Spring training is right around the corner(March 2nd), and that means April isn't far behind!!

Is it me or did this off-season just fly by? Anyway, that's a good thing, I'm really looking forward to the season and having a healthy Barry Bonds play for the Giants!!

Also, is anyone planning on watching the World Baseball Classic? I believe it's starts in early March. I'm kinda looking forward to it, i think it might be fun. GO USA!!

and viva la baseball!!!!

Mets tickets go onsale in 2 weeks. There is a home-game on Nick's 30th birthday, which is also on a Saturday, so I am going to get tickets for his entire family and friends. Screw if they are Yankees fans....they are coming! Won't kill them.

My mom, Nana, Tia Lina, and some people that she knows all got together and bought Giants season tickets. If I don't get to get to go to at least ONE game this season I'll be mad.

And yes, it does seem like the off-season flew by us.

We all know the Jays are going to win the World Series this year. The rest of the season is just a warm up for it.



:D

We all know the Jays are going to win the World Series this year. The rest of the season is just a warm up for it.



:D
The funny thing is, you could of said that before the last season about the White Sox and I would of told you you'e crazy. :p So who knows!

But on a serious note. It's actually the Giants turn. :) Sorry.
Barry is gonna retire as a World Series champion this year!

Vote for Pedro *runs off in gangly fashion*

Shapeshiifter,

How 'bout the Bonds retirement news?

I think it's Barry just being Barry. :p
I seriously would of been surprised if he didnt retire after this season. Although, he commented on his comments he made earlier today and said something about him being mis-quoted and that he actually will play more if his body permits it. I'm not sure, it's like 1:00 in the morning and I'm half asleep.
Or maybe he's just fuckin with the media. :p

I'm excited for the baseball season to start. My favorite sport coming up. Hell yeah. Hopefully the Cubs this year will be a little better. They always tend to blow something.. :rolleyes:

I think I'm going to hate the World Baseball Classic...because then I'm going to have to root for Derek Jeter....*vomits* *sigh*

God, I hate the Yankees.

I think I'm going to hate the World Baseball Classic...because then I'm going to have to root for Derek Jeter....*vomits* *sigh*

God, I hate the Yankees.

I totally agree with you there.

I hope this season the Cubs don't suck ass like they seem to enjoy doing. Especially after they get your hopes up.:( Damn Cubs...

I'm so excited, I can't wait! My girl friend isn't all that into sports like I am...heh heh heh...I can't wait to sit down and make her watch it with me...hehehe :D

Her half brother is related to one of the players from the Yankee's :D

Wow. So Barry definitely showed a different side of him yesterday at Spring training. He dressed up as Paula Abdul for "Giants" Idol.

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2006/02/28/oQXug5Bg.jpg

You can watch video at the link below. Shit is hilarious!!!


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2348706

Dude, that picture....LOL

Still not as ugly as Jamie Foxx's "Wanda." :D

Yeah dude, Bonds freaked me out with that. I had to rub my eyes for about five minutes to make sure I wasn't having a flashback...ftw.

Ok so yeah, Mike Piazza playing for the dang Padres. Wow. The End Times are near. Seriously. What, he can't play for the Braves??!?! That would have been poetic. At least he's not wearing pin stripes. Jesus wept.

So yeah I expect FINALLY for the Braves to offically suck ass this year. As a fan I've been preparing for this for awhile. It's March for crying out loud and they have no for sure closer.

The BRAVES in MARCH have no closer.

Yeah.

Fun times ahead.

Mets win the home opener!!!!

Nady went 4 for 4. Let's hope this is a sign of things to come, not just opening-day luck!

Woohoo!

Yayayayayay! Yanks win their home opener too...perhaps there will a Subway Series this year? Both the Mets and the Yanks look in pretty good shape, even though only one game has been played.

*dodges any objects that might get thrown at me by Yankee haters*

Woot Woot. Them Cubs kicked some major arse, yesterday for opening day.

Woot Woot. Them Cubs kicked some major arse, yesterday for opening day.

Hell yeah! Now they just need to play like that for the rest of the year, with slightly better pitching.:D

GAH! The Giants last game was Sunday. We had an off day Monday, then the next 2 games were rained out!! And I'm in California damnit! And it's fucking APRIL!! :mad:

They're about to start a double header right now with the Stro's, and the weather is good.

STAY AWAY RAIN!! I WANNA WATCH THE GIANTS!

Both Mets and Yanks kicked major ass today!!!!

Saturday's Mets game was rained out, with a double-header scheduled for July 8th. July 8th is the game I have tickets for, so WOO HOO, double header for me!

July 8th is my b-day. :D

July 8th is my b-day. :D

My boyfriend's as well!!! That's why I have tickets. He thinks it is just for the 2 of us, but I got tickets for his family and friends. In total there will be 17 of us. Should be a good surprise, since he forbid me to throw him a surprise party.

haha, funny shit. July 8th b-days rock. :D


Woot, the G-Men won the first of the double header! Matt Morris is 2-0 now.

::starts a BEAT LA!! chant::

GO GIANTS!

::starts a BEAT LA!! chant::

GO GIANTS!
The fucking game is in a rain delay right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

GAH!!!! *curses the rain*

10 and 2...best record in baseball...5 games ahead in the National League East.

I don't think you can ask for a better team right now. I'm hoping they keep the momentum up...I don't remember seeing the last time Shea Stadium was this hyped at the BEGINNING of the season.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/buggo333/METS.jpg

Tee Hee.

Yes, I am VERY psyched about this season.

Hey Shapeshifter,

Hows about you and I team up, find the umps and Jose Mesa, and beat their asses?

Tyler WALKer has been designated for assignment...YES!!!!!!

Go Angels! I believe they have beat the A's in back to back games:D

Hey Shapeshifter,

Hows about you and I team up, find the umps and Jose Mesa, and beat their asses?

Tyler WALKer has been designated for assignment...YES!!!!!!
Jose Mesa is a duesch.

And good riddance Walker!!


@ ladyjo & Chris: Looks like your Mets have a date with my Giants at 24 Willie Mays Plaza tonight. Don't be late. :p

ShapeShifter, PLEASE tell me you're not throwing in the towel yet. It seems that a lot of people on the official G-men board are. PLEASE DON'T LEAVE ME ALL ALONE! (Am I in denial, or just trying to be optimistic?...)

So, 713 today...I wish I could be more excited, but it makes hard when we're in last place.

I hope Mo Alou isn't out for TOO long.

Lowry's starts tomorrow YES!

GO GIANTS!

::still has hope::

As a Brewers fan, I definitely see promise in my team, but we're so up and down it can get kind of frustrating. lol

We're a lot better than we were 3, 2, and even 1 year ago, though.

All time home run list:

Hank Arron - 755
Barry Bonds - 714
Babe Ruth - 714

GO GIANTS!

I never thought I'd be thanking the Yankees for anything but the more they beat the Mets the easier it'll be for the Braves now that they're .500.

I'm still getting used to a hitting team rather that a pitching one.

Freakin' Mets...geez.

All we need is two winning series back to back and things could be totally different for the rest for the summer.

I have full confidence in your Braves, Craig. They always seem to get it done somehow. I do agree with you though, about them being a hitting team rather than a pitching team. It's kinda like the bizzaro world. :p

On Bonds tying The Babe: It would of been nice for him to do it in Frisco, but doing it in Oakland is the next best place he could do it in. He got a very good reception and even did a curtain call and got an even bigger reception. Say what you will about the man, but 714 homeruns is whole shitload of knocks.

I have full confidence in your Braves, Craig. They always seem to get it done somehow. I do agree with you though, about them being a hitting team rather than a pitching team. It's kinda like the bizzaro world. :p

On Bonds tying The Babe: It would of been nice for him to do it in Frisco, but doing it in Oakland is the next best place he could do it in. He got a very good reception and even did a curtain call and got an even bigger reception. Say what you will about the man, but 714 homeruns is whole shitload of knocks.

I didn't see it, but I heard that during the Yankees and Mets game when it actually happened, there was nothing but booing.

I'm really liking how the interleague play is really coming into play between the Yanks-Mets and Boston-Philly. It's like watching the playoffs where one team has to keep track of another.

I didn't see it, but I heard that during the Yankees and Mets game when it actually happened, there was nothing but booing.
um, no.

He was received very well.

ohhh wait, are you talking about the Yankee/Met fans started booing at their game when they found out? If so, that's not surprising. But put him in a Yankee/Met uni and they'll be on his jock. heh.


I'm really liking how the interleague play is really coming into play between the Yanks-Mets and Boston-Philly. It's like watching the playoffs where one team has to keep track of another.
I agree.

That Colorado/Toronto rivalry is really heating up!!! :p

I'm in the middle of watching one of the best games of the year.

Mets and Phillies going at it tooth and nail.

Phillies had a 4 run lead and a three run lead and blew it.

It is now tied going to the bottom of the 16th inning.

This Philly pitcher Ryan Madson has been amazing.

7 shutout innings in RELIEF!

You couldn't ask for a better game because both teams are fighting for first place in the NL East. Mets are currently up by 3 games, but Philly has been fighting to stay with them.

This is going to be one hell of a season series to watch especially with the history of Billy Wagner with the Phils.

And just like that, Carlos Beltran wins the game with a homerun!

Let's play two!

And just like that, Carlos Beltran wins the game with a homerun!


Wow. What a night it was. Yay Beltran!!

Kaz Matsui is a waste of a player. Every time he gets up to bat, he has a chance to fail. And he does every time.

Clemens has signed with the Astros.

When he is added to the major league roster, he'll get a one-year, $22 million contract -- actually, the contract would be worth $22,000,022 (Clemens' uniform number is 22). But because he won't be playing the full season, he'll receive a prorated percentage of that, which would come to about $12.25 million if he rejoins Houston in late June. The tentative goal is to have him start against the Minnesota Twins on June 22; if he's put on the big league roster that day, he would earn $12,632,307.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2464315&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

12 mill for a few months work. Not. Fucking. Bad.

The Twins make me want to cry. :(

Eff the rain in New York!!!!!!!! :mad:

Eff the rain in New York!!!!!!!! :mad:
i know. what the shit is up with that? ny sucks. pfft. it's fuckin georgeous in cali. :cool:

@jo&Chris: mets are going down. :]

@jo&Chris: mets are going down. :]

They did, but not without a fight.

We had the lead and blew it, then we tied it again, then we blew it again, then we tied it again and almost won it with Benitez fucking one up yet again.

But our bullpen is still not as strong as it could be and we wound up losing it in extras.

That Milledge kid is going to be a star.

Dear Armando Benitez:

I hate you. You make me want to vomit. I do not appreciate the fact that you cause me to suffer a hwart-attack every time you step onto the pitcher's mound. Would you please go far, far away never to be heard from again. A refund paid in full to the San Francisco Giants organization would be appreciated. Thank you.

Signed,



A fed up Giants fan

That Milledge kid is going to be a star.

Yeah, he got the lead out finally. I wanted to kill him last week.

I miss Nady. I hope he comes back soon.

kaz is good for nothing. I see him get up to the plate, and I'm like...here's comes the next out.

Reyes should be a spokesman for Tide. Something like "It take a lot of work to keep this uniform clean"

Is anyone interested in college baseball? I'm rooting for Cal State Fullerton(my school:D )they won the ncaa championship a couple years ago, but are losing right now to Missouri in the regionals.

so yeah, if you turn it on espn2, you'll see my school! *lamely jumps up and down*:rolleyes: :p

kaz is good for nothing. I see him get up to the plate, and I'm like...here's comes the next out.

Your boy got traded tonight.

He got traded to the Rockies for longtime Cardinal and veteran utility player Eli Marrero.

The Cubs record is currently 24-26, just ahead of the Pirates for worst team in the division. It's so totally our year. /sarcassm

Whee, looks like another year of waiting.:(

edit: Wood just got placed on the DL AGAIN!!!! F***!!! This is so frustraiting.

Your boy got traded tonight.

He got traded to the Rockies for longtime Cardinal and veteran utility player Eli Marrero.

Dude, I was jumping on the couch when I heard that!!!

Woohoo for sweeping Arizona! We have the second best record in MLB, with the best record in the National League.

So, seeing as we have these nifty little points again, whattya say we start betting on a real sport..*coughnotsoccercough*

Seeing as there's so many games on a day I think it would be pretty fun.

Anyone interested?

Sure, I'll make some friendly wagers. As long as we don't get too complicated with calculating odds and crap like that.

I always bet FOR the Mets. At the rate they're going, I'll win 2/3 of the time!

Edit: Ooooh, I have tickets for tomorrow Mets game. Chris Benson vs. Pedro Martinez. this should be an awesome pitcher's duel.

Maybe.... How do you go about doing that though?

Man, I hope the Diamondbacks can make it to the playoffs this year. They're only 3 games behind the first-place Dodgers in the NL West despite being 2 below .500.

Give it up for the New York Mets, the first team to make it into the 2006 Playoffs.

Top to bottom, the most complete team in Major League Baseball.

Jose Reyes: Only the second man ever to hit for the cycle and have a three homer game in the same season.

Paul LoDuca: I remember when he was a September callup for the Dodgers years back. I was watching a game in Shea saying "Who the hell is Paul LoDuca?" The very next pitch, he hits a home run. Coming back from bad press to have a damn good season.

David Wright: What else can you say. 24-110-.308

Carlos Beltran: M.V.P. 40 HRs coming off of a season in which he only hit 16. He also has 114 RBIs.

Carlos Delgado: 38 Homeruns. This is the Manny/Papi of 2006.

Shaun Green: The New Guy is paying off well for us so far. Sure, his best years are behind him statistically speaking, but he is doing exactly what Xavier Nady had been doing before he got traded. Stepped in when we needed him.

Roleplayers....Julio Franco...who knew, Jose Valentin, Endy Chavez, and Lastings Milledge

Starters
Glavine, Pedro, Trachsel, and El Duque~!

Darren Oliver stepped in whenever we needed him. At the beginning of the year, he was thinking about hanging it up.

Chad Bradford and Aaron Heilman...great set ups for Billy Wagner. Billy the Kid's still ringing 98 MPH.

This will be the team to beat this year. Let's Go Mets!

i'm predicting a subway world series bewteen the yanks and mets. i got the mets to win it all because i just hate the yanks!

giants ftl.

thank god for football and the upcoming hockey season.

oh yea, im going with the A's over the mets in the WS.

Give it up for the New York Mets, the first team to make it into the 2006 Playoffs.

Top to bottom, the most complete team in Major League Baseball.

Jose Reyes: Only the second man ever to hit for the cycle and have a three homer game in the same season.

Paul LoDuca: I remember when he was a September callup for the Dodgers years back. I was watching a game in Shea saying "Who the hell is Paul LoDuca?" The very next pitch, he hits a home run. Coming back from bad press to have a damn good season.

David Wright: What else can you say. 24-110-.308

Carlos Beltran: M.V.P. 40 HRs coming off of a season in which he only hit 16. He also has 114 RBIs.

Carlos Delgado: 38 Homeruns. This is the Manny/Papi of 2006.

Shaun Green: The New Guy is paying off well for us so far. Sure, his best years are behind him statistically speaking, but he is doing exactly what Xavier Nady had been doing before he got traded. Stepped in when we needed him.

Roleplayers....Julio Franco...who knew, Jose Valentin, Endy Chavez, and Lastings Milledge

Starters
Glavine, Pedro, Trachsel, and El Duque~!

Darren Oliver stepped in whenever we needed him. At the beginning of the year, he was thinking about hanging it up.

Chad Bradford and Aaron Heilman...great set ups for Billy Wagner. Billy the Kid's still ringing 98 MPH.

This will be the team to beat this year. Let's Go Mets!

That was so awesome last night. Big props to Omar Minaya for getting the team together, and Willie for whipping them into shape. You're right, from top to bottom they are a great team!!

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/1192/dwrightqp6.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7353/chamo2ad0.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7981/champ2sc4.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3225/champ3ap7.jpg

IAW TheLady. Never have I been so proud to be a Mets fan. :D Mets all the way, baybee!

AHHHHH!! Boy it sure does feel good to FINALLY be on the right side of NY. Lol!!

NEW YORK METS!!!
...the BEST team in NY :D:p

Everything the Mets have done this season has been so great, and, for once, they may actually be better than the Yankees. I'm not really a Mets fan, but I absolutely despise the Yankees, so I've got the Mets going all the way to the World Series where they will meet the Yankees and hopefully stomp on them. George Steinbrenner and Company have had way too many playoff appearances and have hogged the spotlight long enough in New York, so the Mets are long past due to knock them from their perch.

Those damn Athletics!:p well, hopefully dodgers will beat out the padres.

Those damn Athletics!:p well, hopefully dodgers will beat out the padres.

I hate to say it, but I don't think any of your wishes are going to come true. The Padres lead the Dodgers by 1 1/2 games in the NL West and I don't see them grabbing the wild card either because of how hot the Phillies have been and the fact that the season is down to its final week. Plus, the Athletics only need a win and an Angels loss to clinch the AL West. So, I guess you will have to wait until next year!

As much as I like Nomar (and I was born and raised in l.a. and am moving back there on tues!) I'm still behind the Padres before I'm behind the Dodgers. Weird, but ah well.
The Rev broke the record for most career saves tonight! WOOT!
As long as the Mets don't win it, I'll be happy. LOL. Although, I'll take the Mets over the Yankees anytime.

Both of my teams were crushed in this season, The Braves are done as my hometown Red Sox, that is sad for me. But well, a new world champion who could it be everyone but the Yanks please no. But I must confess that a new subway series would be amazing, imagine this Pedro Martinez vs. Randy Johnson in game 7, I know it is no Clemens vs. Piazza but come on, that should be good.

well my home town team the texas rangers just plain suck there never good no one is devested down here because they missed the playoffs we are all like what else is new? :rolleyes:

Mets fans sorry about the bad news that pedro martinez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2606427) will miss the playoffs i was rooting for the mets too. :(

But I must confess that a new subway series would be amazing, imagine this Pedro Martinez vs. Randy Johnson in game 7, I know it is no Clemens vs. Piazza but come on, that should be good.
to bad for the mets pedro will be out for the entire playoffs. looks like they should of tried to get zito @ the deadline.

if the astros win the central and make the playoffs they will be the team to beat in the national league. their pitching is ridiculous. Clemens/Oswalt/Petitte. OUCH.

imagine this Pedro Martinez vs. Randy Johnson in game 7, I know it is no Clemens vs. Piazza but come on, that should be good.O.o Clemens vs. PIAZZA huh? In-triss-ting.

O.o Clemens vs. PIAZZA huh? In-triss-ting.
i assume he was referring to this. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/2000/world_series/news/2000/10/22/piazza_clemens_ap/)

clemens and piazza can still end up facing off if the 'stros play the dodgers in the PO. i'm hoping the giants can end their(dodgers) playoff hopes this weekend though. it's gonna take a sweep to do it. i will be seriously fuckin' pissed if the dodgers celebrate a playoff berth on the giants field. :/

Yes, I did not know but Pedro is out for the season that is not good for the Mets, Glavine and El Duque are good but with Pedro there a 3 time Cyoung winner it almost a win game, I am Red Sox fan so I know what Pedro can do, true Barry Zito should have been traded but I understand the A´s determination to keep him for the Playoffs but come on I really do not think he is goin to sign with them as Soriano as well. True if the Astros somehow gets to the Playoffs those 3 can put them back into the world series like last year, once I heard in Post season Baseball the most important thing is Pitching, at first I was not a believer but yes you need Pitchers to win, ask that to Red Sox?

Yes, I did not know but Pedro is out for the season that is not good for the Mets, Glavine and El Duque are good but with Pedro there a 3 time Cyoung winner it almost a win game.
now el duque is questionable(calf) for his start in game 1. ouch. not good for the mets.


in other playoff news, the A's beat the twins! WOOT! zito out pitched santana. he went 8 innings giving up only 1 run. big frank went yard twice. the final score was 3-2.
losing game 1 with sanatana on the mound is a hard pill to swallow for the twins. the A's starting pitching is far better than the twins for the rest of the series. although, if there's a game 4 i'm sure santana will pitch on short rest.

so lets see if the A's can get past the first round this time. :rolleyes:

the first team has advanced to the 2nd round. the A's swept the twins with an 8-3 victory today.

so it's gonna be the A's vs the yankess/tigers in the ALCS.

i already know everybody will be talking about the A's being the underdog in the ALCS, no matter who they play.:rolleyes: watch out though, these kids can play.

^Boo.

We've had a run of bad luck vs. California sports teams. *h8s u awl*

to bad for you guys the twins didn't play the dodger or the padres LOL.

Pft. No wonder the Dodgers only won the Wild Card. :rolleyes:

but they did win it, and it's been a while since the dodgers were anything to talk about. even tho they're sucking against the mets, this is still a victory for los angeles because they made it to the play offs.
than again, los angeles doesn't care about sports teams until they start winning *coughlakerscough*

yanks are losin 6-0. rogers is dealing.




oh yea.


F U C K L A !

you're just a bitter GIANTS FAN KTHNXBAI

go back to the hockey thread, pfffffttttttt

<3

you're just a bitter GIANTS FAN KTHNXBAI

go back to the hockey thread, pfffffttttttt

<3
don't start with me woman.:P


ok so it looks like it could be the tigers and oaktown in the ALCS. i'll take oaktown in that matchup.

All praise to Jim Leyland...those Tigers are HUNGRY!

Fucking Zumaya is off the wall pitching 102-103mph :eek:

I think that if the Yankees lose, the team will start to dismantle.

i cant believe that the yanks lost, but the way kenny pitched, anyone would have lost. but theres always games4 and 5 for the yanks. i want a repeat of 2000, Yankees vs Mets.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-obit-buckoneil&prov=ap&type=lgns

R.I.P. Buck O'Neill.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-obit-buckoneil&prov=ap&type=lgns

R.I.P. Buck O'Neill.
that's a bummer. :/
he definitley lived a full life though. ninety fuckin' four, wow.



in other baseball news: lets go tigers!

Wow. What a blowout.

Bonderman = INFUCKINGCREDIBLE!

Wow. What a blowout.

Bonderman = INFUCKINGCREDIBLE!

Oh, I know. He was just fabulous. I have never seen any pitcher make the Yankees hitters look so bad than Boderman did today. For a 23-year-old pitcher, he certainly didn't look nervous against a great lineup with a great history. He pitched exactly the way any pitcher should pitch when trying to eliminate a team in the postseason. I didn't really care who got through the first round of the playoffs in any series going in as long as one of those teams that advanced was not the Yankees because I hate them so much. Now that they are no longer in, I hope the Tigers can go all the way to the World Series because they are so good and so young. I love any time that beats the Yankees in the postseason, especially when its early on and I love seeing those Yankees fans cry because they think the world ends any time their team loses. As Cfw828 said, I see a big firesale looming in the Bronx and I think A-Rod will be the first player to go in that sale. That is not going to bother me at all because the Yanks have so much money to spend and its about time they shared it with everybody else.

I think it would be nice to see a Detroit vs. Mets world series. I obviously want the Mets to go to the WS cause I'm a huge Mets fan:rolleyes:. And I'd like to see the Tigers in the final cause it's like a Cinderella story kinda. Just three years ago they lost 119 games and they totally turned it around.

Anyways...GO METS!!!

I think it would be nice to see a Detroit vs. Mets world series. I obviously want the Mets to go to the WS cause I'm a huge Mets fan:rolleyes:. And I'd like to see the Tigers in the final cause it's like a Cinderella story kinda. Just three years ago they lost 119 games and they totally turned it around.

Anyways...GO METS!!!

Well, the Mets are halfway to the World Series now because they just finished off the Dodgers with a 9-5 win. You also have predicted the same WS matchup that I have. The Mets are the only NL team that has a legit shot of making it to the Fall Classic and the Tigers have already proven so many people wrong with their victory over the Yanks, so it would only be fitting if they could go all the way to the biggest stage their is in baseball. I also have the Mets penciled in as my champion of the whole thing because I really would like to see ex-Diamondback Shawn Green win a ring and there is nothing I like more than seeing ex-Diamondbacks succeed with new teams.

A's ftw.

watch out for these young kids. they dont even know they're not supposed to be this far. they're just silly enough to win. just havin' fun.


oaktown.

yupyup, I must now vote for the last remaining cali team! w00t

it sucks that the yanks lost but im kinda happy for the tigers. they havent won in a long time and they deserve it. but im still going for new york.

I don't think Torre is really the guy to blame for the Yankees getting kicked after the first round again this year. I don't know why there is even the notion of Torre getting dropped in favor of Lou Pinella.

If you're going to blame somebody...blame Brian Ca$hman for getting those guys in the first place. Sheffield and Giambi didn't do anything and they should be in jeopardy. Rodriguez deserves blame again for not putting up the numbers. I wouldn't be surprised if they do make the playoffs next year and he gets benched.

They're kind of like the great Atlanta Braves teams of the 90s in that they got into the playoffs every year and won the East every year for 14 years. ONE world title. ONE.

At least they can say they've won some, but how long do you want to make the playoffs with one of the best records in the majors only to fail.

Bring it on, St. Louis.

The Yanks were still the division champs, had the best record in the AL, and tied with the Mets for best record in all of baseball. That's what you can attribute to Torre.

You can't blame Torre because the team folded the last 3 games. You need to look at the team's overall record, not just judge their performance in the post season.

Guys like Rodriguez and Giambi brought nothing to the team the past 4 games. That's their fault. All the coaching in the world from Torre wouldn't make them bust their ass.

But, Steinbrenner has a huge ego and wants the World Series. He pays millions for players, and when they can't perform, he wants to fire the manager because he thinks that will solve something. The players are under contract. What he doesn't realize is that every other AL ballclub has been beefing up their teams just so they can beat the Yanks. Well, beefing up their teams with the players Steinbrenner hasn't already swept up with bajillion dollar contracts no other team can afford.

So, just because you pay highest salaries for what seems to be the best players, does not guarantee you the World Series. It may get you to the top of the division, but there's no guarantee that when push comes to shove, you team can get it together for the 3 or 4 games when it really counts.

Let him fire Torre. And see how far he gets next year. No doubt in my mind Torre will get swept up by another team.

Man, did the NL West suck again this season. They may have gotten two teams, the Dodgers and Padres, to the playoffs this year, but both of those teams looked horrible in the NLDS. I can understand the Dodgers being swept out of the playoffs by the Mets because of that bullpen and that lineup and the fact that the Dodgers are too inconsistent, but, to me, to see the Padres get knocked out by the Cardinals in the first round was unacceptable. I mean, think about the records and how well the two teams were playing going into the playoffs. The Padres had the NL's second-best record at 88-74 and ended the season on an absolute roll, while the Cardinals were 83-78 and were struggling so badly that they nearly lost the NL Central crown to the Astros. Now, the Cards still captured that division title, but only because the Astros were beaten on the last day of the season. To me and to everybody else, the Cards struggles automatically made the Padres the favorites against them in the NLDS because SD had the long winning streak, more confidence and the home-field advantage. Boy, did all of that go by the wayside after the first two games. Now, granted, the pitching staff could not control Albert Pujols in those two games no matter how hard they tried, but the games were still in San Diego, so the Padres should have won at least one of the first two. Then, they go to St. Louis and they eek out a 3-1 win in Game 3 to stay alive behind a dominating pitching performance, but in Game 4, they crumbled after scoring 2 runs in the 1st inning off of Cy Young candidate Chris Carpenter and then make a bad error in the 6th inning that essentially led to their demise. Now they are out of the postseason in 4 games and, when they look back at this series, they can look back at two things: their offense, specifically their timely hitting, and their decision to pitch to Pujols in the first two games. The Padres as a team were 2-for-32 with runners in scoring position in the series (!). If you ask me, a team isn't going to go anywhere when they hit that terribly during the opportunities that they get to score runs. That essentially led to them scoring 6 runs for the entire series, which really overshadowed their great pitching performances in Games 2, 3, and 4. I give all the credit in the world to the Cardinals and I am real pleased to see that Tony La Russa has them back in the NLCs for a third straight year, but I really think they had too easy of a time getting through the Division Series because of the way the Padres played, and that is going to lead to them getting dominated by the Mets. If the Padres were in the second round, I don't believe it would have been as easy for the Mets to put away San Diego as it will be for them to put away St. Louis.

The Yanks were still the division champs, had the best record in the AL, and tied with the Mets for best record in all of baseball. That's what you can attribute to Torre.

You can't blame Torre because the team folded the last 3 games. You need to look at the team's overall record, not just judge their performance in the post season.

Guys like Rodriguez and Giambi brought nothing to the team the past 4 games. That's their fault. All the coaching in the world from Torre wouldn't make them bust their ass.

But, Steinbrenner has a huge ego and wants the World Series. He pays millions for players, and when they can't perform, he wants to fire the manager because he thinks that will solve something. The players are under contract. What he doesn't realize is that every other AL ballclub has been beefing up their teams just so they can beat the Yanks. Well, beefing up their teams with the players Steinbrenner hasn't already swept up with bajillion dollar contracts no other team can afford.

So, just because you pay highest salaries for what seems to be the best players, does not guarantee you the World Series. It may get you to the top of the division, but there's no guarantee that when push comes to shove, you team can get it together for the 3 or 4 games when it really counts.

Let him fire Torre. And see how far he gets next year. No doubt in my mind Torre will get swept up by another team.

After all of the time that it's taken, I'm starting to think that that won't happen. I remember last year when they were talking about firing him then.

Then again, I remember Steinbrenner from the 80s and pretty much firing...and hiring...and firing...and hiring again. Nothing really stuck until Showwalter before Torre came in.

First off, as a loyal Red Sox fan (and admitting that my boys sucked hardcore this year), I have to be spitefully pleased that it's the Tigers and not the Yankees that are going to the ALCS.

Second, I can't believe that Steinbrenner is thinking of firing Joe Torre. Red Sox fan or no, I'm forced to admit that the man is a class act. There are so few men like him in baseball, players, coaches, managers, etc, and to get rid of Torre would be a huge mistake. The Yankees may "suck", but they have some amazing players and personnel on their staff: Torre, Derek Jeter, Hideki Matsui, etc.

If Steinbrenner wants to cut some corners, he could start by getting rid of former MVP Alex Rodriguez, the most overhyped, overpaid, and under-performing player on the Yankees' team.

*Cheering for the Mets now that the season is continuing*

After all of the time that it's taken, I'm starting to think that that won't happen. I remember last year when they were talking about firing him then.

Then again, I remember Steinbrenner from the 80s and pretty much firing...and hiring...and firing...and hiring again. Nothing really stuck until Showwalter before Torre came in.

Second, I can't believe that Steinbrenner is thinking of firing Joe Torre. Red Sox fan or no, I'm forced to admit that the man is a class act. There are so few men like him in baseball, players, coaches, managers, etc, and to get rid of Torre would be a huge mistake. The Yankees may "suck", but they have some amazing players and personnel on their staff: Torre, Derek Jeter, Hideki Matsui, etc.

If Steinbrenner wants to cut some corners, he could start by getting rid of former MVP Alex Rodriguez, the most overhyped, overpaid, and under-performing player on the Yankees' team.

*Cheering for the Mets now that the season is continuing*

It never happened. Torre is coming back as Yankees manager next season. I guess Steinbrenner looked into the crystal ball and realized how much Torre has meant to the franchise over the last 11 years. Now, I'm not saying that I am going to start supporting the Yanks next year. In fact, I'll always hate them. I'm just saying that I've grown so used to seeing Torre at the helm for such a long period of time and seeing the Yankees have so much success under him that I couldn't possibly imagine the team havng anyone else as manager. It is exactly the same way I feel with seeing Bobby Cox at the helm for the Atlanta Braves for such a long period of time. He may have only won one World Series and has experienced numerous playoff failures in his tenure, but he has had some pretty darn good teams and players that helped him to compile those consecutive division titles. I couldn't ask for anything else out of a manager than that. I also couldn't possibly imagine any other Braves manager in the future having as much success as Cox has had.

Finally, you're right, Lexiapple, when you say that Steinbrenner should start his "rebuilding process" by getting rid of A-Rod. He is being paid way too much money to underacheive as badly as he is and only gets so much publicity and fame not because of his performance on the field but because he plays for the Yankees and in New York City, which is a place where any normal person walking on the street is going to be in the newspaper headlines and on the news because reporters in that city think everything deserves to be news in one way or another.

First off, as a loyal Red Sox fan (and admitting that my boys sucked hardcore this year), I have to be spitefully pleased that it's the Tigers and not the Yankees that are going to the ALCS.



amen to that!
I've sorta lost interest in it, but I'm probably rooting for the tigers or the A's.

a-rod needs to get out of NY. he's a great ball player but i dont think he can handle the scrutiny and spotlight of NY.
he would fit much better in a place like...i dunno, san francisco. :P

Did anyone hear about the plane crash in New York City early this afternoon that killed New York Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle? I read the story on the Internet when I came home from school and my jaw just dropped open when I saw it. It was just such an unexpected death and it really makes you put into perspective how short life can be and that you can never predict the day that it will end. Game 1 of the NLCS between the Cardinals and Mets got rained out, but I think it is appropriate that they aren't playing because I believe no one in New York City can focus on baseball tonight because anytime something like this occurs, the sporting event always takes a back seat to life, which means the proper thing to do is just reflect on Lidle's death and send your condolences out to his family and friends. It is going to cloud the entire NLCS because the memory of Lidle's death should be remembered for quite some time, but that is very important because it happened so suddenly and when he still had a long life ahead of him.

^ yeah i heard it's very sad my condolences to his family.

If you're not watching Game 7 of the NLCS, you may be missing one of the games of the year.

Endy Chavez in the 6th inning saved the Mets' asses from being down 3-1.

We're now in the 9th, still tied 1-1.

Win or lose, I'm happy with the way our team has stuck with the Cards when they have every excuse to win this game and this series.

3-1 cards. molina with a 2 run shot.

it'll be an even more amazing game 7 if the mets can pull this out in the bottom of the 9th.


Endy Chavez in the 6th inning saved the Mets' asses from being down 3-1.
that was an ridiculous catch.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. *sobs* Hoooooowwww could Beltran get struck out so easily WITH THE BASES LOADED?!

Better luck next year, I suppose...*cries* :(

What an anti-climactic ending to such a great game.

Beltran just got fooled big time.

We through everything at the Cards, but they threw it right back at us.

I'm upset that we didn't win, but I would have been more upset if we didn't try.

No excuses.

If I had a beer I'd be crying into it right now.

What an anti-climactic ending to such a great game.
not if you're a cards fan. ;)

Beltran just got fooled big time.
that was rough curve. very zito like.
beltran will be thinking about that at bat for a long time.


my predictions for the WS: detroit in 5. they're a much better team than than the cards. that starting staff and bullpen is well rested.

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Cards ftw. :mrgreen:

Damn...what a different series it would've been with Pedro and El Duque. Huge losses.

THIS FUCKING SUCKS! :(

w000000000000000000000000000000000000000t.

Cards ftw. :mrgreen:
that's cool your team is in the series. too bad they'll probly get dominated. :P


although, i thought the mets would take cars of the cards, sooooo.. who knows!

i just want 7 games. :D

Beltran folded like a cheap hooker getting hit in the stomach by a fat guy with sores on his face.

Looks like he couldn't handle the pressure. Went down looking with 2 outs and bases loaded. he could have been the hero, but blew it.

I really thought we had it. The Mets had several opportunities last night to make things happen, and just couldn't get people to cross the plate. The Cards played a good series, as did the Mets, but in the end, not having our 2 best pitchers on the mound meant the end of us. If you would have asked me all week, I woud have said "The Mets are going to the world series." It wasn't a predicition, I KNEW it, there was no room for doubt in my mind. So, this is a huge disappointment.

Awesome catch by Endy. That might be the catch of the year.

Well, at least I can go back to watching regular TV. I've been watching Mets games almost every night for the past month.

Let's just hope its not another embarrassing sweep like it was against the Sox a couple years back.

But this year... I am feeling it. It's been 19 years since we won the world series. Let's GOOOO CARDS.

Hey, I was "feelin it" for the Mets.

Unfortunately, Detroit is a force to be reckoned with. The Cards will give them a run for their money, but I see Detroit taking it all this year.

No excuses...if we'd won Game 2, I think we'd have won the series in 6...but our bullpen which had been reliable up to this point let the game go.

Pujols didn't do much, but Taguchi and Molina ripped us apart.

damn straight the mets lost. imma happeh. however, id like the tigers to take it all :D

Hey, I was "feelin it" for the Mets.

Unfortunately, Detroit is a force to be reckoned with. The Cards will give them a run for their money, but I see Detroit taking it all this year.

So do I. The Cards are a very solid team, but they don't have a very impressive record. Also, the Detroit pitching staff is the best I have ever seen in my life and I probably have never seen a lineup that has more balance from top to bottom than the one the Tigers boast. Albert Pujols will have a big series, but I think he will be the Cards only offensive threat because no one else has really done anything impressive in the postseason for St. Louis except for Yadier Molina, but he didn't have a good regular season, so I don't see him keeping up his success. I see St. Louis eeking out only one win, at best, in this series because they just aren't nearly the team they have been the last three or four years.

*clears throat*

"WEEEEEEEEEEEE are the campions my friend!!!! dun dun dun.... and we'lll keep on fiiiiightin... till the end dun dun dun..."

Holy crap the Cards pwn the asses of all in baseball.

I guess we can lock this thread now since the season is over....

Congrats to the Cards. I didn't see that one coming a mile away.

The Cardinals World Series victory just proves that what a team does during the regualar season is absolutely no indication of what they will do during the postseason. They deserved that championship because their lineup is dangerous from top to bottom, especially with Scott Rolen, Albert Pujols, and David Eckstein, their pitching staff is dominant with Jeff Suppan and Chris Carpenter, and they were definitely on a roll after beating the Mets. The Tigers just made way too many errors, didn't hit well enough from the start of the series, had too much rest after sweeping Oakland, and were too young and inexperienced in the first place to put up any kind of fight.

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WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

the giants signed zito!!!!!!!!!!

i thought for sure he would be going to NY.


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WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

the giants signed zito!!!!!!!!!!

i thought for sure he would be going to NY.


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That signing officially makes the National League West the best starting pitching division in baseball, IMO. The Dodgers have former Giants ace Jason Schmidt, who has always been dominant, the Padres have Greg Maddux, who has been solid throughout his career with the Braves and Cubs, Jake Peavy, who should rebound quite nicely from his injury-plagued season last year, and David Wells, who is a veteran pitcher that has put up decent numbers throughout his career, the Giants have Zito to repair the gaping hole left by Schmidt's departure and give them postseason experience, and the Diamondbacks have National League Cy Young Award winner Brandon Webb and could be on the verge of signing Randy Johnson again, which will help them get a large core of their fan base back and maybe allow him to have success again because he has done better in Arizona than he has at any other stop in his career.

Put all of that good pitching together with five mediocre lineups next season and you will see alot of low-scoring games and high strikeout totals.

Let the Giants have his overpaid ass. I think we offered him more than enough...oh well, at least you didn't pay for Ted Lilly :p

Let the Giants have his overpaid ass. I think we offered him more than enough...oh well, at least you didn't pay for Ted Lilly :p

I don't think Zito is overpaid. He is a very solid and consistent pitcher who has won an American League Cy Young Award in the past, has struck out a lot of batters, gives a team an average of 15 wins every season, and has the postseason experience that the Giants need. If you ask me, I think he makes them an instant contender in a mediocre division.

gil meche(yes, GIL MECHE) is getting paid 11 mill a year. compare that to zito's 18 a year and it seems like a steal. the length of contract is a little suspect. but hey, he's been consistant as hell for 6 seasons straight.