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Old 08-25-2005, 12:42 PM   Evanescence's Origin Post #41
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Hey TatersMomma,

Your artwork is the same but it looks like it isn't lined up correctly. The bottom and the top cresents look a far from the edge of the CD. Also, the point where the 'E' swoops down to form a cresent, that look to much to the center of the CD. In saying that, the 'E' on Evanescence would be almost off the CD with the way the original art work would lay on the CD.

IMPORTANT: I may be wrong if the scan of the CD didn't pick up the edge or the inner core of the CD. Check the actual CD and see if it looks like your scan.... If may be an original, but my concern is no IFPI number.

You also don't have an IFPI number. If I am not mistaken, all originals have that IFPI number.

That number is stamped by a legitimate company who is a member of IFPI, thus making the production original.

I am not wanting to burst any bubbles here but that is what I have found in my research.

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Old 08-25-2005, 12:57 PM   Evanescence's Origin Post #42
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You do know it's fake, right?

EDIT: Just for future reference...
If your origin looks like this:
It's FAKE

If your Origin looks like this:
Front:
Back:
It might be real.

Also, would someone like to post a pic of their Origin from Amazon? I've never even seen a real one on there =/ I'm just curious.
I think you thought I was looking at this one.

I was looking here.

Since most of you guys seem to be the experts, we'll see if it has the authentic serial number and an IFPI number, then we'll know if it's real...
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:04 PM   Evanescence's Origin Post #43
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I have seen several pictures of the serial number and even though the number is the same, the font style is different than mine. It seems that all originals from BigWig would have the same font style...

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Old 08-25-2005, 01:46 PM   Evanescence's Origin Post #44
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Hey TatersMomma,

Your artwork is the same but it looks like it isn't lined up correctly. The bottom and the top cresents look a far from the edge of the CD. Also, the point where the 'E' swoops down to form a cresent, that look to much to the center of the CD. In saying that, the 'E' on Evanescence would be almost off the CD with the way the original art work would lay on the CD.

IMPORTANT: I may be wrong if the scan of the CD didn't pick up the edge or the inner core of the CD. Check the actual CD and see if it looks like your scan.... If may be an original, but my concern is no IFPI number.

You also don't have an IFPI number. If I am not mistaken, all originals have that IFPI number.

That number is stamped by a legitimate company who is a member of IFPI, thus making the production original.

I am not wanting to burst any bubbles here but that is what I have found in my research.
reason it wasn't lined up correctly is because i had to splice the pages together because my scanner won't scan the whole pages. so some is offset somewhat.

CRT BWE0002 x0A21C is the number around the inner ring of the CD. as far as ifpi, i'm not sure what the heck that is. since bigwig wasn't a member of ifpi. according to the website listed.

and well if it's not a real one. oh well. only spent 20 bucks on it. but it has the serial number. which was all i was told to look for when i was asking people on here about it.
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Old 08-25-2005, 04:02 PM   Evanescence's Origin Post #45
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I have seen several pictures of the serial number and even though the number is the same, the font style is different than mine. It seems that all originals from BigWig would have the same font style...
It has always been speculated that Brad had produced more copies than the 2500 originals when his stock was running low. Perhaps these are some of the extra copies?
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Old 08-25-2005, 08:04 PM   Evanescence's Origin Post #46
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It has always been speculated that Brad had produced more copies than the 2500 originals when his stock was running low. Perhaps these are some of the extra copies?
That could be....I was under the impression that there were only 1000 from the original press and then the additional 1500 were made later and then more were pressed.

Tatersmom, I am not sure if BigWig is still a member, but the copy of Origin I have has an IFPI number.

Nonetheless, you have a copy of it and it has the serial number so that means that it is more of an original than the ones that have a compelety different serial number. They are still collectors items. Who knows maybe more so due to the hype.
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:03 AM   Evanescence's Origin Post #47
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I just got my "Origin" CD about a week ago. Ordered it off of Ebay. Only bout it $22 But reading through here, I noticed that people are saying that if it has a Serial number on the inner ring of the disc, it is a real copy, more than likely anyway. Well, mine only has "ES" on the inner Ring... So my guess is mine is not an Original copy, but just another duplicated copy that looks exactly alike?
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Old 08-26-2005, 08:11 AM   Evanescence's Origin Post #48
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I just got my "Origin" CD about a week ago. Ordered it off of Ebay. Only bout it $22 But reading through here, I noticed that people are saying that if it has a Serial number on the inner ring of the disc, it is a real copy, more than likely anyway. Well, mine only has "ES" on the inner Ring... So my guess is mine is not an Original copy, but just another duplicated copy that looks exactly alike?
I'm guessing the "E" is "ES" stands for Epic, which is the record company name on the fake Origin. Does yours have 11 tracks?

You can go here and scroll down to Origin for more details.
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:53 PM   Evanescence's Origin Post #49
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Maybe I can help. I've talked to Brad Caviness about this before. First off though, you guys shouldn't be posting the real serial numbers and IFPI numbers. That just gives the people making fakes more ways to make it real. There are plenty of legite "looking" copies. Plenty of people are buying copies of Origin that appear to be real. The people making them even put the correct serial number on the disc. However, a real one would definitely have an IFPI number on it. Brad said the originals would. He doesn't however, give out those numbers due to the very real looking fakes. Honestly, I wouldn't trust any Origin cd that claims to be real unless you buy it from Brad, and he's all out. 99% of the time the Origin cd is a fake, even if it says it's the BigWig version, has 11 tracks, has the track 0, and the serial number. Don't waste your money on something that is most likely a fake. Many people are starting to realize this, hence why you can often find copies for under $50.00. Just be safe and save money by downloading it. You can even find websites that have the official artwork, so you can print it up and make yourself a booklet. I used to have an original, but it got ruined. Was I going to pay someone for a potential fake? No, I downloaded the songs and printed up the booklet on photopaper. I got the whole booklet printed off the net. This satisfies me just fine, considering most out there are extremely well done cd-r's anyways. Anyways, remember, no IFPI number equals a definite fake, regardless if the serial number matches. Hope this helps.
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I'm guessing the "E" is "ES" stands for Epic, which is the record company name on the fake Origin. Does yours have 11 tracks?

You can go here and scroll down to Origin for more details.
Yes, it does have 11 tracks. And this hidden "0" track, don't know nothing about this. I'm not saying it has the hidden track you guys were mentioning in here. Just saying I don't know nothing about it.
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