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Llywelyn
07-26-2004, 03:41 PM
The report is out. You can buy it for about $10 in hard-to-read print from many major booksellers, I believe that you can also get a copy of it (in PDF) here (http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf).

The report states that, among other things:

Denver Post:

The Bush administration has long maintained that there was a close working relationship between al-Qaeda and Iraq.

In October 2002, with the invasion of Iraq only months away, Bush said in a speech in Cincinati that "high-level contacts" between Iraq and al-Qaeda "go back a decade," and that "we've learned that Iraq has trained al-Qaeda members in bomb making and poisons and deadly gasses."

As recently as last month, Vice President Dick Cheney said there was reason to believe a disputed Czech intelligence report that Atta had met with a senior Iraq intelligence officer in Prague in April 2001, suggesting a tie between Iraq and the Sept. 11 plot.

But in its most contentious effort to set the record straight about the origins of the plot, the bipartisan commission's final report found no evidence of close collaboration between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda, appearing to undermine a justification for the Iraq war.



It also says that up to 13 of the hijackers had entered the US had entered the country illegally in some respect or had given false information on the forms. Only three of them were found afterwards on the databases.

It goes on (and on, and on) and I have to run, but I figured we'd start a discussion on the report itself.

Kaydee
07-26-2004, 03:56 PM
Wow I've been waiting on this to have a thread of its own, since we touched base on it in the Phillipines thread. I searched and I searched for our 'links' to al Qaeda in that report. All I have gotten was no such link or weak links. Granted i am only into the 2nd chapter of the report. I have also heard they plan on releasing about 4 more reports. My other concern with reading this reports was the actual events and times lines of 9/11. And exactly how it got to the point where it did. As i have said before i can not believe all the miscommunications and not following protocols, NEADS lying on their reports, and security at Boston just letting them walk through and not figuring out why the metal detector was going off. It just amazed me that these people are supposed to insure safe flights. I truely believe after the first plane was high jacked that the military should have been notified but they were not. I can go on and on but i do not have the report here with me at work so i am going off memory!

el_cid
07-27-2004, 12:54 AM
Ive got a load of shit to spill about this particular issue, but its late and i need to sleep so ill get to it tomorrow. This is a stellar report. Its objectivity rather than partisanship is great. Personally, i think that this gives us the insight that we need to not only fight the war on terrorism, but to win it as well.

Llywelyn, what's the basis for debate here? Shouldn't this be in the off-topic forum:confused:?

ToB
07-28-2004, 11:27 PM
Yes, it is very difficult to debate something that has been as thoroughly researched as this (and as unbiased as it was reported)...

However, you could debate that it makes Michael Moore look like a Big Fat Stupid White Man....or maybe that's his face.

bluesdealer
07-28-2004, 11:50 PM
Yes, it is very difficult to debate something that has been as thoroughly researched as this (and as unbiased as it was reported)...

However, you could debate that it makes Michael Moore look like a Big Fat Stupid White Man....or maybe that's his face.Bwhahahahahahahahahha!:D

Shape
08-09-2004, 01:14 AM
*high fives ToB*



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