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Fade2Black
07-14-2004, 01:23 PM
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This is really starting to piss me off. I keep seeing movies with animals being hurt for either comedy or just to make the movier scarier. I cant stand it anymore! It really gets to me and just ruins the movie for me personally. Ive seen all these movies in the last week or so and they were getting good until ofcourse the animal violence pops in.
*Spoilers*
Secret Window- (With Johnny Depp)- His dog gets stabbed with a screwdriver. wtf? Did that HAVE to happen? Doesnt it make you happy when the innocent animal lives all the way to the end?
Anchorman-(Will Farrel)-This one is almost okay. But Jack Black takes his dog and kicks it over a bridge into the water. That was made for COMEDY. I do NOT think it is the least bit funny seeing that happen. But the dog showed up at the end. So it was better than most.
Some scary movie on tv- I was raelly getting into this but when the evil person was about to kill someone, he just HAD to take the dog. I changed the channel and when I came back he was still holding the dog but putting it in a pillow case. WTF. I stopped watching the movie.

My point exactly. I love animals, and I know its fake, but it still hurts to have people act out hurting animals for the audiences pleasure. I have pets, and putting the image I see on tv into my mind gets me scared to think somone could really think of doing that to an animal.
Does anyone agree with me?

Bristlehead
07-14-2004, 01:26 PM
Hmm. Secret Window was suposed to be scary.... the dog gets stabbed, and you're not happy at the end of the movie, lol. That was the point right there. Same thing as people violence though, people got stabbed with screwdrivers too, it's not like they actually hurt the animal.

My friend's just like this, always complaining about animal right and stuff but you do realize that they're not being hurt in movies... If it's like destroying the rainforest then I can see.


[edit] I reread. Sorry about the whole they're not being hurt in movies thing. Hehe you should really talk to my friend, I swear. See...I bet you feel really sorry when the animals are hurt in movies, but when people get hurt it's not the same right? It's kind of the oposite with me. When anything gets hurt I feel bad. But for some of those movies they need it for the plot (especailly Secret Window. The guy was a nut, so he killed a dog. It fits.)

fizzy
07-14-2004, 01:29 PM
Well...they're not really doing it, are they? It's not like they're hurting the animals. Besides, human violence is depicted on screen all the time, fake and real, and humans are animals. If you can stomach that, why can't you stomach animal violence? As I said before, they're doing no harm if it's fake.

DeathlessVampire
07-14-2004, 01:31 PM
Hm.

Maybe some animal scenes are too much but you gotta think of it as...IT'S NOT REAL! They don't really hurt them. It's just a movie.


*Gets a flashback* Hahahahahaha...

From Deuce Bigalo Male Gigalo.

Something like..."One fish was harmed during the making of this movie...he is better now" Hahahahahahhahahah

Ok sorry. :p

Scott
07-14-2004, 01:31 PM
Well...they're not really doing it, are they? It's not like they're hurting the animals. Besides, human violence is depicted on screen all the time, fake and real, and humans are animals. If you can stomach that, why can't you stomach animal violence? As I said before, they're doing no harm if it's fake.
That's it. You nailed it. I completely agree.

Fade2Black
07-14-2004, 01:32 PM
I KNOW its fake. I just don't like it. When people get killed in movies, yeah that's ok. lol, I dont know it just gets to me. Animals are innocent!

Bristlehead
07-14-2004, 01:36 PM
Seriously, you just proved me right :) People that care too much about animals usually won't care if people get hurt. Seriously, if it's a scary movie a lot of the time it fits. They know people don't like it. But really...it's not like "poor animals..." worse stuff happens to people :) It's not like they ever torture animals on screen or anything. ...Slow and painful death for a dog. That would suck ;)

Nemo
07-14-2004, 01:40 PM
I think its sorta 'jaw dropping' or something when something like that happens. Im not offended or disgusted, but its always sort of a 'twist' for me when I see it.

Spoiler:
In Cold Creek Manor, the family finds their pet horse, dead in their swimming pool with bloody water.

But yeah, its just a movie. But maybe you have more compassion for animals than humans because animals love unconditionally? Well, most do. But still, Ive seen people killed and its disgusted me or caught my attention more than any animal scene.

Like in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre when Leatherface cuts the guys leg off, carries him, impales him on a meathook (still alive), and wraps salt to his stumpy leg. Thats what really got me.

And I do think people care a bit too much about animals than humans. And understandably so- but that shouldnt spoil any movies- unless its disgusting.

Cabin Fever had something weird at the beginning. A guy and his dog. The guy finds his dog laying in the ground. Dead? He picks up the dog...the dog is almost split/peeled in half.

Bristlehead
07-14-2004, 03:12 PM
I think its sorta 'jaw dropping' or something when something like that happens. Im not offended or disgusted, but its always sort of a 'twist' for me when I see it.

Spoiler:
In Cold Creek Manor, the family finds their pet horse, dead in their swimming pool with bloody water.

But yeah, its just a movie. But maybe you have more compassion for animals than humans because animals love unconditionally? Well, most do. But still, Ive seen people killed and its disgusted me or caught my attention more than any animal scene.

Like in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre when Leatherface cuts the guys leg off, carries him, impales him on a meathook (still alive), and wraps salt to his stumpy leg. Thats what really got me.

And I do think people care a bit too much about animals than humans. And understandably so- but that shouldnt spoil any movies- unless its disgusting.

Cabin Fever had something weird at the beginning. A guy and his dog. The guy finds his dog laying in the ground. Dead? He picks up the dog...the dog is almost split/peeled in half.

OMGSH, heh I watched that movie with my boyfriend :o It wasn't that scary...there was the one scary part with the snakes...because i hate snakes. Hehe the horse dying was really evil. I didn't like that guy.

Kailee_PA
07-14-2004, 03:53 PM
Well, I never like to see an animal get hurt, but like the others have said, it's fake. It's not really animal cruelty or harming the animals. Only thing that scares me though is how people do "copy cat" stunts of things they see in movies. Just like the time those kids laid down in the middle of the highway. But otherwise, I don't see a problem with it.

Kaprikorn
07-14-2004, 03:53 PM
If you hate animal violence then don't ever see Amores Perros. A lot of dogs get hurt in that movie. Or if you love rabbits then don't even think about watching Fatal Attraction.

Scott
07-14-2004, 05:38 PM
Well, they actually did slaughter that ox at the end of Apocalypse Now, but it was old and drugged. And it wasn't exactly for laughs. Not at all actually.

Paradise
07-14-2004, 08:54 PM
Animals are innocent!


You think Cujo was innocent? :cool:

DeathlessVampire
07-14-2004, 09:11 PM
You think Cujo was innocent? :cool:

LOL! What about the birds? Peck...peck...peck......

RastaChristian
07-14-2004, 09:19 PM
I KNOW its fake. I just don't like it. When people get killed in movies, yeah that's ok. lol, I dont know it just gets to me. Animals are innocent!


Humans are animals too, dammit.

axeslinger0u812
07-14-2004, 09:22 PM
Or Willard...or Cat's Eye...or...Anaconda...or ;)

I agree to a point. If it's ridiculously gratuitous and graphic, then it's distrubing, but that goes for animals and people. I loved the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but it's not like I was laughing when any of that torture crap happened. Same with a movie like The Butterfly Effect. That was truly disturbing what that kid did to the dog, but in the back of my mind, I knew it was fake. As long as you keep in mind that it's a movie, and nothing really happened, then you can take it for the distrubing factor it was meant for, and end it there. :)

ilookuptoamy
07-14-2004, 09:33 PM
one of the WORST ive seen was in the butterfly effect.. when the little boy just HAD to put the cute little dog into a bag and set it on fire and kill it.. i was absolutely horrified..

lazygirlsopha
07-14-2004, 10:57 PM
I couldnt agree more with you, I HATE seeing animals getting killed in movies, and you know why it is different to see a human getting killed on the movies than it is an animal? Because humans CAN defend themselves... most animals can't... i mean all animals can't if you have a weapon, it is like killing a baby or an elderly to me, because obviously they can't protect themselves either!

Shivercide
07-14-2004, 11:35 PM
What about tree violence? I feel for the poor, innocent trees that some people forget are living creatures, too.

axeslinger0u812
07-15-2004, 12:25 AM
I couldn't help but gives kudos to that post. *hands you kudos of a variety of flavors* and what about cruelty to walls. Ever notice how many people smash crap into them, causing holes and such... :p

Shivercide
07-15-2004, 01:13 AM
Well, walls can be just be a dead tree.

SO STOP VIOLATING CORPSES!!


Thank you, I love kudos. :) *yumyum*

PhantomsPandora
07-15-2004, 01:39 AM
I agree, crap like that just freaks me out...I was watching the Butterfly Effect, or when that horse dies in The ring....

I think it's in the back of my mind I know, that if the killer started out on an animal, it's only a hop skip and a jump to a human being.

Fallen Angelia
07-15-2004, 03:17 AM
There is a difference between blatant animal cruelty, and an animal dying as a result of something more serious going on in a scene..

I tend to find human cruelty more disturbing, but I'm just crazy like that. :p ;)

depplover
07-15-2004, 11:30 AM
i hate it too.. i dont like seeing that kinda stuff! and i hate when people are riding horses and fall off, they make the horses fall too.. thats so sad! and i cant watch it....

Fade2Black
07-15-2004, 12:11 PM
Someone made a good point, animals usually can't defend themselves. (lazygirlsopha) In movies, humans can defend themselves and talk out of it, but the little animal is just sitting there, it doesn't deserve anything!! :mad:

Siria
07-15-2004, 12:21 PM
i hate it too.. i dont like seeing that kinda stuff! and i hate when people are riding horses and fall off, they make the horses fall too.. thats so sad! and i cant watch it....

When I see something like that, it makes me think are the horses really getting hurt? I believe they don't.... and I really hope they don't.
It looks so real sometimes.

But in the other hand.. so does the people getting hurt look real. But it isn't.
I don't like to watch animal violence in movies either.. who does?
And I don't like human violence.. but that's something people are more used to see. Some people aren't even shocked about violence in movies anymore. People are used to it. I have to day that so am I.
I think human violence is as bad as animal.. but what makes animal violence even worse is that animals are innocent.. they don't deserve it, they don't realise why people do such bad things to them.

Mesektet
07-15-2004, 12:40 PM
Animal violence in movies squicks the shit out of me. I can't stand to watch it.

What's really funny is that I recently saw Secret Window and Anchorman within two days of eachother. I had to cover my eyes.

I saw a movie on HBO called Ginger Snaps, and within the first few scenes is an evcierated dog. Mouth open and everything. I almost cried. I can't stand to watch that type of stuff. It breaks my little heart to pieces.

I think it mainly squicks me is because I have a dog, and I love him to pieces. Everytime I see something like that it breaks me, because my mind automatically goes to, "What if that were Kodi? Or Isis [my cat]?" And I just freak out.

But I love Ginger Snaps, I just have to cover my eyes when a dead dog is coming up. I LOVED Secret Window, and thank God I had my friends there to tell me what was going on. And I made the most amusing squealy noise in the theatre during Anchorman.

Everybody has their squicks. That's mine. kbye

depplover
07-15-2004, 01:02 PM
When I see something like that, it makes me think are the horses really getting hurt? I believe they don't.... and I really hope they don't. It looks so real sometimes.


yea same here.. i'm sure they do a bit, cuz it looks really violent when they're flipping to the ground.. it happens a lot when people are riding horses, so whenever i see a movie with horses, i'm always hoping they do do that to them... :D

Nemo
07-15-2004, 01:15 PM
It probably looks so real on animals because animals cant really act- they can only be trained to do this or that... Humans can fake easily "AHHHHHHHH you shot me! You shot me! Why did you---*shotgun blast*" -Mustafa from Austin Powers.

When Sophie Fatale got her arm cut off in Kill Bill one and screamed while blood literally fountained out, I laughed so much. Only because that is so good screaming in pain and crying matched with cartoony violence...

Animals cant really do that. When they die, its sorta sad.


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