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Old 05-08-2007, 05:48 PM   #201 (permalink)
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Well... I have to tell that I met all the band last month in Argentina. It was very special because no-one could met them here the way I did besides me and 4 of my friends... and when I met them everything seemed so cool. John and all the guys were joking around and dancing rap together, they were laughing. Amy was the sweetest person I met, everything seemed great, it didn't seem like there were troubles, or fights between them.
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Thank you for your well thought out argument, and I'm glad you were able to meet the band while Rocky and John were still members. In response to your statements, I too met Amy and the guys. I don't think many of us have had experiences where Amy was a total bitch. Bands have to fake it if they don't feel like seeing anyone and they have to treat fans a certain way. Could you imagine the repercussions if someone from a band went off on a fan?

I'm not judging Amy's character based on how she treats fans. Fans, in the eyes of celebrities are "lesser beings", at least to those who are egocentric. There aren't many humble souls out there. I was and always will be a fan of Dimebag Darrell (Guitar - Pantera) and to me, that is the quintessential image of someone who has had success and still respected fans and treated them as equals. No, I'm basing my feelings in terms of past actions and whether or not I like what I see and whether I can support someone who has acted a certain way towards those who are her peers.

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All four of them quit and ran... Macho men can't take it... they can't handle a strong and smart woman like Amy Lee ... btw yes John quit sometime ago that led to the decision to cut him. Even Shaun ran away ...

I'm sure most of the neohaters will ignore what I just said and you will continue with the small minded jibberish of Diva and the B word ...

Carry on
Ben, Will, Rocky, and John didn't quit and run like children. Don't try to make it seem that way. They might have decided to part with the band but I hardly think it has to do with the fact that it was too tough for them. And, I wouldn't bring Shaun into this. He didn't run, they broke up. Not to mention, whilst you are accusing quite a deal of people of being small minded, have you given thought to the fact that perhaps Amy has something to do with these splits. I always say that in each argument there are two sides, it's like a divorce, you can't blame just one side. And I am very conscious of the fact that both sides did play a role in each member leaving the band. However, I also know that Amy is the constant in this and I also know that I cannot go along with the way she choses to portray herself. She's not perfect, and she constantly plays the victim and makes the other party the fool or the vilain. She states that women should be strong, but strength comes from being yourself and overcoming obstacles without using people as stepping stones to do so.

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Old 05-08-2007, 05:55 PM   #202 (permalink)
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Hmm, just where do you get your information? John did not quit sometime ago,he was FIRED! Supposedly Rocky did quit back in Jan. but the jury is still out on that one too. My God as much as you are defending her, are you sure you aren't HER?? .
Strong? Taking all the credit for something you did not create alone and have no right to claim as soley yours is not my idea of strong, more like chicken shit.Smart, is she so smart? Define smart in this instance, please. Conniving, cut throat, ungrateful- so much closer to the definitions I woulda chose but hey to each his or HER own.

We are all entitled to our opinions here but you seem to be awfully convinced of her innocence.
I'm not Amy Lee; I'm just a fan that sees through all of the hate and emotion.

Rarely is someone fired for no good reason. I've fired people before and it was only for good reason. Btw, I was just reading Johnny Lecomp's Wiki page and it says he "checked out" of Evanescence in 2005 to work with some other guys - the future leaders of the world. If this is true, how can he say that he was working with Evanescence - maybe collecting a check for average strumming and typical cords (IMHO).

If he was fired for no good reason then he should file suit for damages. I wonder what his severance pay was - like $1 million dollars or more, probably.
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Btw, I was just reading Johnny Lecomp's Wiki page and it says he "checked out" of Evanescence in 2005 to work with some other guys - the future leaders of the world. If this is true, how can he say that he was working with Evanescence - maybe collecting a check for average strumming and typical cords (IMHO).
... read below.

And, John and Rocky were on extended vacation while Terry and Amy were writing TOD in 2005. So yeah, they had some time to kill.
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... read below.

And, John and Rocky were on extended vacation while Terry and Amy were writing TOD in 2005. So yeah, they had some time to kill.
Is there another EV board that is Amy Lee friendly?

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yeah... Evthreads.
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Btw, I was just reading Johnny Lecomp's Wiki page and it says he "checked out" of Evanescence in 2005 to work with some other guys - the future leaders of the world. If this is true, how can he say that he was working with Evanescence - maybe collecting a check for average strumming and typical cords (IMHO).
Yea, well, my HO is telling your HO to go fuck itself.

If John's guitar playing is mediocre, it's comparable to Amy's dime-a-dozen choirgirl vocals. I went to high school with people who could hit better high notes.

Either way, Amy wouldn't be even close to where she is today without John OR Rocky. And it says volumes about her character [or lack thereof] for shuffing him off like he's nothing.

Regardless of the talent issue, Amy still treated John like shit and THAT, my friend, is the point.
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maybe collecting a check for average strumming and typical cords (IMHO).
If you think John's playing with Ev was just average, maybe you should blame the person who wrote the songs.
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Wtf?

This was a very young band that was signed very quickly. All young bands are revolving doors where members are concerned and Evanescence appears to be no exception. Further, it was a band that, if we are all being honest, was never so much a BAND as more of a partnered solo act between Ben Moody and Amy Lee. It actually seemed to function something more along the lines of a NIN with hired guns to play already written songs. It was a mistake on Ms. Lee's part, in my opinion, to ever attempt to tout the band as a fully formed - co-writing band.

However, Ms. Lee appears to have a burgeoning list of enemies that were once intimate friends and it does not bode well on her incessant attempts to insist on her role as victim to the media and in her own songs.

I find myself in a place of huge compassion for John LeCompt who sacrificed a lot of time with his wife and children to be more or less a studio musician for Amy Lee's band and then only to be treated unjustly in the end.

I find it all very strange and self-serving.
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I'm not Amy Lee; I'm just a fan that sees through all of the hate and emotion.

Rarely is someone fired for no good reason. I've fired people before and it was only for good reason. Btw, I was just reading Johnny Lecomp's Wiki page and it says he "checked out" of Evanescence in 2005 to work with some other guys - the future leaders of the world. If this is true, how can he say that he was working with Evanescence - maybe collecting a check for average strumming and typical cords (IMHO).

If he was fired for no good reason then he should file suit for damages. I wonder what his severance pay was - like $1 million dollars or more, probably.
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? At all?
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