Just curious is all. I just wanted to know the rationale behind why some think Evboard in 2003 was waaaaaay much better than Evboard in 2006? There was a convo in the IRC the other night about this, but I really think this should be a candid discussion.
I joined in January 2004, but I did lurk awhile briefly in 2003. And there seems to be much more tolerance of people's posts now than way back then. And I enjoy Evboard 2006 greatly.
Machinehead
07-14-2006, 01:00 PM
There's a lot more retards now that post idiotic space filling crap that you have to sift through to read something interesting. Oh no, I might have just offended someone.
RedRooster
07-14-2006, 01:02 PM
I think it comes down to having a lot less members back then so it felt like a smaller community. You had a better chance of knowing everyone since there wasn't so many people posting all the time.
But then again I only joined at the end of 2003, so I missed that year ;)
Melissa-Marie
07-14-2006, 01:13 PM
As far as I see, the sole purpose for some people joining Evboard is their obsession with Amy. And most of the people who have just joined don't read the rules or anything and they just start posting like crazy and it's impossible to find posts with some substance in the thread. I used to visit Evboard all the time but I only joined a few months ago and I've noticed that these days, more and more obsessive and psychotic people are joining. Back then it probably wasn't so bad.
WamRaven
07-14-2006, 01:24 PM
This type of holyer-than-though attitude by the majority of members here is why I and many other people don't post here. I noticed it even back in 2004.. I was a year late on the bandwagon, and now it is impossible to become a member of the community here. I lurk here reading posts, that's it.. because if I post, I am talked down upon. I bet I just offended somone.
orgo
07-14-2006, 01:28 PM
Well, '03-'04 was really insane but at the same time more energetic and fresh. "Fallen" was new and inspiring. Also there was a more interesting range of people.
Frankly, '06 is jaded and exhausted. In three years, we've managed to hash through just about any topic imaginable and establish a culture of reactionary activity instead of simply fun things to talk about. Now, experienced users come here and the news is who's fighting who about what or who posted smack about who. New users are indeed basically fangasming about the new record. It's like watching an long,bizzare episode of Salad Fingers for the last year or so.
Once the new album comes out, it'll be either feast or famine. The board will be re-energized or mediocrity and psychoposting will bring the place to a halt.
Nagini
07-14-2006, 01:37 PM
I can't say I remember much about 2003. I do however remember the little headphone looking things that established yourself among the community. I think when you reached 100 posts then you got a headphone or something. Those things were the coolest and got me so excited.
My friend and I would always get hyped up cause we wanted a headphone so bad.
OMGZ I was teh n00b!
Machinehead
07-14-2006, 01:55 PM
This type of holyer-than-though attitude by the majority of members here is why I and many other people don't post here. I noticed it even back in 2004.. I was a year late on the bandwagon, and now it is impossible to become a member of the community here. I lurk here reading posts, that's it.. because if I post, I am talked down upon. I bet I just offended somone.
You said basically the same thing a year and a half ago. It's not impossible at all. I've seen plenty of new people come up into a well recognized status on the board out of noob-dom. Especially in the amount of time you've been here. If you want to hold that kind of attitude though, it's no surprise that you are where you are. Sit back, don't try, and complain. There's a lot of people who apply that way of thinking to their lives, and none of them ever get very far. It's their own fault.
This isn't so much just for you, but I'm sure plenty of people could stand to read it.
Shape
07-14-2006, 02:16 PM
There's a lot more retards now that post idiotic space filling crap that you have to sift through to read something interesting. Oh no, I might have just offended someone.
IAW machinehead. even though i joined in the ladder half of 03' i lurked for a while before i signed up.
plus, there was Head. and Fallen Angelia. and faerie. and fairy. ect.
MetalRepublican
07-14-2006, 02:24 PM
This type of holyer-than-though attitude by the majority of members here is why I and many other people don't post here. I noticed it even back in 2004.. I was a year late on the bandwagon, and now it is impossible to become a member of the community here. I lurk here reading posts, that's it.. because if I post, I am talked down upon. I bet I just offended somone.
Dude I am one of a view if not two republicans on this site and it's about give and take. There are people here that don't like me and I them but who cares. Each of us are guilty of being rude in some fashion or another. Just the idea of posting your favorite color could be rude but who cares.
MachineHead
You said basically the same thing a year and a half ago. It's not impossible at all. I've seen plenty of new people come up into a well recognized status on the board out of noob-dom. Especially in the amount of time you've been here.
Yeah, look at me.
What I miss most about the old board was Head. I miss head. It was so good, to argue with him.
Alesurya
07-14-2006, 02:34 PM
I can't say I remember much about 2003. I do however remember the little headphone looking things that established yourself among the community. I think when you reached 100 posts then you got a headphone or something. Those things were the coolest and got me so excited.
The headphones! I do miss them a bit. I tried recalling what all of them were with someone a while ago but I couldn't think of them all. There was something in between 'not so n00bish' or 'still n00bish' and 'post monkey' and 'fledging postwhore' but I can't remember. Is it worrying that I even remember that much?
I also remember not having a clue that the bandmembers posted here. I think I saw a post by Amy once and I thought it was someone else leading everyone on. What makes it worse is that at the time her username was actually amylee or something obvious like that.
I miss some of the people who I talked to on here in 2003 we definately had some strange IRC conversations and some that weren't strange to us but would have anyone that wasn't usually on IRC at that time of day very confused.
Oh, and in 2003 it didn't take half as long to load each page. Although when I first joined I did get script errors every time I loaded a new page. I can wait though.
But I do still enjoy visiting here. Some of the newer features are fun and also I find it easier and faster to search specific threads and forums.
b00bles
07-14-2006, 03:16 PM
Um, I think you've got it backwards. Posts were tolerated way better back in 03.
I miss 03 like woah.
Dark_Horse
07-14-2006, 03:55 PM
EvBoard 2003 sounds so much fun :)
*builds time machine*
whoooo it's rocking over here!
cowbell
07-14-2006, 04:08 PM
I joined in Jan 2004 but I did lurk in 2003.
I think the reason some people miss the "good old days" is because there was less drama. The band was still touring, the album was still semi-fresh, and it was more about chilling in irc and having whacked out conversations that made no sense whatsoever and caused you to laugh so much that your sides hurt.
IAW Caleb...all I ever do now is post in the EvBored threads, bcuz those provide some source of entertainment.
As far as it being hard for new members to become part of the community, maybe it is a bit harder because there isn't as many opportunitys to meet up at concerts or gatherings. wait for the tour to start, and see how you feel then. *shrugs*
/nostalgia
Wildangel
07-14-2006, 04:24 PM
I wasn't around for '03, I didn't join unitl mid 05. I think I lurked around march 05 then joined a couple months later after the big crash.
cowbell
07-14-2006, 05:31 PM
I wasn't around for '03, I didn't join unitl mid 05. I think I lurked around march 05 then joined a couple months later after the big crash.
LOL the big crash of 05 hehehe.
see? u joined later and look how awesome u are! n00bs can be inducted into awesomeness if they work at it! LOL
With the vBulletin migration and the new skin, errthang got less goth. I think that was our problem.
cowbell
07-14-2006, 05:34 PM
omg i had forgotten about blimptor...omg it's like, OG Crew galore!
Cfw828
07-14-2006, 05:52 PM
I remember that I'd been looking at the official board for a little while, but when everything was "Are they Christian or not?" I migrated here and then that old O-board died.
I can't say that I completely hate it now...although the one thing that I don't like is that there are some posters now that don't want to search for information when a good lot of it is right in front of you.
That's not to say that there wouldn't still be some debate over things and that's why some Ev issues still aren't completely resolved.
Back when we had the old board, it was still a problem, but seemingly less of it.
Otherwise, I guess I can't really complain.
I like a lot of the things that we have on the board now, I just wish we had some of the older posters back.
LaDiablo
07-14-2006, 05:57 PM
I have pretty much the same stance as everyone else. Back in '03 and '04 (I lurked for ages before spreeing in to join with everyone else in '04), everything was new. All of the hugelongforever threads there are now were fresh, inventive. And there were still little details to pick up and point out to people XD. Plus the smaller community, yes -- I still remember certain posters just for their arts and such. I remember Orgo's poetry thread popping up and immediately sprouting into "OH EM GEE YOU'RE SO TALENTED!!@!". It was fun.
But I don't have a problem with Evboard '06. I pretty much stopped posting a couple of months before the huge crash in favor of Zenhex, but I've been lurking again, lately. The Other Bands forum is lovely =].
_SilentlyBroken
07-14-2006, 05:58 PM
I wasn't around for '03, I didn't join unitl mid 05. I think I lurked around march 05 then joined a couple months later after the big crash.
I got lost in the big crash and had to rejoin hehe
b00bles
07-14-2006, 06:09 PM
I have pretty much the same stance as everyone else. Back in '03 and '04 (I lurked for ages before spreeing in to join with everyone else in '04), everything was new. All of the hugelongforever threads there are now were fresh, inventive. And there were still little details to pick up and point out to people XD. Plus the smaller community, yes -- I still remember certain posters just for their arts and such. I remember Orgo's poetry thread popping up and immediately sprouting into "OH EM GEE YOU'RE SO TALENTED!!@!". It was fun.
But I don't have a problem with Evboard '06. I pretty much stopped posting a couple of months before the huge crash in favor of Zenhex, but I've been lurking again, lately. The Other Bands forum is lovely =].
With the vBulletin migration and the new skin, errthang got less goth. I think that was our problem.
ha. i totally remember that layout. i also remember when it got changed to this one and everyone was like "omg sweet!"
b00bles
07-14-2006, 06:20 PM
ha. i totally remember that layout. i also remember when it got changed to this one and everyone was like "omg sweet!"
The layout wasn't changed so much as the software for the board.
And what is this big crash of 05?
Wasn't the big crash in 03/04?
cowbell
07-14-2006, 06:22 PM
k, i have to ask, what does ftw mean? im a n00b to that stuff heh.
LaDiablo
07-14-2006, 06:23 PM
I don't even remember Orgo writing poetry ftw.
Stupidity -- a side effect of negligence.
That's what I get for disappearing for a year and a half =/.
My bad. Orgo's paintings hitting hard and alone_i_break's poetry exploding into the much-loved.
Oceantron
07-14-2006, 06:24 PM
fuck the what. i believe.
and I have been around and I didn't know that Orgo writes poetry either. show meh!
brittany
07-14-2006, 06:30 PM
fuck the what. i believe.
and I have been around and I didn't know that Orgo writes poetry either. show meh!
It means 'for the win'. I thought it was that at first though. :o
Oceantron
07-14-2006, 06:32 PM
Snap. Then I guess that wikipedia thought the same way we did,
"FTW", a backward acronym for "WTF" used when there exists an even greater degree of confusion than called for by "WTF".
Shape
07-14-2006, 06:33 PM
The layout wasn't changed so much as the software for the board.
eh, whateva.
*kicks u*
LaDiablo
07-14-2006, 06:55 PM
and I have been around and I didn't know that Orgo writes poetry either. show meh!
:o
Stupidity -- a side effect of negligence.
That's what I get for disappearing for a year and a half =/.
My bad. Orgo's paintings hitting hard and alone_i_break's poetry exploding into the much-loved.
That so counts as 20 chars...
Oceantron
07-14-2006, 06:57 PM
I saw, hun. ;) 20202020
cowbell
07-14-2006, 07:05 PM
lol thanks for the info. i'd been curious.
orgo
07-14-2006, 08:27 PM
It's 'fuck the what' you goobers.
http://www.craigbrasco.com/shituff/ftw.jpg
As per Oceanic's research.
Blame ytmnd.com. They started it.
Nerds.
Edit: Hehe, yeah I can't write my way out of a paper bag. However, Shivercide has asked me to participate in the Writer's Group so one day I'll get the courage to do so.
brittany
07-14-2006, 08:40 PM
IT TOTALLY HAS TWO MEANINGS THEN.
gtfo orgo. omgwtf. i mean rly.
On a completely unrelated note -- goobers are really good.
Evboard '06 ftw![/useless post]
orgo
07-14-2006, 08:46 PM
I less than three britness like whoa.
Why art thou not in IRC these days?
Howie
07-14-2006, 09:01 PM
There's so much now. There's so much to keep up with and when you think you have a unique topic, it's already created and you get molested for it. Popularity is good to an extent. But then again, I was never really at the '03 forum...but that's when I signed up and the design was VERY SIMPLE.
Nice av orgo
FelicityS
07-14-2006, 09:03 PM
It's called change... big deal! :rolleyes: It happens on every forum, bands get new fans and branch out into younger crowds then the older members get their knickers in a knot! :eek:
technologysux
07-14-2006, 09:06 PM
does anybody know when the change from exodus evanescence to just evboard was? i'm just curious when i started lurking.
jmancini11
07-14-2006, 09:42 PM
even though i joined in the ladder half of 03' i lurked for a while before i signed up.
This was me too . . . but then after I joined I pretty much lurked for a long time after that anyway. :p
Ashlee
07-14-2006, 09:47 PM
I joined in the latter of 04' however I lurked from way back in 03'
oh those were the days.
DarkArchangel
07-14-2006, 10:23 PM
hehe i'm a long lost evboard or exodus evanescence member hehe... i haven't been here since 2004 i think...
yeah when this started it was rlly cool... low count of members and really close, you could get to know the most active ones and stuff... now it's just not the same, that's part of the reason why i left this site...
it was supposed to be a non-official ev forum site... but when the ev forums left at their main site and all this people started to arrive it just wasn't the same hehehe... i remember jasmine, posi, "The Priest" hehehe... all this weird but cool stuff that just won't happen anymore... but oh well... oh i'm lookin at my info and my last login was 07-22-2004 heheh there ya go...
well cya around maybe... bye...
P.S: if someone remembers me holler if not... bleh whatever...
rainbow_chaser
07-14-2006, 10:25 PM
evboard 02-03 was full of friends. evboard 06 is full of strangers. chock full to the rim. but nobody can prevent that =]
It looks like some people want a small, close-knit forum where everyone knows each other...while other people want a big, bustling forum with lots of members. You can't really have both. So, I guess no one will ever be satisfied.
I'm a n00b, I only joined this year so I have no idea what the old Evboard was like. Therefore it's probably not my place to say this, but it'd be really nice if people could find a balance between older members sitting around in wistful reverie of the old evboard days, and n00bs who largely post uninteresting comments and/or rubbish. It'd also be nice if some members stopped acting like know-it-alls when it comes to Evanescence trivia, the ways of Evboard, etc - n00bs have to learn somewhere. I'm not saying a lot of people do this, just a few.
And now I shall shut up and stop complaining, because no doubt I've ticked heaps of people off.
Katya
07-14-2006, 10:58 PM
I think that balance will come back once we get new stuff to talk about, which is coming in trickles as of yet.
I joined in the tail end of the [exodus]evanesecnce days, just before we switched to EvBoard. However, I didn't come upon the board early enough to actually know the '03 "good old days."
I have to say that I do like the way it was in '04 a bit better than now; there were more people/n00bs who knew the FAQs, some really cool people who aren't here now. I do, though, like this board now as well. There's an awful lot of us, and a lot of the n00bs who don't search and post redundant, unintelligent questions, but I'm happy with the friends I've made and the people I know here. I think that there are pluses and minuses to each 'way', and we can't really change the way things are. :)
The big crash was in '05, b00bles...June of last year, and it deleted everything back to January 25, 2005, which was when the big server move happened. Man, that was a mess...
Gyakusetsu
07-14-2006, 11:36 PM
I joined in early '04 so I guess I have no basis for comparison. I do remember how it was before the crash of '05, though and it was getting really points and reputation oriented and like... weird I don't know how to explain it.
In all honesty, the crash was one of the most bittersweet reality checks for the board and it sorta cleansed the weirdness making everything just better (still is for the most part).
Ooohh... store from '05... that was such a trip. We were not mature enough for it yet ;)
As for recent drama...*embarrassed* I hate to say I had a part in it, but I really kinda pseudo did (most mods, ToB and b00bles know what I'm talking about). All I can really say is that in retrospect I'm ashamed of that post and I wish it had never happened. Odd times fueled by weirdness like none other. What can ya do. :o
Tracie
07-14-2006, 11:57 PM
It looks like some people want a small, close-knit forum where everyone knows each other...while other people want a big, bustling forum with lots of members. You can't really have both. So, I guess no one will ever be satisfied.
There is a way to have both, and it still exists on evboard today. Yeah, not everyone are friends with everybody else, but there are some groups that have become very close through evboard and get together still to do things (roadtrips, hanging out and such)
Carmen
07-15-2006, 12:19 AM
I came across this board in June 03 I think. I just lurked for news and stuff for a while until December 03, I gave in. I was a lurker from then till a few months ago. I've only just really started to post all the time.
I enjoyed 03 what with less members and threads making more sense heh. Though like I say I was a lurker for about 3 years :p
bloodpigs
07-15-2006, 12:29 AM
I lurked for a quite abit and then I joined in 2004. I think 2003-2004 was better because it just had so much of a happier vibe and despite the n00bs etc it's kinda what made the board that bit more entertaining and at the same time frustrating. There was always a topic that you just couldn't wait to post in. Now when I really feel like posting I browse the threads yet I feel I have nothing to say or nothing that's worth posting.
I expect a big rush of new and current evanescence fans to this board when thier new album is released. I can just see it. Hold your shields up cause this is going to be crazy. The only thing that kinda makes me kind of 50/50, is that I hope to god that when the open door is released, that this board will not be attacked by a huge swarm of 12 , 13, 14 yr olds. I just hope they don't attack every bit of this board that it will be filled with crap.
Machinehead
07-15-2006, 12:38 AM
I came across this board in June 03 I think. I just lurked for news and stuff for a while until December 03, I gave in. I was a lurker from then till a few months ago. I've only just really started to post all the time.
I enjoyed 03 what with less members and threads making more sense heh. Though like I say I was a lurker for about 3 years :p
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, because I really might be, but I specifically remember the board mandating membership in order to even read it when I joined in July 03, and I've heard the same story from several older members. So how is it that people keep saying they lurked before joining during that time? Are there fibbers in our midst?
Carmen
07-15-2006, 12:45 AM
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, because I really might be, but I specifically remember the board mandating membership in order to even read it when I joined in July 03, and I've heard the same story from several older members. So how is it that people keep saying they lurked before joining during that time? Are there fibbers in our midst?
0_o Really?! It must have been some exodus site I used to go on that I'm thinking of then. I don't really remember the layout to well but I do remember it having the same colors as this board with good ev info on it
'Salem's Lot
07-15-2006, 12:51 AM
Edit::
About the screen names, mine was Missing_October, when I first joined, gawed:o.
When I joined, evboard in 2004, I had just got back from a summer vacation. I had lurked in June /July for only about a week. When I came back from vacation I finally found the board. Yeah, there was this one time I pm'ed Ben, and asked him what ToB meant:o.
I remember the "Little Amy Lee!" thread. What I can remember from that thread, where the pictures, and Katya's avatar:p. [The one with Britney Spears/and the corset. Something like that.:confused:]
I didn't have access to a computer in 20003:(. I did'nt even know of Evboard then.
In 2004, I posted I think, one or (a cpuple threads. I think)
that where locked by LowerCountry(h3 hass it out 4 meh)
:due to me not using the search:. Now days I don't even start threads I just lurk.
2005 the crash, I had just changed my name, ( To 'Mary from: 'Salem's Lot) then when I logged in, I was like wtf?
Now where here in 2006, I wonder what '07 a beyond will bring? More noobs? Evboard: It keeps growing, and
growing...
Carmen
07-15-2006, 12:55 AM
Talking of changing screen names I must have had the worst EVER when I first joined.
Traded_Worth
07-15-2006, 01:26 AM
i joined evboard two years ago this month...i thought it was the coolest thing ever, because i got everything on ev...haha i honestly don't even remember how I found evboard...sure glad i did
i remember doubting if it really was the band posting here too..heh:rolleyes:
AND i remember the big crash...where everything waserased as far back as jan 1st 2005 (i think).. i was pissed cuz i thught for some reason the computer i was on was the problem. lol
good times
*Dawn*
07-15-2006, 01:36 AM
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, because I really might be, but I specifically remember the board mandating membership in order to even read it when I joined in July 03, and I've heard the same story from several older members. So how is it that people keep saying they lurked before joining during that time? Are there fibbers in our midst?
I think you're right. I lurked after I joined, for I think a year. From December 2003 until December 2004 or something. On this account. I don't think you could lurk without having an account back then.
I remember a lot of stuff from back then, I also remember being too afraid to post because everyone seemed to know each other so well and I felt like an outsider. :rolleyes:
Once I actually started posting though, I realized it wasn't as scary as I thought lol.
I agree with Katya, in 2004 the people seemed to read the FAQ's more, even the n00bs. They'd make less silly mistakes and search more before posting. *shrug*
I like evboard just fine now. The new store's cooler than the old one. And there are a lot of really awesome people here. :)
Bristlehead
07-15-2006, 02:19 AM
i found gabe's site by googling evanescence. [exodus]evanescence and evanescence.com were the only two music related results. hahahaha.
Ditto. That's my favorite memory of years ago. It makes me smile.
Can't say I hate the times now though.
cowbell
07-15-2006, 02:42 AM
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, because I really might be, but I specifically remember the board mandating membership in order to even read it when I joined in July 03, and I've heard the same story from several older members. So how is it that people keep saying they lurked before joining during that time? Are there fibbers in our midst?
well i joined just after the v1 board changed to the v2 board. or something like that. i know i lurked in late 2003 though before i joined in jan 2004
technologysux
07-15-2006, 03:03 AM
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, because I really might be, but I specifically remember the board mandating membership in order to even read it when I joined in July 03, and I've heard the same story from several older members. So how is it that people keep saying they lurked before joining during that time? Are there fibbers in our midst?
i'm assuming that they created a membership, or an account, but just never posted.
RastaChristian
07-15-2006, 03:31 AM
I didn't actually join until April 2004, but the board back then was very much enjoyable. There weren't as many idiots and it was just a smaller community. Then an incident that happened in August '04 that I have bad memories of. I got banned for a day for my opinion, and I've basically been in lurk mode since then.
Melanie
07-15-2006, 07:42 AM
I joined on January 27th of 05, I remember specifically because when the crash of 05 happened it appeared that I had never existed. In June of 05 I went back to being a noob again just as I had gotten out of the mod que. Compared to all of the old timers here I am still a noob but I still feel like I need to post here. I don't know how it was in 03 but I do know that I have met some wonderful people here, people that I have gotten really close to. I do feel like this board is full of close friends and that when I come here, I feel like I have come home. As cheesy as that sounds its true. I truly believe that this board is what you make it. I tend to skim over the fluff and if it doesnt look interesting I pass it up. It is still easy to see intelligent posts and witty comments, and they are not exclusively from the oldtimers. :)
*off soap box*
jmancini11
07-15-2006, 08:22 AM
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, because I really might be, but I specifically remember the board mandating membership in order to even read it when I joined in July 03, and I've heard the same story from several older members. So how is it that people keep saying they lurked before joining during that time? Are there fibbers in our midst?
Whenever I lurk on a board (admittedly I do this more than I should :o) I feel weird posting on that username and always make a new one when I decide to start posting. I don't know why, I'm just weird like that. :p
I'm assuming my lurker-name was deleted, though I can't remember what it was anyway. O_o
Miles D
07-15-2006, 11:11 AM
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, because I really might be, but I specifically remember the board mandating membership in order to even read it when I joined in July 03, and I've heard the same story from several older members. So how is it that people keep saying they lurked before joining during that time? Are there fibbers in our midst?
I'm not sure I can speak for everybody else, but when I first came across evboard... I'm 99.9% sure I was able to read the threads without having to join / register. I specifically recall reading the Introduce Yourself, Concert Discussions, and Messages from the Band forums.
p.s. 1,000 views & 64 replies in less than a day? I haven't had such a 'hit' thread like this in a long time. *feels accomplished*
gilwellian
07-15-2006, 12:40 PM
As far as I see, the sole purpose for some people joining Evboard is their obsession with Amy.
Worshipping Amy Lee, a somewhat mean-spirited young girl like everyone, in the hope that she has chaired the leadership in Goth Life.
I don't miss a lot really, but it's taking awhile to get used to every new format. Well... not true... I miss the archive the most. Man, there were some good posts in that archive and they have all been lost after the 2005 crash. I enjoyed going back to read them on occassion. And they were handy for reference.
Sigh! :(
And I miss some of the evboarders who don't post over here anymore.
Shape
07-15-2006, 12:48 PM
Worshipping Amy Lee, a somewhat mean-spirited young girl like everyone, in the hope that she has chaired the leadership in Goth Life.
fuck the what ?
Diamon
07-15-2006, 01:04 PM
Worshipping Amy Lee, a somewhat mean-spirited young girl like everyone, in the hope that she has chaired the leadership in Goth Life.
fuck the what ?
Isn't it obvious? We're *ALL* mean-spirited young girls.
gilwellian
07-15-2006, 01:23 PM
Isn't it obvious? We're *ALL* mean-spirited young girls.
...and boys .
mbmanus
07-15-2006, 01:28 PM
I like that its become a little more laid back. I think the people in general have become more mature, which is good and bad. Sometimes I miss the tomfoolry of the "olden days."
Not to mention the people that no longer post here.
RedRooster
07-15-2006, 02:12 PM
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, because I really might be, but I specifically remember the board mandating membership in order to even read it when I joined in July 03, and I've heard the same story from several older members. So how is it that people keep saying they lurked before joining during that time? Are there fibbers in our midst?
It was like that when I joined. Actually one of the reason I joined was to see what people were saying about the Ev show I saw the day before. ;)
ToB
07-15-2006, 02:31 PM
Indeed, a lot has changed. Some for the better, some for the worse. For me, there is less of a sense of community, but that might be due to the fact that this place has gotten so big that smaller communities have spun off within the confines of EvBoard. This is OK! We are not the small place we once were where everybody had to be everybody else's friend. I think TMR alluded to it earlier when he mentioned that there are people who don't like him, and people who he doesn't like. That's ok as long as we can learn to ignore and/or avoid those people and not stir up drama.
Anyway, I like where EvBoard has gone, and I hope to continue to keep this place going as a fun and enjoyable place to visit. My next step to accomplish this is to implement an IQ test that you must complete prior to joining. (I'm kidding, of course...most of you wouldn't pass it anyway.)
blackvulture
07-15-2006, 02:43 PM
The board in 03 was a hell of a lot of fun! Those original fans, half of which were from Little Rock were all pretty tightknit. Blind luck that I got to be part of it.
The board in 06 has Tetris. It's eaten my soul.
the end
:)
RedRooster
07-15-2006, 02:58 PM
My next step to accomplish this is to implement an IQ test that you must complete prior to joining. (I'm kidding, of course...most of you wouldn't pass it anyway.)
I always wanted that feature :(
tarbendar
07-15-2006, 03:09 PM
Ah for what its worth except for a small few members I'm one of the old school members. I used to enjoy coming here on a daily basis to read up on world info, wacked out crap, and other entertaining drivel.
Now I come on and its 9000 posts from some fuckwit who cant understand why he or she is getting reprimanded for being a dumbass.
Yanno its a far kinder place now than it was then. If you even took it upon yourself to be a dumbass you were publically flogged and flamed till you left. And no one gave two shits about it. If you took the time to read and learn and be a member you were welcomed into the fold. And even then we had our little roadtrips and gatherings. It didnt take a miracle to make it happen.
I still believe in the values I were taught when I joined, whether they be of advantage or not now.
And I really miss Posi, WarriorLibrarian, EternalJester, emanon, ceres, and khemicalburn, etc.
Luna
07-15-2006, 05:46 PM
There's a lot more retards now that post idiotic space filling crap that you have to sift through to read something interesting. Oh no, I might have just offended someone.
I agree 100%
Hence why I don't visit very often now :(
Oceantron
07-15-2006, 08:33 PM
I agree 100%
Hence why I don't visit very often now :(
The only way that's ever going to change though is by example. Let's have the cool peeps come back and show the retards how it's done.
I just personally think that it sucks that there are people around who have turned to posting less than 3 sentences when they are capable of so much more. Where did the reading go? I miss it. Yeah, I could go read a book or something, but I'd rather read something people here have to say about things that we may have in common interest wise.
All in all, it just sucks that people are giving up because things have changed. Be it something that relates to the way people post or whatever other reasons people may have. If they can be overcome, come back and make it happen.
p.s. I don't want to offend anyone with using the word retard, I used it in reference to Machinehead's post +, I may be one as well, so there--you get my drift, I hope.
Nagini
07-16-2006, 04:28 PM
Sometimes it feels like the older members, or more reputable members are just sort of the Mod-ish types.
For example: When I read threads like Ev concert discussion, I sift through piles upon piles of crap and then occasionally I see a reuptable or older member or mod say "hey get back on the subject" or "OH DEAR GOD PLEASE stop talking about this".
I dunno, I got nothin'.:(
beardybg
07-16-2006, 06:52 PM
I can't remember exactly when I joined, but my old account got deleted in the server crash. I remember when I first joined though there was a proper sense of community. Because the mod queue (for me at least) took a hell of an effort to get out of, I felt more important and I felt as I people new my name. I don't know if anyone remembers me from before the crash, but admittedly I haven't been around as much lately.
I also miss warnings. I remember I got a warning for double posting. We don't have those official warning things anymore do we?
I also miss my extrememly precious 672 posts. I miss them alot. When the server crashed and I had to go through with signing up again and going through the mod queue once more, I kinda gave up. I've never really felt the same sense of membership and being part of the community since the crash tbh.
There are some people who seem to be here just to cause an argument. Some people who try to be smartarses. And some people who are unwilling to be the one to give in as to avoid a confrontation - as giving in could ruin their macho-ness or what have you.
Today I've been in two threads where older members have told off lurkers for no apparent reason, and in such a way that it seems an argument is wanted.
There is also an annoying amout of crap that people post. People who don't make any effort to spell and punctuate properly. It annoys me. It doesn't take much effort to type tbh.
It has felt so dull here recently. Everything about Evanescence and their songs has pretty much been asked and answered a million times, and people seem a bit restless. There seems to have been a bit of a buzz because of the new album, but with that comes with the thousands of new members posting lyk dis nd n0t tlkin9 properly. It kind of annoys me.
That's why in the old Open Door discussion thread thing we had I asked if someone could make a thread with JUST info on the album which no one could postwhore in. One was made by Chris (whether you saw my post/similar posts or if you just decided things needed sorting out, I thank you anyway), and is a major relief. :)
Basically. I adored EvBoard when I came here. And I love it even more now, however much I complain.
I'm just putting all my hope in tha fact that millions and millions of n00bs and little 12 year old girls come here going ZOMGZ EFFERVESCANS RAWK.
Ugh. That would piss me off.
I love this place though.
People can be accepted into the senior/uber member community, I've seen a ton of people who have recently joined who are now big names on the board, who I didn't recognise before.
Time to start posting away I guess.
<3 EvBoard forever.
=)
Starah
07-16-2006, 07:45 PM
I agree with jasmine...i feel like this place is full of strangers. I used to talk to a ton of people who don't post very much anymore, i remember being one of the few who lived in colorado. I have found a band to fill my "evanescence space" with the meet ups and message board, but I'm also hoping this new album will awaken my evanescence love again. this board is just too big for me to keep up with anymore.
and on the subject of lurking before joining, i remember joining as sarahbear or something like that because i couldnt read the posts as a lurker, then shortly after joining getting chewed out by dev <3 because i posted something ridiculously stupid. i was mad and left for a while then came back.
mbmanus
07-16-2006, 08:33 PM
Ah for what its worth except for a small few members I'm one of the old school members. I used to enjoy coming here on a daily basis to read up on world info, wacked out crap, and other entertaining drivel.
Now I come on and its 9000 posts from some fuckwit who cant understand why he or she is getting reprimanded for being a dumbass.
Yanno its a far kinder place now than it was then. If you even took it upon yourself to be a dumbass you were publically flogged and flamed till you left. And no one gave two shits about it. If you took the time to read and learn and be a member you were welcomed into the fold. And even then we had our little roadtrips and gatherings. It didnt take a miracle to make it happen.
I still believe in the values I were taught when I joined, whether they be of advantage or not now.
And I really miss Posi, WarriorLibrarian, EternalJester, emanon, ceres, and khemicalburn, etc.
I agree. I miss those people too. I guess its alot like life. You gotta take the good with the bad. While you do have to put up with alot of crap, I thiink overall this place has become a little more personable then in the beginning.
When I first joined here, alot of emphasis was placed on "growing thick skin" and I think its still true, but in a different way. With the mass of people here now, you are bound to find some opinion that you disagree with or attitude that you disagree with, and generally now the best policy is to let it go. Not everything mind you, but I think its impossible now to moderate EVERYTHING(and this is no disrespect to the mods, or rules at all) and sometimes you just have to let things go.
Nemo
07-16-2006, 08:41 PM
Im an '04 person, but... maybe this can put it in some sort of perspective:
Theres an entire board made specifically for things like "wut amy lee style r u?", "what evanescence song u is?", and "how goth ru". Some are alright, but...
Jade19
07-16-2006, 08:47 PM
I heard about evboard while waiting in line at a seattle concert from rhianne? or something (sorry I can't remember your name!) I think it was at the end of 2003 and at that point I had been searching for more info on Ev and came across Origin stuff. Anyways I was directed here....did a small introduction and lurked until I figured out how the board worked.
I think every online community has there "issues". There has been a lot of growth here and that can lead to people feeling excluded or frustrated. It also contributes to many posts that cause fights and rifts between members. My opinion is that if the board was "better" back then it's because it really was a "community"...a small one where everyone knew each other. I don't really feel like it was better back then....it's just different now. (Keep in mind that I didn't join until the end of '03) so maybe I missed out on the good ole days.
central park
07-16-2006, 09:57 PM
'03= better topics, funnier comments, mods being more strict(i loved that, very entertaining), there was always news on something, lots of meetings with other evboarders, plus teh band came on more.
'06= it seems theres more topics on random crap just to get amys attention, dumber comments, less posting from ten band, and when they do post theres 20 zillion stupid comments like "oohhh how cool" or "ohh its nice to hear about this or that" that follow.
i felt it was more about teh music in '03 and it seemed like a better community because we all could relate and talk about eva. now.....way too many weirdos.
Tracie
07-17-2006, 12:19 AM
More members=More chaos & pointless crap to sift through.
With the vBulletin migration and the new skin, errthang got less goth. I think that was our problem.
My goodness. That right there is why I like '03 more compared to now. Cause then I was a mod! See my name's in green! And so were all my first friends from the Efanar days. w00t
I never should have left... I'm a silly girl. Oh well. But I can't really say I don't like EvBoard '06, cause I still have my wonderful friends that I was so wonderfully blessed with from finding this band. And our fantastic unforgettable trips across the country. Aww... I'm getting sentimental. Sorry!
viva la evboard!
orgo
07-17-2006, 01:11 AM
omg
Posi come back to us!
:D
Now where the eff are Syd and Head!?1
cowbell
07-17-2006, 01:15 AM
OMGZ0r, it's posi!!!! *major huggage*
maybe i'll come up for a bay area concert this time, and you can smell my hair again!
Posi
07-17-2006, 01:22 AM
OMGZ0r, it's posi!!!! *major huggage*
maybe i'll come up for a bay area concert this time, and you can smell my hair again!
If you promise it smells like Waffle Cones darling ;) But only then.
EvBoard will never be forgotten no matter what year it is. Plain and simple.
Oh and you can thank Syd for spiking my curiosity cause she posted a bulletin on myspace about the Ev trailer. Tadaaaaaaa
Katez0r
07-17-2006, 01:26 AM
But Miranda, will your hair smell like waffle cones?
I can't really compare '03 to '06, because for the majority of '06, I've not been visiting this place even once a month. I got tired of wading through idiotic posts, I suppose. The rush of new people made my head spin, and everyone that I liked to talk to here kind of... left. It might sound bitchy, or something, but I felt that I had made the friends here I wanted to make, and I didn't want to expend the effort to sift through countless idiot n00bs to find the ones worth getting to know.
Edit: Oh feck, Posi beat me to the waffle cones. That's so like her! (I don't know what I mean by that.)
Posi
07-17-2006, 01:34 AM
But Miranda, will your hair smell like waffle cones?
I can't really compare '03 to '06, because for the majority of '06, I've not been visiting this place even once a month. I got tired of wading through idiotic posts, I suppose. The rush of new people made my head spin, and everyone that I liked to talk to here kind of... left. It might sound bitchy, or something, but I felt that I had made the friends here I wanted to make, and I didn't want to expend the effort to sift through countless idiot n00bs to find the ones worth getting to know.
Edit: Oh feck, Posi beat me to the waffle cones. That's so like her! (I don't know what I mean by that.)
Shooooooooooooooot! We're coming out of the woodwork now! And I know what you meant by that!
WE CAME
WE SAW
WE ORGIED!
Katez0r
07-17-2006, 01:39 AM
Yes! Like termites!
Oh how I miss the orgies. Our epic, pornographic romps through the state (and sometimes out of it.) *Le sigh*
I would start going "Remember when...?" But I think that would not be appropriate, and I wouldn't want to get MODDED.
an0thercreation
07-17-2006, 02:35 AM
I wasn't around for '03, I didn't join unitl mid 05. I think I lurked around march 05 then joined a couple months later after the big crash.
Yeah.
I was part of EvBoard before the big crash thing, but I was relatively new, and then I had to re-join. Luckily I got to keep the same username if I remember correctly :)
Ann
Carmen
07-17-2006, 04:59 AM
Reading this thread makes me wonder if I'm one of the 'retards' or nice members. heh. I didn't post much when I first joined, as I said before I was more of a lurker and now I tend to post quite a bit. The reason why I post alot more now is because I'm more mature to be honest. I must have been one of those 'young pointless posts' members back then.
Who knows I may be that pointless member right now :p I don't feel like I spam. I admit, I do get moany and complain as to why a thread exists sometimes but that's just me getting all ranty with my personal opinions which I should stop to be honest!
I love most of you guys on here...love as in love evboard stylee ;)
I get along with all of you apart from the odd few members here and there, but I just ignore those few members :)
Shape
07-17-2006, 06:23 AM
ah fark. i missed katez0r & posi.
*bummed*
Oayis
07-17-2006, 08:13 AM
Reading this thread makes me wonder if I'm one of the 'retards' or nice members.
One of the weirdos, Carmen. :p lawlz you know i love you and your irc weirdness. =P
Anyway, I joined during the ABH rush. Stupid decision. I should've joined when I first found this place in 2003. Wasn't there a page with a link to evboard that said "EvaFanCentral" or something? I remember that.
Anyway, someone else pointed this out, but I also remember that before the '05 crash, we were point & rep crazy. It was like the plague, so to speak.
I don't know when I generally am, either. I've become friends (at least acquaintances) with people from both the "good ol' times" and the recent times, but I joined pretty late to know what I am.
beardybg
07-17-2006, 08:16 AM
Yeh - I remember before the crash each point and each rep actually meant something, you felt rewarded when you posted, now I dunno. Its not the same.
Oayis
07-17-2006, 08:41 AM
Yeh - I remember before the crash each point and each rep actually meant something, you felt rewarded when you posted, now I dunno. Its not the same.
I think it's the opposite now. Before, all we wanted were points and reps, where when we asked, we got them. I remember a lot of people (myself included) added "Yay ____ posts!" at the end of posts, which was kind of a signal to say "Hey give me reps."
Tiger_Goddess
07-17-2006, 11:01 AM
As says my info on the side there, I was here in 2003. It's been so long I don't even know how I FOUND EvBoard lol. Probably looking for Ev pictures or something. So I became a member but was kind of afraid to post after noticing a lot of people saying stuff about stupid threads and posts. I was a very shy person back then too, always second guessing myself anyway, so yeah I read lots of posts and sometimes posted replies if I was confident in it being something worthwhile.
And here I am today, I've been a Paid Subscriber for a year (and it will be activated again once Pay Pal does all the crap its gotta do >.<). I felt like this place deserved my money. I have found out so much information about Evanescence, I've laughed at all the funny threads and if I feel like I want to debate about something I can too. Sure, of course there are problems (most of which I have no idea about and would rather not find out about :) ) but all places have them. I've visited many forums and none have been as long standing and active as this one. And no other forum has had the many people that will support you even if they dont know you. Or the blunt honesty, which is sometimes a great thing :)
Soooo heres to EvBoard, past and present because through all the stuff that has happened, some of us from 2003 are still here and loving it :)
beardybg
07-17-2006, 11:11 AM
I think it's the opposite now. Before, all we wanted were points and reps, where when we asked, we got them. I remember a lot of people (myself included) added "Yay ____ posts!" at the end of posts, which was kind of a signal to say "Hey give me reps."
I kinda see what you mean actually. I think it might have been because I was super new and I was flattered someone repped me. Now when I get reps its like - ah cool.
I remember people used to get told of for postworhing the Introduction section.
*is totally not guilty of that* :rolleyes:
DhammaSeeker
07-17-2006, 01:46 PM
I also miss warnings. I remember I got a warning for double posting. We don't have those official warning things anymore do we?I miss them too. They are useful form a mod point of view. I think I'll nag ToB about it again.
I also miss my extrememly precious 672 posts. I miss them alot. When the server crashed and I had to go through with signing up again and going through the mod queue once more, I kinda gave up. I've never really felt the same sense of membership and being part of the community since the crash tbh.The key to internet message boards is you get what you give. Regardless of your post count or reputation score, if you're contributing, you'll feel a sense of place. I encourage you (and the nameless others who feel the same way you do) to post more and see how you feel.
Today I've been in two threads where older members have told off lurkers for no apparent reason, and in such a way that it seems an argument is wanted.That's what the report post button is for. http://evboard.com/images/shady/buttons/report.gif Please use it. The mods can't possibly read every post.
There is also an annoying amout of crap that people post. People who don't make any effort to spell and punctuate properly. It annoys me. It doesn't take much effort to type tbh.I've noticed this complaint is a theme in this thread. I think we'll redouble our efforts to help trim the crap.
beardybg
07-17-2006, 02:08 PM
Yeh, I understand the whole 'you get what you give' concept. So recently I've just been around more, posting, PMing, that kind of thing. I hate EvBoard for being suprisingly addictive. :rolleyes:
I'll keep the report button in mind, its one of those things I never really noticed...
I've noticed this complaint is a theme in this thread. I think we'll redouble our efforts to help trim the crap.
I find its most annoying in the Open Door thread. You have so many people posting rubbish. Also it annoys me how people don't spell properly, and even more annoying, is people who don't spell properly AND use stupid fonts and colours (but I know you can't stop them using silly fonts/colours). I like how some people use them (eg Oceanic) because its simple and the same in all posts. But some people go OTT.
And how people just post over and over again things that have been said before. Even a few 'older' members I have seen have openly said things such as "I don't know if this has been said before because I can't be arsed to read through everything", and just hope for the best. Its not a good example. :(
But, rant over.
I'm just being super picky now, so I apologise, :sigh:
tarbendar
07-17-2006, 05:17 PM
I miss the calih0z!
All there is to it. Maybe this place will look up soon when the cd is released. Its kinda the way I see it. I have talked to a couple of people who are just gaga waiting for it and I remember I used to feel that way also. maybe that part of me died or faded off or what not.
So here's to hoping.
bon soir mes amis
ToB
07-17-2006, 06:15 PM
I miss the calih0z!
All there is to it. Maybe this place will look up soon when the cd is released. Its kinda the way I see it. I have talked to a couple of people who are just gaga waiting for it and I remember I used to feel that way also. maybe that part of me died or faded off or what not.
So here's to hoping.
bon soir mes amis
I think it's you preparing yourself for the inevitability that this next album is going to really, REALLY suck. ;)
bloodpigs
07-17-2006, 11:38 PM
out of the blue I can see more and more users are online.
I think evboard will once again be revamped with lots to say
we can't bring 2003 back.
but 2006 evboard + the open door = partttayyyyy,more members,n00bs etc etc
:D
Adraorien
07-18-2006, 12:16 AM
I miss the older days. It just seems like so much is going on now and it's crazy. The atmosphere is different or something.
cowbell
07-19-2006, 09:24 PM
i remember something that evboard 06 is lacking...
The Carpet vs Tile thread!!!!!1111one!!!!
*points at sig*
hhheheheehheeh whatever happened to that, anyways
edit: dhamma informed me that im an idiot, and that thread has been brought back. hehehe im dumb
DhammaSeeker
07-19-2006, 09:27 PM
Someone's not paying attention! (http://www.evboard.com/showthread.php?t=31694)
cowbell
07-19-2006, 09:46 PM
dude, i so edited my post! don't blame me, it's all the new mod colors! to many colors! making me a bit loopy!
Pepito
07-20-2006, 11:18 AM
I just wanted to know the rationale behind why some think Evboard in 2003 was waaaaaay much better than Evboard in 2006?I have one word for ya: Thongs.
You know it.
Shape
07-20-2006, 11:50 AM
I have one word for ya: Thongs.
& b00bs !
Shivercide
07-20-2006, 11:51 AM
I love EvBoard 2006 way better. Of course, I think I disliked the board the most in '04. It reached the peak of nonstop drama, complete insensitivity, and the type of outrageous posts/threads that are no longer allowed. Entertaining sometimes, yes, but in the end it wasn't very fun.
Lauren
07-20-2006, 11:55 AM
I think Jas said it best. Back then everyone was friends. That's part of the reason why I quit posting so much...everyone I was really close with got lost along with me in this huuuuuge sea of people.
But, I'm making an effort now. I'm trying to make a comeback.
Shape
07-20-2006, 12:00 PM
I think Jas said it best. Back then [i]everyone[/] was friends. That's part of the reason why I quit posting so much...everyone I was really close with got lost along with me in this huuuuuge sea of people.
it's all that damn eva's fault. getting all popular and stuff.
But, I'm making an effort now. I'm trying to make a comeback.
omg you're like rocky!
Lauren
07-20-2006, 12:19 PM
it's all that damn eva's fault. getting all popular and stuff.
Yeah...those bitches.
Carmen
07-20-2006, 12:30 PM
That's part of the reason why I quit posting so much...everyone I was really close with got lost along with me in this huuuuuge sea of people..
*makes a lifeboat for Lauren*
Lauren
07-20-2006, 12:41 PM
*makes a lifeboat for Lauren*
ok, now where are my oars?
chii_chan
07-20-2006, 01:45 PM
I wasn't a member of the board in '03 but I was for a few months before the crash. I actually haven't gotten to be close friends with many of any of you, which is something that I see quite a bit around here. I do think that things were a lot more close back then. Everything is so hectic and crazy around here it gets a little annoying and I can see why some people would get lost. Speaking of the *makes a pair of oars and gets a big bucket for Lauren* The bucket is just incase things start to flood again. :)
Back in 2003, I remember lurking A LOT heh, I found some ppl intimidating, so I did not bother signing up, but eventually got over it and did, There have been some good times had on evboard for me, and some periods where I resorted back to lurking for a while, the crash kinda bumbed me out because I got shot back to nublet status heh, but meh I'm still here, alive and kicking for the most part.
RedRooster
07-20-2006, 09:32 PM
I miss them too. They are useful form a mod point of view. I think I'll nag ToB about it again.
I'm not vBulletin expect but I know that there's a feature to have usernotes for members. You can make them invisible to members so only the mods will see them and add to them. We use that at another forum I visit that is also on vBulletin, I'm pretty sure it's not a hack either since the owner doesn't want to install any hacks.
DhammaSeeker
07-20-2006, 09:38 PM
Indeed, plus I understand that a warning system will be included in the base version of 3.6, so we'll wait for that version to go gold and see how it works.
Lirael
07-21-2006, 07:33 AM
Ok, for starters, RedRooster, that is the best sig/av I have ever seen...
I joined in the end of 03... I think. I'm sure when I actually hit 'Post Quick Reply" and check my join date. Either way, what ever I say is inadmissable b/c I am drunk.
The difference between 03 and 06?
The first post I ever put on any large scale messageboard was full of my personal problems at the time, and what ever place to put it in then somewhere with a tight group of 'regulars' otherwise known as the old board. One of the most interesting things I have ever read and personal to myself was what Head responded with. I can safely say that it made me feel much better for myself and highly interested in joining this little (not anymore ;)) community that had formed around a style of music that had really been unappreciated at the time.
Evanescence was never a BIG thing for me. Yeah, the music was definatly good and the reason that I came across this place, but why I stayed and attempted to join this community (there's that word again) was because the people were interesting, the drama was fun to be a part of and it gave me such an escape with people that I quickly began to trust and look forward to talking to everyday.
I literally spent every waking moment on here, either drunk, stoned or, for the rare occasion, sobre of all intoxicants. It was a place where for the first time I actually felt accepted by a fair chunk of the people that I spoke with, and gave me a diveristy of people to talk to everyday with experiences so far random from my own that it gave a GOOD opportunity to expandend my horizons and thinking.
Anyway, Evboard 03 was a place for me to 'grow up' in the online sense of the word, and also the people here helped me more then most who have had contact with me over the past can have ANY comprehension over, and to those people of 03/04 who are reading this, I say thank you EvBoard.
Today however.
I'll sum it up in one word.
Postwhores.
Ok, maybe a few more.
The lot of ya ;)
Lauren
07-21-2006, 08:12 AM
Can I be an oar, Lawren?
row row row with kait gently through the sea merrily merrily merrily merrily life is but a....post!
haha
Thanks guys :)
ToB
07-21-2006, 08:24 AM
I'm not vBulletin expect but I know that there's a feature to have usernotes for members. You can make them invisible to members so only the mods will see them and add to them. We use that at another forum I visit that is also on vBulletin, I'm pretty sure it's not a hack either since the owner doesn't want to install any hacks.
Yeah, we can do that but it requires mods to check (and update) the user notes before any action is taken.
bloodpigs
07-21-2006, 09:36 AM
after today I came to a conclusion that 03' was much friendlier.
i thought that the new members may have been overreacting with some members being rude. but now I actually see where they are coming from.
not cool
ToB
07-21-2006, 10:49 AM
after today I came to a conclusion that 03' was much friendlier.
i thought that the new members may have been overreacting with some members being rude. but now I actually see where they are coming from.
not cool
No. '03 was brutal to new people.
Also what the hell are you talking about?
Lirael
07-21-2006, 11:01 AM
ToB has a point there.
The wrath of dev was far heard of.
He was a bitch. To n00bs.
*sigh*
Chelle was a nutcase of incredible depth....
Fairy was, and to this day, one of the oddest yet most interesting people that most people will meet. .. come back...
The debate forum was ruled by a set group of people...period. They knew all.... because they were right. Some issues may not have been .... for lack of word debate-ish..(see a newly remade thread).. they were still, to this day, some of the most interesting things I have ever read.
Whine&Cheese was actually a great place to go to get some advice from people that you had some connection with and could gain from what they are saying.
Head is fucking great. Period.
The people here were second to none for me.... I think it was the same for alot of people. Somewhere to weird out when the rest of the world dragged by unsuspecting.. Tell me if I'm the only one here.
But yeh.
Many people are still here today and life constraints stop me from posting more often :/. So.....hi! :P
Kaydee.
That's right. MISTRESS OF ALL.
And the other thing about 03? IRC CHATS!
Any time, day or night... something was going on in the IRC channel.... well, everyone was talking 24/8.... and here b--bleb-t will own all.
Yeah, drunken posts rawk.
*raises fists in the air*
Long live the country over ...there! YEAH!!
ToB
07-21-2006, 11:15 AM
And the other thing about 03? IRC CHATS!
Any time, day or night... something was going on in the IRC channel.... well, everyone was talking 24/8.... and here b--bleb-t will own all.
We're all still in there buddy. Stop by sometime, you little fagot.
Lirael
07-21-2006, 11:19 AM
*dies from mental anguish*
ToB...how could you?!
DhammaSeeker
07-21-2006, 11:24 AM
Yeah, drunken posts rawk.
*raises fists in the air*
Long live the country over ...there! YEAH!!
http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/1408/lvgonzofistwv8.jpg
Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!
gilwellian
07-21-2006, 11:37 AM
*dies from mental anguish*
ToB...how could you?!
Don't take into account ToB comments which have nothing to do with the 'faggot' obsession he has these last weeks. :rolleyes:
Lirael
07-21-2006, 11:39 AM
Eh, he goes through stages of different things.
ToB, do you have any archives of the board anymore? I'd be interesting to read plus I'm sure every month you change your obsession word/phrase. :p
ToB
07-21-2006, 11:46 AM
ToB, do you have any archives of the board anymore? I'd be interesting to read plus I'm sure every month you change your obsession word/phrase. :p
This whole forum is an archive. Not much ever really gets deleted. But you could probably go to web.archive.org and see what you can find. :)
Brian
07-30-2006, 03:02 AM
I've seen this phenomenon with a couple different boards I post on. Whenever an artist is just blowing up (My experiences have been Ev '03, Vanessa Carlton '02) the people already in on the ground floor usually know each other well, have gone to a lot of shows together, etc, etc. There is really a small community feel where everyone knows everyone and all is good.
When a lot of the newer fans start coming in, a lot of people tend to feel as though the people who have been there are cliquish and don't really invite the n00bs to join the board and feel welcome. This is sometimes a perception, and sometimes it is reality. Eventually as the band becomes more popular, more new people come and they begin to outnumber the older users, the board dynamic chances. The family-like closeness tends to disappear, but in general the board thrives as a large community. You have to deal with more people posting nonsense (eg: "(insert name of lead singer here) is so hawtt!"), but in general there is a lot more offered.
My personal opinion on what sways people different ways is that some people just don't like the big board feel, others love it. I myself tend to get lost on big boards and feel more at home where I know people, etc., but you can definitely gain a lot of experience being on a big board. Obviously it is more difficult if you want to get consistent feedback to your thoughts and ideas on a large board where people have so many other posts, people, etc. to attend to, but if you post intelligently and have good thoughts, people will accept you. Even if you see them from an outsiders perspective as elitists. I recently joined a very active board, and even though it took me about 100 posts, I definitely feel like I am starting to fit in and people are paying attention to what I have to say.
I can definitely see people's point when they say they miss the the '03 Evboard. I know I do sometimes. I definitely miss the old VCMB. I don't think it is so much about the content, but the atomosphere. Content plays a part in that, but I don't think it is everything.
Sorry for the long post, I just thought this topic was interesting and I had a lot of thoughts on it. :)
Shauna
07-31-2006, 01:39 PM
I miss Evboard '03 too. Now there are a ton of people I don't recognize and the sense of community feels very different. I don't think I've posted here in over a year.
Stef
08-01-2006, 12:25 AM
In my opinion, nothing compares to the way evboard was back in 03. I joined November of 2003 i think, and i was welcomed right away and made heaps of friends. Now though, it seems like so many little "boppers" have jumped on the bandwagon, and only joined here because Amy posts here. The numbers of members here have increased so significantly, but if many people took the time so see who actually posts..we would realise most of the really well known posters have dissapeared..
Its sad in a way, to know this place has gotten so big..and somtimes unwelcoming, the sense of community has long gone.
mknell
08-01-2006, 12:34 AM
In my opinion, nothing compares to the way evboard was back in 03. I joined November of 2003 i think, and i was welcomed right away and made heaps of friends. Now though, it seems like so many little "boppers" have jumped on the bandwagon, and only joined here because Amy posts here. The numbers of members here have increased so significantly, but if many people took the time so see who actually posts..we would realise most of the really well known posters have dissapeared..
Its sad in a way, to know this place has gotten so big..and somtimes unwelcoming, the sense of community has long gone.
So very true, can't agree more
the gabe
08-03-2006, 12:15 PM
I'm not terribly familiar with EvBoard 2006, but I'll tell you why I loved EvBoard 2003. It was a home for a group of good friends. It was a message board with a personality and a group dynamic like no other. New people were welcomed... if they fit that dynamic. Otherwise, they were often strongly encouraged to move on. It was loads of fun and I got to know some wonderful people. As the board grew, the focus was more on making sure it was a place welcoming for everyone. That's great for its own sake, but I liked it better before.
Still, I'm curious to give Evboard '06 a look.
dodididodo
08-03-2006, 12:25 PM
I joined in January 2004, but I know what you guys mean by "nothing compares to the way evboard was". I used to be able to keep up with most threads, evboard was like one big happy family. I'm not saying it isn't now, afterall we're all just people with the same interests. It's just different. The people I met here have basically left this board because it got too big. To tell you the truth, I haven't been on here in ages either.
Evboard used to be simple, but amazing and awesome. Now the whole Arcade and vbPlaza confuses me. Our similarities in interests have been brought to a whole new level.
SangReal
08-03-2006, 12:31 PM
EvBoard '03 was a lot different from EvBoard '06. It was more close-knit, and far less welcoming to outsiders. And if you said or did the wrong thing, you were the subject of public mockery. But it was all in good fun :D.
I joined EvBoard in mid-'03 (maybe about March or April or something Idk) and made a big, big mistake. There was NO CHANCE of recovery from it, everybody was really mad, so I joined under another username - this one - on Halloween 2003 (right after Ben left Evanescence, but that wasn't related to the mistake I made). So yeah, people were more brutal then. I don't really remember what my old username was at all...I thought I still knew it but I couldn't find it - so it must have gotten deleted, which makes sense because I haven't posted under it for almost 3 years.
I liked EvBoard '03. It seemed like the band visited more and were more interested in what other people had to say. And it seemed way more close-knit than EvBoard '06, and there was more goofing off. There was also, if I recall, more emphasis on using the SEARCH BUTTON so that people wouldn't keep repeating the same things other people had already asked (I don't know if that really worked, but it was worth a try).
But I like EvBoard '06 as well. It's bigger, with more members, and the mods are less harsh. Seems like most reprimands are given privately rather than the public flaying people used to get. EvBoard '06 is more interested in being inclusive than EvBoard '03 was, I've noticed.
I do sometimes miss the old days, but not in the way that other people do. I wasn't particularly important or popular in the old days, so most of what I miss was actually just the sense of belonging...and the joy of ridiculing idiots. :D
dodididodo
08-03-2006, 12:37 PM
There was also, if I recall, more emphasis on using the SEARCH BUTTON so that people wouldn't keep repeating the same things other people had already asked (I don't know if that really worked, but it was worth a try).
I remember people posting "And remember: THE SEARCH BUTTON IS YOUR FRIEND! :) " in every single introduction thread. :p
bluesdealer
08-03-2006, 12:42 PM
I wasn't that active until later in '03 and haven't used Evboard much in '06, but I remember that evboard 03 was a close-knit community of people who knew how to have a good time, shared a similar sense of humor, and were united by a fascination with music from a unique band. Now, both the board and the band are different entities from what they once were, and I'm insufficiently qualified to say which is "better." I just remember that the old evboard was something I greatly enjoyed.
dai
08-03-2006, 12:55 PM
i used to lurk around these parts before finally joining in late 2003, but member or not, there was a considerable difference in how people posted on the board. like mentioned above, it seems that people are going with that trend that, `hey, amy posts there, so does the band. i'm gonna be active as hell and be all over everything because it's like .. so cool` sort of mentality. i know that it's inevitable as far as the board goes, because the band is a lot more distributed/popular than the first time around.
as far as it bothering me, personally, it doesn't so much. but how people seem to be so ready to fork into new information when it doesn't benefit the band kinda pisses me off. it's impatience at its worse.
finally coming back here in 2006 with a new perspective of the band because of the friends i've made definitely gives me a new 'vision' to look at the board at, and i have to say, it's a little freakin' insane here now. in a weird way.
BUT. being optimistic, it could be far, far, far, far, far worse.
tarbendar
08-03-2006, 03:23 PM
Omg
Beat a dead horse much eh?
I'll give ya this, everybody has their own opinions, be whatever they may be.
But I miss the old days where shit wasnt tolerated and people were treated by their age and maturity level, not how much they posted, bragged, bitched, moaned, etc. Now we coddle people like its a bunch of 4 year olds needing to be shown how to drop a deuce. Fuck that I say. Take some time, look around, learn some important info first before you post. And if you don't have the maturity or the brains to do that, well fuck you begone till you can prove otherwise. This why I don't post much. Too many people and mods being wishy washy over things that should be cut and dried. Its that simple. I personally have to make sure my posts are toned down or WATERED THE FUCK DOWN enough so as to not offend the cockmongers.
Whatever
Shape
08-03-2006, 04:42 PM
I personally have to make sure my posts are toned down or WATERED THE FUCK DOWN enough so as to not offend the cockmongers.
Whatever
tell me about it. i've had like 5 of my posts deleted just in the past week.
But I miss the old days where shit wasnt tolerated and people were treated by their age and maturity level, not how much they posted
*points to post count*
fuck u. give me fellatio.
tarbendar
08-03-2006, 05:05 PM
*points to post count*
fuck u. give me fellatio.
no twigs and berries for me son. I prefer the majestic mountains of 42DD over that any day.
you just got blown off like a cheap whore
Shape
08-03-2006, 05:07 PM
you just got blown off by a cheap whore
*fixed*
yerr, '03 evboard ftw.
maestro
08-03-2006, 07:03 PM
Two words folks ...... My Space
My Space has allowed more to connect in a more controllable and direct fasion then these (now obsolete IMHO) message boards. There will be other inventions on the net allowing new and direct ways of communicating. However the real difference between the original O board, Ev Board (thx ToB for rescuing us) and Ev Board 06 is My Space and the change it has rought.
>M
* I am teh ultimate lurker!
Rob
08-03-2006, 10:55 PM
03 ftw
message to short insert random crap here, ok done.
The end
mbmanus
08-03-2006, 11:03 PM
I think its 50/50. I myself personally like that the mods are less harsh than they used to be, as I seem to enjoy sticking my foot in the mouth, unintentionally, and its nice that the ridicules are done in private. We learned the golden rule it seems. I personally love the rep system, as it lets the person know they screwed up without dragging them through the mud. Nothing wrong with a little kindness.
My only compliant is that there are more redundant posts but honestly with this many people its bound to happen. Not too hard to see two people posting the same opinion at the same time, coincidently. Just like life, gotta take the bad with the good.
Naikuu
08-07-2006, 01:33 AM
'03 had the calih0s, a single art thread instead of a whole forum, efanar/ThePriest, AND OH WHO CAN FORGET THE WEBCAM PARTIES IN YAHOO VOICE CHAT BEFORE IRC. it was beautiful. it was amazing.
and i was there for damn near the beginning of it. i started lurking in january and joined in march. :( i miss it.
the board IQ has dropped. *sigh*
hey, sorry to offend anyone, but i really think that '06 pales in comparison to '03. that was the wonder year. lol.
anacorreal
08-07-2006, 11:46 AM
I have SO MANY good memories of Evboard 2003. In march 2003 I used to visit it sometimes until I sign up in April 2003.
I think the biggest problem right now (well not problem, just circumstance) is that back then we had... what? 3000 members? and at the end of 2005 they were 14000 or something!. It just doesn't feel like a community anymore. Just a hell of a HUGE forum where everybody posts anything. There are just so many stupid posts from people who do nothing more but to postwhore with no sense at all.
What I liked best of EvBoard back then is that was a very close community to Teh Band, and it was an entire encyclopedia of Evanescence. The latest news, little interesting details, everything was here first! (they still are of course... but let's say "media news"). I think all the posts I have in the counter are from 2003-2004 before the big crash. After that, I rarely post here.
Also, a stupid personal reason: the page is TOO slow!! xD lol. When I'm on forums, I like to surf quick through the threads and the pages, and here on evboard I have to wait a lot just to change pages. It's very annoying.
Even though It has changed, and there have been many problems between users, mods, n00bs, etc etc, I treasure evboard dearly. I still remember, and that's why I still visit from time to time. I just need time to adjust to the 2006 version ...
Rory
08-08-2006, 12:39 AM
the board IQ has dropped. *sigh*
That can only be attributed to the return of...certain members. ;)
antigone
08-08-2006, 01:18 AM
'03 was the best!! i think i joined in february and lurked for a bit before that. i was such a postwhore back then. i was ALWAYS on this board. i miss those days!!
i can't really compare it though because i haven't been here in a few years.
but i think i'll be sticking around for awhile!!!
harridan
08-09-2006, 02:31 AM
I liked the old version very much. I had an account here back in 2003 although I don't remember neither my nickname, nor the password...It was great reading all that information even without posting. Yesterday I came here again after 3 years and I was a little shocked. This place has become soooo huge! I'll need years to read everything and find what I need.
Posi
08-14-2006, 02:37 AM
'03 had the calih0s, a single art thread instead of a whole forum, efanar/ThePriest, AND OH WHO CAN FORGET THE WEBCAM PARTIES IN YAHOO VOICE CHAT BEFORE IRC. it was beautiful. it was amazing.
and i was there for damn near the beginning of it. i started lurking in january and joined in march. :( i miss it.
the board IQ has dropped. *sigh*
hey, sorry to offend anyone, but i really think that '06 pales in comparison to '03. that was the wonder year. lol.
Holy moly Naikuu!! Girl! I hope your doing great!
Those webcams were in fact awesome and lots of fun. Vulture still has plenty of embarassing screen shots. Not to get off subject though. I think in comparison the chats are probably just as entertaining. The friendships people make through EvBoard havent changed a bit. Its just now different people. And thats awesome, I think. Cause its still creating new friendships and stuff!
bloodpigs
08-14-2006, 04:37 AM
out of the random.
everyone here is so fucking lovely.
my evboard experience is gr888888
and i think the rules etc make it better
you guys are great :D
LuckyStar
08-15-2006, 09:43 PM
I wish I had been around for the Board of 03. I came here for a community, because none of my friends really listen to the band. I've only been here for a year, but I like it so far, even though I'm still slightly scared to post because some of you have been here forever. I just hope that none of you are extremely disappointed with what's become of the Board.
PS I hope I was not/am not one of the "retards". :)
cowbell
08-15-2006, 10:15 PM
Holy moly Naikuu!! Girl! I hope your doing great!
Those webcams were in fact awesome and lots of fun. Vulture still has plenty of embarassing screen shots. Not to get off subject though. I think in comparison the chats are probably just as entertaining. The friendships people make through EvBoard havent changed a bit. Its just now different people. And thats awesome, I think. Cause its still creating new friendships and stuff!
emzorlee will always be my hotelroom bed cest partner. lol. LOUD KISSER! you can't hate me though, i smell of waffle cones!
being that i joined late jan of 2004, i think i got some of the kick ass old school feel, but some of the new school as well. regardless of whether people are old or new, the friendships ive made here are priceless. i don't fly across the country to chill with just anybody, ya kno!
Kristen
08-15-2006, 11:31 PM
I am gonna go with Naikuu on this one. 06 does pale in comparison to 03. It is a bit friendlier now though, as far as it comes to welcoming people. It's just weird, I feel like a stranger posting here now. As opposed to before when it just felt comfortable from the get-go. *shrugs* Perhaps it's just because it got massively bigger or something...I dunno.
Brian
08-15-2006, 11:55 PM
I am gonna go with Naikuu on this one. 06 does pale in comparison to 03. It is a bit friendlier now though, as far as it comes to welcoming people. It's just weird, I feel like a stranger posting here now. As opposed to before when it just felt comfortable from the get-go. *shrugs* Perhaps it's just because it got massively bigger or something...I dunno.
I definitely can relate to this, although I'd say the comfortable feeling was more friendlier while now the board is more open and accepting although the friendly everyone knows everyone atmosphere isn't very prevalent.
And I'd agree in feeling like a stranger. It is moreso I post because I like Ev than because I want to hang out with people and post, because all the people I used to hang out with aren't here anymore or post when I nudge them to. lol (that said, having a board in the first place, obviously the intent is to post about the band, but that's a whole different discussion... lol)
Howie
08-22-2006, 10:29 PM
If only we can freeze that moment when it's perfect, or seems to be perfect. EvBoard has definately come a long way. =)
Kerny
08-24-2006, 05:33 PM
I only signed up about a month ago or just under, and I feel pretty comfortable posting here, it's true there is a lot of members and so you may feel like your post get's ignored or you start to feel a 'stranger' as you guys said. But it's then you find a couple of people that really do agree with an opinion you may have said among all the riff raff people may not. -if that made any sense.
My girlfriend- Carmen signed up to Evboard in 2003, and was essentially an on/off user for a while until over a ago now she made this a real full time forum of hers. So I've heard piece by piece how the place has improved in community aswel as features slowly but surely, and simply decided to join since it sounded like the board is getting more and more popular and not to mention the new Ev material comming out.
This really is the one stop shop for an Evanescence discussion board, and although I don't know what it was like all the way back in 03, I know it's come a long way here and I'm pleased I'm on it.
Oscy
08-24-2006, 06:05 PM
I was only majorly active a year ago, a lot's changed in one year. Yup. So I don't know what's changed in 3, but back then it clearly lacked Oscar.
By the way, creating nostalgia topics is somewhere near the last phase of a board before:
a) It gets taken over by n00bs.
or
b) Vets make a secret board and disappear, leading to a).
or
c) The board collapses in on itself when all of its resources are used, after becoming a 'giant', and turns into a black hole sucking all of the internet that goes into it.
I've noticed it's easier to become a mod of anything to gain ultimate POWAAAH, and also users are more uptight and are intent on starting up an internet rivalry if you neg rep them or if they're just paranoid. Humourous.
Apryl
08-24-2006, 07:14 PM
EvBoard 2003 FTW.
It's just that simple.
Diamon
08-24-2006, 07:29 PM
I was only majorly active a year ago, a lot's changed in one year. Yup. So I don't know what's changed in 3, but back then it clearly lacked Oscar.
Oh yeah *that* is why '03 was so much better ;)
Miles D
08-24-2006, 09:00 PM
Oh yeah *that* is why '03 was so much better ;)
And don't forget... Miles wasn't around either! :mrgreen:
daniel_pendry15
08-25-2006, 12:33 AM
I only joined this board in January, so I definately wouldn't know what it looked like in 2003. In my 8 months or so on here, however, I can tell it has come a long way. It seems to be growing more and more popular every day, I feel so comfortable posting here, I feel I get along well with all the members, and the moderators keep it safe. There has also been more features added ot the board since I've been on here, such as the arcade, the bank, the points, the chatroom, etc. EvBoard is the only message board I post on because it is so reliable for everything on Evanescence and it is essentially the only way I communicate with other people.
Michelle
09-07-2006, 11:05 PM
Chelle was a nutcase of incredible depth....
I resent that, you whore. How dare you use past tense!
Hollee Ann
09-08-2006, 12:24 AM
yea yea i know i'm gettin to this late, but i'm really bored and this was just calling my name
evboard 03 was a lot less tolerable of n00bs. now i can understand why that is with me being a senior member and all. i lurked quite a bit in 03, and never really wanted to join because it seemed that the members that were already here, including the mod and admin teams, were already so close and had all these inside things going on. i really didn't feel like i would ever be able to make a noticeable presence on the board. when i finally did decide to join, i posted here and there, never really looking in depth into any threads. now that i have been here nearly 2 and a half years (i think that's it anyway), i feel like it is a much more welcome place. granted there are a lot of n00bs who post a lot of BS just to get their 20 characters and maybe Amy will read them. i honestly respect you mods and admins SO DAMN MUCH now. seeing what you all have to deal with every day, i totally respect you and think that you do an amazing job here.
i've noticed that people (not necessarily n00bs) are taking things a lot more personally these days. you neg rep someone or make a simple argument in your opinion, and there is a 20 page battle over it (ie, ToD discussion ll), which is hard to deal with and may run some people off.
but in my own little world, i have grown to LOVE this place and consider quite a few people here as friendly faces i can turn to if one of the big bad mods (*coughKatya;) cough*) gets on my case.
*locks arms with everyone and sways* we are familyyyy
share a piece of chicken with me!
bluesdealer
09-17-2006, 04:48 PM
Geez; this thread really brought some people out of the woodwork. :eek:
Miles D
09-17-2006, 07:03 PM
Geez; this thread really brought some people out of the woodwork. :eek: It did indeed! And the fact that they're posting again after 1, 2, 3 years away is good, healthy progress. :)