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Old 11-24-2007, 07:39 PM   Gay rights Post #1
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you with my comments if I did. But anyway, I'm not specifically making this thread an argument about gay rights. I was thinking of creating a thread about that, but this is only about politics regarding the issue. Not the actual goings-on of gay rights.
I'm always rather curious to hear the defence of "anti-homosexuality", since the position really is quite foreign to me. Hence, I create this thread so that you might explain it further (since nobody wants to derail the other thread).
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:54 PM   Gay rights Post #2
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I am a very firm believer that Gay's should have all the same rights and considerations as straight people. Love is love and it shouldn't matter. It disgusts me that Our government refuses to allow them to be married. Why not? Because of religion. Whatever......You can believe what you want but don't hold others down just because they are different. End of rant/

(please don't start attacking me if you are overly religious, I will not respond nicely)
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:02 PM   Gay rights Post #3
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I don't believe that they should be able to adopt children. aside from that, they deserve all the rights of heterosexuals in my opinion.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:45 AM   Gay rights Post #4
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I don't believe that they should be able to adopt children. aside from that, they deserve all the rights of heterosexuals in my opinion.
And why exactly is that? Do you think they'd be unable to care for the child or that other people would judge their child? If its the latter, does that mean couples that associate with different religions like Paganism have that right taken away because their child would also be judged? I'm curious.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:47 AM   Gay rights Post #5
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I am a very firm believer that Gay's should have all the same rights and considerations as straight people. Love is love and it shouldn't matter. It disgusts me that Our government refuses to allow them to be married. Why not? Because of religion. Whatever......You can believe what you want but don't hold others down just because they are different. End of rant/

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I agree with you 100%!!!
I think we are all humans, and we all deserve to be happy!
It shouldn't matter all our different prefrences, I think we All have rights, and we don't deserve to be judged becuase of what sex we perfer to be with.
I think people who are gay, have Every right to raise a family!! The children will be just as well taken care of, and loved as anyone else with kids!!
It doesn't make any of us a bad person, and being different is always awesome!! It never changes us as people in the inside!

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Old 11-25-2007, 12:49 AM   Gay rights Post #6
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I don't believe that they should be able to adopt children.
I am also quite curious why you think this.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:58 AM   Gay rights Post #7
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I don't believe that they should be able to adopt children. aside from that, they deserve all the rights of heterosexuals in my opinion.
I'd also like an explanation. If you are going to talk about their fitness to be parents, please provide your sources.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:23 AM   Gay rights Post #8
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When i think hard about it, I find myself asking, Is homosexuality something that is born into us, or is it a choice that we make. To be honest, I think its born into us, but if not, I frankly would not like it instilled into a child. Lets face it, if homosexuality is a choice, worse case scenario we could find ourselves extinct!
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:30 AM   Gay rights Post #9
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So wouldnt that theory work for many other aspects of people's lives?

For example, I'm Pagan, my boyfriend's Pagan, and we decide get married. Its our choice to not go to Church and live a Christian lifestyle, and we instill in our children the idea of the Goddess and the God, Casting circles, etc, as well as teaching them good morals and values. Would that be something to consider if we decided to adopt? Like, would you disagree with an adoption agency because of our lifestyle, even though we can provide a caring and loving home for the child?

What I'm getting at is, I dont think it should matter what lifestyle two people live in when adopting children. Shouldnt the first and foremost priority be the child's welfare? Who's to say that a Gay couple couldnt raise a child to be as normal as every other kid?

I can see what you're trying to get at, but it doesn't make sense if in the end, the most important thing is whether the child is in a loving family or not.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:35 AM   Gay rights Post #10
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When i think hard about it, I find myself asking, Is homosexuality something that is born into us, or is it a choice that we make. To be honest, I think its born into us, but if not, I frankly would not like it instilled into a child. Lets face it, if homosexuality is a choice, worse case scenario we could find ourselves extinct!
Thinking along those terms, wouldn't it work both ways? For instance, someone who's gay but was raised under two heterosexual parents. That isn't enough to change someone's sexual preference, and I also don't believe it would be enough to change a heterosexual's preference if they had two gay parents.

What do you think of a single gay person adopting? What about insemination? What about a child from a previous relationship, eventually being raised by gay parents? Should that child be taken away solely for that reason?
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