh the risk by a long shot. Just monitor yourself or have someone help. If it doesn't happen in the first few weeks it probably won't. And it's rare - it's the exception not the rule. If you're in doubt go to a psychiatrist - that's what they do - meds. And they don't usually do therapy so don't look for help from them there.

I'm sorry but Crysalis is just uninformed and clearly not ready to deal with her own illness. She want's to keep her depression that's fine. Her choice. But clearly not yours so ignore her.

Remember depression is highly individual. For some people it lasts a few months or years but don't feel like you failed if yours goes longer. It's just the way it is sometimes. But therapy works. Therapy with medication sometimes works better. But find a therapist that works for you. If it's not working move on. You don't owe them anything - they work for you not the other way around. It may be seem overwhelming but it's better than the alternative.

Source: Been dealing with my wife's depression for over 15 years.

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Hey guys, havnt been online for awhile, in this time tho ive been referred by my doctor to some clinic that told me if i wanted to see a councillor i have to wait 9-12 months and then itd be for 8 weeks. This seems a ridiculous amount of time. I stopped taking the antidepressants as they were fucking my head up beyond belief and ive felt better since not taking them but now im just so stuck it just seems like no one will help me or do anything at all or there isnt anything to do no one will give me a straight answer and i dont know how to find out. Its seeming more and more like there isnt any help out there so im not going to be able to get better ever I dont understand why im being made to live with this when ive tried to get help.

Honestly, not all doctors are great doctors and not all doctors key into your problems like they should. Even further, medication is a fickle thing. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes you just need to switch to a different brand/prescription. It's a big puzzle to solve and you just need to be patient until you find someone that's willing to take the time to help you. Don't let one bad experience make you think that there isn't help out there, because help is everywhere... it just won't fall into your lap; you have to work to get it and work even harder to get better.

Sometimes you won't get a quick solution or an easy answer, that's just how things work in the medical field.

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I was diagnosed with depression early on in life, when I was about 12. Before then my parents thought I had ADHD and had me on medication since I was about 10. I do not have ADHD even though my dad is still convinced that I do. Anyway I've been on medication since I was 12 for depression and they just recently got me on the right meds. Was it worth trying? Yes it was. I'm a much happier person then I was 6 years ago.

Now, I've been diagnosed with boarderline personality disorder and am on two medications for it, Zoloft and Zyprexa. Zoloft helps with depression and mania and Zyprexa is an anti-psychotic although I couldn't tell you what it helps with it really does help. I am on a WAY higher dose of Zoloft then most people with general depression get, but it's been the one constant medication in my life. I started taking it when I was 12, more then 10 years ago and it's helped me A LOT.

I have been through MANY therapists, enough to know that if you don't like the one you are seeing then it's better to find another one. I've had to tell three different therapists that they weren't working out and I wanted another one. One of my therapists I hated so much I actually cussed her out on several occasions, but that's only because my parents were FORCING me to go to her and wouldn't let me find someone else, this was before I was 18.

My last therapist who was doing wonders for me, quit her job due to personal reasons and now I'm on to my next therapist. I like her but she's a little too logical for me LoL. A good test to see if you are getting along with your therapist is think about if you can't wait to see them on a weekly/monthly basis. If you look forward to it then you probably have a good therapist, at least that's how I've judged it.

I guess I was sort of lucky because each time I tried a new medication I was in the hospital for suicidal behavior and they switched meds in there so I was closely monitored. Just know that I was in the hospital cause I signed myself in, not because I was admitted invoulentarily.

Anyway I hope I helped in some small way. We all have problems and there is absolutely no shame in asking for a little help.

~Monica

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