*crickets*


Well for the one or two of you who DID manage to catch a few eps of Joss Whedon's other other show before it was unmercifully axed by the FOX network, you might be interested by THIS:

http://www.serenitymovie.com/

I only saw it once and I didnt really like it (not like I did Lexx or Farscape or hell Andromeda is better). Maybe they should have done what Andromeda and start airing it on Sci-Fi and keep it alive. Since Andromeda was going nowhere before uit was on sci-fi...and well I asusme it's still going nowhere just at a bigger scale.

I never saw it. We didn't get it in Australia. Otherwise I would've watched it. I fricking love Joss. I'd see the movie.

It takes awhile to kick in but it was a great show. Get the DVD's. By episode 5 you'll be hooked.

My husband and I watched it and I gave it a longer trial than I usually do to new shows because of Joss! We enjoyed it and would have liked to see more but of course Fox is famous for giving one season to a show then canning it...We enjoyed John Doe too and were sad when that didn't come back!

A movie would be interesting and I would certainly give it a try!

AmyBeth :)

We didn't get it over here either, so I never saw it. :(
Wanted to though.

This has along with Freaks and Geeks are among my favorite shows ever! Both of them are funny, touching and just overall well written. I'm very looking forward to the movie.

Also, Fox blows.

OK so this thread is over a year old. I'm doing the "thread necromancy" thing because I just saw Firefly for the "first" time last week. I had seen bits and pieces when it first aired but never paid much attention to it. I was encouraged by someone else to give it another chance. So when the SciFi channel aired it I scoped it out.

For the record I do NOT like Joss Whedon. I hated Alien Resurrection, yawned through most of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and I have less than no interest in Angel. Even having said that, I gotta grudgeingly admit I LIKE Firefly. This is a smart show. There's a lot of detail and a lot of thought went into this show. Also it's a refreshing change from Star Trek-esque space opera where there's a lot of science fiction cliches. SciFi channel is airing it Friday evenings so if you have a chance to scope it out, do so.

Hmm, good thing I searched before posting my own thread, hah.

I first heard about this movie/TV series through the trailer played with Batman Begins... Not knowing anything about the show, I was extremely highly interested because the trailer looked so kickass. That, and I was a pretty big fan of Angel, and early Buffy. So, that was that for a while.

Then I went and stayed at my brother's house and on top of the TV I see a DVD box entitled "Firefly." Intrigued I look at it and realize it was the show Serenity is based on.

Needless to say I was extremely psyched. So, I watched it and was absolutely HOOKED!! I watched all of the episodes in a day. This is easily one of the best shows I've ever watched.

Basically, I can't can't can't WAIT to see this movie. I'm hoping with the release of the movie the series will be picked up again and continued. I know SciFi was airing the show, but it only seemed to be the reruns. Hopefully they'll go the way of Sliders and whatnot and continue the show.

That would be so very awesome!


Oh, and, /bump, haha

Contrary to my previous post, we actually did get Firefly in Australia but I still never got around to watching it because it was on at some stupid time and I’d always forget but I’m planning on getting the DVDs and checking out the series. I’m sure it’d be great, Joss is God after all. I’m excited about the movie too.

Very much LOVED this show when it was on tv and was super pissed when it was cancelled... Was one of the many people who went out and bought the series when it came out on DVD which helped sell the Serenity movie to the studio. Great show, with fantastic characters. Overall very enjoyable to watch and i've probably watched the DVD's at least 3 or 4 times now... Serenity, i hope will be just as great as Firefly and though i know not to get my hopes up, maybe, just maybe it'll revive the tv series...

I actually like several things about this show. There are no aliens for one thing. Aliens have become kinda a crutch among science fiction writers for television. Also no "magic" technology. Ok so they have starships and such other advanced trappings of science fiction but nothing that blatantly defies the known laws of physics. They have a slightly different way of speaking too and that appeals to me.

Probably the best thing I like about this show is that it's evocative of a completely different time. Too often science fiction tries too hard to be "relevant" by putting contemporary situations almost literally into a fantastic setting. Star Trek did this frequently. One noteworthy example was the TOS episode "A Private Little War." It was a fable about the Viet Nam war with the Feds as the U.S. and the Klingons as the Soviets and the indigenous people as the North and South Vietnamese. I, for one, kinda get tired of being bludgeoned over the head with the writers' "lesson" and Firefly apparently steers well clear of doing that. I like that. I watch and read science fiction to go to a completely different "place" than where I live now. If I want "today" then I can turn on the news.

My roommate bought the first season on DVD. I've watched the pilot and the first three episodes, and I love the show. Can't wait to watch the rest and can't wait for the movie.

You'll love the show. It's the perfect mix of action, suspense, drama, everything that makes a show enjoyable. And the actors work absolutely perfectly together. That's why it's such a great thing it's the original cast doing the movie.

And about the movie, I did a little reading last night. It seems the cast is signed on to do two more sequals after this movie. Hopefully we'll get to see them.

Also, apparently the test screenings have all been going very well. So, that doesnt do anything to help my anticipation for the movie.

Okay, figured I'd give this a bumb since the movie, Serenity was released this week.

And in my opinion, Fan-fucking-tastic! Not sure how it'll appeal to those who havent seen the show, but it does a good job of explaining the basics, so they won't be left completely in the dark.

The story is so much more epic than anything in the series, but it still works really well. The dynamic of the cast is what really makes the movie though, for a show that didn't even last one season before it was cancelled, they have far better chemistry than most anything else.

Certain things that happen will also have much more of an emotional jolt for fans too. But as said, everything works just really well. It's great action, funny and fun.

Also, The Operative is a fantastic villain. He's played as someone who is cold yet has no delusions about what he does. He knows he's a monster who has no place in the ideal world he believes himself to be working for.

I need to see this again.

Wow Serenity was amazing, MUCH MUCH MUCH better than Firefly. You dont even need to know what Firefly is to enjoy and understand Serenity. This is the kind of movie that makes me glad I work at a movie theatre.

I never saw "Firefly" the TV series. That being said, I really, REALLY enjoyed "Serenity". Very kick ass movie.

I didn't know a little girl could kick so much ass. The movie had everything: Zombie space monsters, psychic powers, totalitarian government, a dogfight, many planetary visits.

I need to see this again so I understand it better (the dialog is a bit hard to understand at first, but once I got used to it, it made better sense... they talk in much more formal casual than I'm used to).

So in closing, Miles D says go see this movie. :)

There's a Firefly thread? Dear lord, I'm slow.

Anyway, on Labour Day, Space played a 23 hour Joss-a-thon, which gave me the chance to tape the Firefly series, and watch most of it. I looooooove it. I can't wait to watch the final 4 episodes when I get the chance.

And, pfffft to me, because I haven't seen Serenity yet. What a terrible Joss fan I am :(

I missed Firefly when it aired originally but just recently watched the whole series via Netflix. Fantastic show, hope Serenity makes enuf money to generate network interest in reviving the series :) Seeing Serenity tomorrow, can't wait :)

I love the setting of Firefly, basically a western really but that's what it should be for a series set in the frontier of a galactic empire. Much more believable to me than the Star Wars or Trek universes....Frontier planets would be much like the old West rather than always having the high tech.

Anyway looking forward to the movie tomorrow, will drop back with my review :)

Well it was number 2 at the box office over the weekend, in all honesty that's higher than I was expecting.

Came in with about $10.1 million. Which is about a third of it's budget. There is still possibility of word of mouth keeping it going and then of course there's the DVD sales. But for a cast of unknowns, a first time movie director and being based off of a cancelled TV show, I'd say it did fairly well. And from what I've heard, a sequel has infact been given the go ahead.

I already went and saw this twice over the weekend, and plan to see it at least three more times. And you should too! heh.

:)

Good to hear that it's doing well and that the sequel is already on the go. I'm actually watching the series again, for probably the 6th time on DVD. Haven't seen the movie yet, caz, well, I just haven't had the time. I plan on going on my next set of days off though. Can't wait. :D Also been reading that most people who have seen it, whether they have a history with the show or not, have really enjoyed it. Good news.

I just saw the movie tonight and I loved it so much. It was everything I hoped it would be :)
I thought there would be a more complex storyline, but I loved what they came up with.
The only thing I missed was wanting the 'hands of blue' guys to somehow fit into it. They weren't really explained much in the series.

River is one of my favourite characters ever. I want to see it again, and really hope they make a sequel.

Actually, the "Hands of blue" guys were in the movie, though for a very extremely brief moment. It's right after Simon frees River and she senses that they already know she's free. In that quick cut-scene that goes to the guys watching video monitors, those are the hands of blue guys.

i loved firefly and was lucky enough to meet and have photo's with some of the cast - nathan fillion (capt mal reynolds), summer glau (river) & jewel staite (kaylee). i've been waiting for the movie for aaagges. it looks really good and looks like it has alot of humour in it as well.

Personally, I think this is one of the best movies of the year. It deserves so much more success than others.

Just to clarify, Serenity came second to Flightplan in the box office. Serenity was playing on about 2,700 screens while Flightplan had over 3,000 screens. Serenity made more money per screen that Flightplan did. Flightplan just had more screens and that's why it's still on top.

Another clarification: I'm almost positive that a sequel has yet to be greenlit. Previous reports said that Serenity has to make a total profit of 60-80 million world wide to be considered for a sequel. I think this includes dvd sales as well as ticket sales.

I love Firefly and think Serenity is such a wonderful continuation to the series. I've seen it three times already and I've taken as many friends with me as I could everytime. Only one of those friends had seen and loved Firefly. The rest of my friends had never even heard of the show. Some of them had never even seen a trailer for Serenity. Every single one of my friends loves this movie.

One more thing: *Raises middle finger* Fuck you, FOX!

Joss = GOD.

I've never seen Firefly, but keep hearing about how awesome it was, so I think I need to buy a DVD set soon. Also, Serenity looks like a fantastic movie, and I wanna catch up before I see it.

Joss = GOD.

I've never seen Firefly, but keep hearing about how awesome it was, so I think I need to buy a DVD set soon. Also, Serenity looks like a fantastic movie, and I wanna catch up before I see it.

I think you'd be able to follow it well enough without seeing Firefly, but I think people will appreciate it much much more if they are familiar with the series before seeing the movie.

I have to concur with Bloodred on this one. I believe you can see this without having seen the show and understand it, and enjoy it, but the fans who've seen the show, followed it, will enjoy it so much more. Just got back from seeing it and i thought it was fantastic. Very much in line with the show, and just as good.

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I cannot BELIEVE they killed off Wash!!!!!!!!! I'm down right sad over here... Wash ruled, and now he's gone! Book, i can understand, and take, though his story would have been nice to know in much more detail as he was pretty damn cool too.

I have to concur with Bloodred on this one. I believe you can see this without having seen the show and understand it, and enjoy it, but the fans who've seen the show, followed it, will enjoy it so much more. Just got back from seeing it and i thought it was fantastic. Very much in line with the show, and just as good.

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I cannot BELIEVE they killed off Wash!!!!!!!!! I'm down right sad over here... Wash ruled, and now he's gone! Book, i can understand, and take, though his story would have been nice to know in much more detail as he was pretty damn cool too.

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From what I heard Alan (the guy who played Wash) asked to have himself killed off in the second series (which they never got around to) and Joss did it in the film instead.

I am a leaf on the wind, watch me........*dies*

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From what I heard Alan (the guy who played Wash) asked to have himself killed off in the second series (which they never got around to) and Joss did it in the film instead. I am a leaf on the wind, watch me........*dies*

Really? Hmmm, I wonder why. I always was under the impression that they were such a tight knit group, in the show and outside of it. Oh well, it still really sucks.

PS. Red Dwarf RULES!

Serenity was screwed from the start when it comes to money. I love this 'verse, one of the greatest ever created, but the fact is, that when people hear that a movie is based on a cancelled TV series, they think, "Nah." It sucks, the execs at FOX should be fired - with actual fire. At least fire them from a fry-cook opportunity.;)

BTW, what would you guys think if there was and action game made, faithfully chronicalling the Unification War?

i still havent seen Serenity yet, grrr. i loved Firefly but when i was about to go and see Serenity it wasn't on, no fare :(

Why was this show cancelled?! I missed it in 2002, but my brother gave me the DVDs and now I'm an addict... only there's no more of the drug to be had (I watched the final episode yesterday). So yeah, I'm definately a Browncoat now. This series should be revived; surely some network sees the potential here in the midst of a mediocre era of television! Or maybe nobody understands a category-defying series that doesn't rely on shallow genre gimmicks but actually uses character building and a solid plot for its meat. Who knows?
I loved how at the end of episode 14, when the bounty hunter is stranded, floating through space, he's like "Well, here I am." It's a fitting metaphor for this series and how FOX double crossed it. As Mal said, "Next time, stab me in the front."

Here's why Firefly was cancelled.

- FOX thought that the pilot had too much exposition, and forced Joss to start the series with 'The Train Job', which had more action, but didn't explain the 'verse as well.
- In addition to not showing the pilot 'Serenity' (yes, it has the same name as the film), FOX broadcasted the episodes in a partially incorrect order, and didn't even air Eps 11 (Trash), 12 (The Message) and 13 (Heart of Gold). The DVD set has all episodes, in the order that Joss originally intended.
- As well as this, Firefly was continuously moved, pre-empted for baseball games, and stuck on Friday, well known as the 'death slot' due to most people being out on Friday. Thus, even the few who caught on to the show had difficulty even finding it on the schedules.

All this plus some bad marketing. Serenity the film was only made due to the gigantic sale that Firefly made on DVD (500,000 copies sold before Serenity was even greenlit).

And that's how it was. For more Firefly/Serenity, buy the graphic novel that bridges the show and film.

Here's why Firefly was cancelled.

- FOX thought that the pilot had too much exposition, and forced Joss to start the series with 'The Train Job', which had more action, but didn't explain the 'verse as well.
- In addition to not showing the pilot 'Serenity' (yes, it has the same name as the film), FOX broadcasted the episodes in a partially incorrect order, and didn't even air Eps 11 (Trash), 12 (The Message) and 13 (Heart of Gold). The DVD set has all episodes, in the order that Joss originally intended.
- As well as this, Firefly was continuously moved, pre-empted for baseball games, and stuck on Friday, well known as the 'death slot' due to most people being out on Friday. Thus, even the few who caught on to the show had difficulty even finding it on the schedules.

All this plus some bad marketing. Serenity the film was only made due to the gigantic sale that Firefly made on DVD (500,000 copies sold before Serenity was even greenlit).

And that's how it was. For more Firefly/Serenity, buy the graphic novel that bridges the show and film.
But why squash it in mid-season? They should've at least given it a fair go 'round. Also, from what I understand, the ratings weren't bad and the critics loved Firefly. Plus, every show gets moved because baseball, football, or basketball games. I also don't understand why no network has picked the series up since the huge resurge in popularity.

But why squash it in mid-season? They should've at least given it a fair go 'round. Also, from what I understand, the ratings weren't bad and the critics loved Firefly. Plus, every show gets moved because baseball, football, or basketball games. I also don't understand why no network has picked the series up since the huge resurge in popularity.

Basically, FOX executives are morons. That's about all there is to it - they don't understand good shows, and all they care about is money. Incidentally, this is why reality TV has proved to be as hard to kill as a cockroach - it's very cheap to produce. Compare Friends, where the stars were getting several hundred grand for each episode, to Big Brother, which needs only supplies for the housmates, and a single $1,000,000 prize at the end of the entire season. Firefly also had a high budget, which is easy to see - look at the high-quality CGI, as well as the various sets. Hell, when you have a travelling group of characters, you need a lot of sets. Imagine the cost of making the hospital set on Ariel - and that was just for one episode.

In the words of FOX - "Who cares if it's crap or not - we want cash!"

i loved firefly i came into the series with the movie and watched the episodes on cable. i love simon so nerdy and pompus in his clothes.
yeah i named myself after river cause she is cool.
my best friend had the dvd set.

Basically, FOX executives are morons. That's about all there is to it - they don't understand good shows, and all they care about is money. Incidentally, this is why reality TV has proved to be as hard to kill as a cockroach - it's very cheap to produce. Compare Friends, where the stars were getting several hundred grand for each episode, to Big Brother, which needs only supplies for the housmates, and a single $1,000,000 prize at the end of the entire season. Firefly also had a high budget, which is easy to see - look at the high-quality CGI, as well as the various sets. Hell, when you have a travelling group of characters, you need a lot of sets. Imagine the cost of making the hospital set on Ariel - and that was just for one episode.

In the words of FOX - "Who cares if it's crap or not - we want cash!"
I still don't see the logic in it, though. Most networks are focused on money; it's what drives everything. But FOX hasn't thrown everything out that's not reality or animated (Simpsons, Family Guy). I mean, while a powerhouse like 24 isn't going anywhere, how much are they making off of Bones?! I saw one episode of that show and just had one question: "Why, God? Why?!"

From E-Online:

Kristin_Veitch replies: I've heard the CW is *considering* bringing it back as a series, miniseries or movie for next season. Hurrah! For you who missed my message board posting, on Tuesday, Nate Fillion, Summer Glau and Gina Torres coming out of one of the exec buildings at Paramount where they are putting together the new CW unit.

The above is in the middle of the page, Just CTRL f and search firefly

http://www.eonline.com/Insider/Boards/thread.jspa?threadID=13312&tstart=30

And if any of you are also Battlestar Gallactica fans...

In the original pilot and in several episodes of the new Battlestar Galactica, amongst the various ships of the fleet, you'll occasionally spot the Firefly Class ship, "Serenity" from the Joss Whedon TV show "Firefly". The agency which handles the optical effects for BSG is the same as "Firefly"'s and no doiubt wound up there aa their own little tribute.

http://www.eeggs.com/items/44597.html

That's really cool about Battlestar's tribute to Firefly. I never really got into that show (battlestar galactica, although alot people did), but that gives me more respect for its creators.
By the way, a Firefly revival would make me start watching TV again for something other than football or basketball. The funny thing is, the only other show that could do that would be Angel... too bad they have the same creative genius behind them.

edit: I just read that post and it mentioned a Serenity movie sequel.
While that would be great, I think a series revival would be much better. Joss Whedon really shines when it comes to series'; he builds great characters, develops them instead of leaving them static, and actually progresses a plot.
I noticed this with Angel, but MUCH more so with Firefly. There was definately a compelling plot forming in the mere 14 episodes that were created.
Heck, I wanted to find out more about the whole "Two by two, hands of blue" thing. Those guys creeped me out!
edit #2: I just did some digging and found this interview to further confirm the possiblitiy of a continuation (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=17800).
"As long as I was able to service the characters with integrity and had enough money so that I wasn't hampered, then I would love to return Serenity to TV. I love that universe; it continues and those characters live on. There could be a series, there could be a miniseries, there could be all sorts of things. I'm not ruling anything out. I'll let it simmer for a while and see if anyone calls."

Also, there is a sort of conspiracy theory that FOX was biased against Firefly due to its overt anti-corporation elements, and wanted to get rid of it. FOX is apparently very right-wing, and may well tend to push right-wing views in much the same fashion as the Alliance pushes its conformism.

Also, there is a sort of conspiracy theory that FOX was biased against Firefly due to its overt anti-corporation elements, and wanted to get rid of it. FOX is apparently very right-wing, and may well tend to push right-wing views in much the same fashion as the Alliance pushes its conformism. Say whaaaa? Come on, libertarianism falls under right wing, too. Global corporations are hardly a "right wing" thing. Plus, I would hardly call shows like Family Guy and The Simpsons (which poke fun at traditional families and religion, but I are still great shows) pro - conservative.
On a politcal note, I think the problem that massive corporations pose was brought on more by left wing ideologies than right. I mean, by over-centralizing government, power is stripped from state and local governments. Do you really think massive corporations would have spread so easily, trampling small businesses in their wake, if local governments had any substantial amount of power.
Wow, haha. Sorry about the rant; I certainly don't want to turn this into any kind of politcal debate. I just find it highly unlikely that a network would cancel a show because they disagreed with its take on issues. I'm sure you know this, but the Browncoats are inspired by the Confederates after the Civil War. The whole message was yes, maybe your ways are more sophisticated than ours, but you still have no right to push us around. Seems pretty conservative to me.

I never said liberals aren't pushy as well. But all things considered, conservatives are hardly the types you describe. Some (note I say some, not all) American right-wing types are the sort who say things like, "Do what we say, or you're not a real American." Or at least, as an Aussie, that's what I've been led to believe. Its kind of like with Vietnam, and all the anti-communist propaganda, and all the little teenagers swallowed it all, wanting to be 'true Americans', and got their limbs shot off. Watch 'Born on the Fourth of July' for an example.

But like I said, this is a conspiracy theory, and the jury is still out. The right-wing FOX thing is more due to their news programs - apparently, there's a doco called 'Outfoxed' that exposes their right-wing predjudices. I'll have to find it.

am i the only one who hated the theme tune? it was catchy true, but then so are sti's.

its a pity they killed book in the film, cause i really wanted to learn his past. or if they were trying to hint in the film that he was originally an assassin. perhaps if they make a new film they could go into it.

I never said liberals aren't pushy as well. But all things considered, conservatives are hardly the types you describe. Some (note I say some, not all) American right-wing types are the sort who say things like, "Do what we say, or you're not a real American." Or at least, as an Aussie, that's what I've been led to believe. Its kind of like with Vietnam, and all the anti-communist propaganda, and all the little teenagers swallowed it all, wanting to be 'true Americans', and got their limbs shot off. Watch 'Born on the Fourth of July' for an example.

But like I said, this is a conspiracy theory, and the jury is still out. The right-wing FOX thing is more due to their news programs - apparently, there's a doco called 'Outfoxed' that exposes their right-wing predjudices. I'll have to find it.
A libertarian is what I described. Also, if you research it, you'll find that left wing ideology supports government centralization. I think you're getting your definition of conservativism from GW Bush... not good. Bush is not a conservative and has never claimed to be. He may support Republican ideals, but invading two countries, overthrowing two governments, massively cutting taxes, and completely overhauling social security (still in the works), among other many things he's still trying to get accomplished (like eliminate America's dependency on oil as an energy source), are harldy the actions of a conservative.

I'm not unfamiliar with what people say about Fox News. Yes, it has more conservative columnists that other stations (but they also have liberal ones, as well), but you have to separate the actual news from the people paid to give their opinion. The news is balanced, the opinions are mostly conservative, though not exclusively. This is because before Fox news came along, every major news program (CNN, CBS, namely) had heavy leftist slants. Fox News is the supply for the conservative public demand for an alternative perspective. True fair an balanced journalism doesn't exist, but I think people should at least have a variety of perspectives; something that wasn't offered before Fox News.
As for the Fox network having a right wing slant, in general: once again, look at their other tv shows. I just don't see the propaganda in Family Guy (which the most retarded, yet funniest show ever made).
am i the only one who hated the theme tune? it was catchy true, but then so are sti's.

its a pity they killed book in the film, cause i really wanted to learn his past. or if they were trying to hint in the film that he was originally an assassin. perhaps if they make a new film they could go into it.
He had requested to be killed off in the second season, so Joss did it in the movie.
Haha, what's wrong the theme song? ;-) I think it fits the show; It has a frontier-like, homey feel to it. (Although slide guitar wasn't invented until the early 20th century and this series is supposed to be inspired by the post-Civil War Confederates) It's not the best piece of writing ever (Joss Whedon wrote it, and perhaps he's better as a director), but it fits.

(which the most retarded, yet funniest show ever made).
IAW blue.

And on your other points too. I watch FOX news simply for the fact every other cable and news network is so heavily slanted to the left. FOX may slant to the right(the only one that does) but I hear liberal points of view on it all the time.

apparently, there's a doco called 'Outfoxed' that exposes their right-wing predjudices.
Which was made by people with left-wing predjudices.

Well...political consiparacies or not. Fox pretty much did what they could to get the show knocked off the air. Including airing the second episode (The Train Job) as the pilot. Because the original was deemed too 'talky'. Airing the episodes out of order (go look at the original air dates), the original plot was essentially aired as the series finale, and there were three episodes that went unaired (Trash, The Message and Heart of Gold).

The same thing, to varying degrees, also happened to Futurama.

*edit* And being the uber-perceptive person I am. I just noticed that camdbz251 laid out the reasons already. Oops.

Remember, I don't claim to know all about this stuff as blunt fact. I do live in Oz, so I obviously wouldn't know as much about this. I plan to go to America at some point (I'm an aspiring scriptwriter), so I will spend more time inspecting the politics. Still, out discussion comes down to this - Firefly was never given the chance that it should have been given.

Ok I want to see "Serenity" but from what people tell me you can't really appreciate the movie until you see the whole Firefly series. I caught a few episodes on SciFi, but not enough to catch the whole aspect of the series.:)
Now I loved Farscape, and I love SG-1, Atlantis and Battlestar Galactica. ;) So putting that down, can anyone give me just a brief synapse of the story behind the series of Firefly. PM me with that so not to take up space.

What I got so far is that it's like a SciFi/Western and similar to Farscape, they're all traveling together out of neccesity. That caught my eye, giving me reason to watch because I love the concept of a Western/SciFi. Hence why I loved the series of Trigun(anime).:D

Ok I want to see "Serenity" but from what people tell me you can't really appreciate the movie until you see the whole Firefly series. I caught a few episodes on SciFi, but not enough to catch the whole aspect of the series.:)

This is very true. I am one of those unfortunate souls who saw Serenity before seeing/hearing about Firefly. And I admit I wasn't really 100% hooked in by the movie when I first saw it. Interesting charachters but I didn't really know them so the film didn't really have that emotional residence. But it made me very curious to see what this story was about and who those characters were before Serenity, thus I rented the entire series. And I have to say, the TV series is amazing. I only wish I had watched the series first before the film and I strongly strongly suggest for you to do so. Watching the movie after watching the series... it was a completly different experience and I appreciate it alot more.

Seriously, after watching the Firefly TV series, you start to notice... how bad all other tv shows are. I'm quite serious. Firefly was actual proof that you could have a Tv show about a group of people and not have the same thing every episode - a basic formula, uninteresting camera shots, no charachter development, the monotany of sitcoms... The list could go on.

But yes. I suggest you go out and buy the series and watch it first. Buy it, you don't even need to rent it, just buy it it's worth it. THEN you can watch Serenity and it'll be like what the recent Star Wars films should of been.

im going to agree and disagree with PossessedByTheSquirrels

This is very true. I am one of those unfortunate souls who saw Serenity before seeing/hearing about Firefly. And I admit I wasn't really 100% hooked in by the movie when I first saw it. Interesting charachters but I didn't really know them so the film didn't really have that emotional residence. But it made me very curious to see what this story was about and who those characters were before Serenity

i saw the movie before i saw the tv show and i was hooked. i wanted to know who the characters were and what their relationships were though i was able to slowly piece it together as the film ran. i big fan of joss whedon's works (buffy no.1) and firefly/serenity no exception...
the movie was designed for both tv fans and newcomers as there was changes to certain story lines that was introduced in the tv show (rescue of river eg.)

i watched after the movie majority of the tv series on cable and loved the show probably even more then what i would have. i knew more of the characters from the movie. i would not say i am an unforunate soul. but then i have a habit of comming into tv shows after they have started (buffy last 2 episodes of season 5 on cable) so i have kind of learnt to adjust to unknown characters.

i think watching the movie again i would find some of the outcomes sad as i have grown to like a lot of the characters. (not hard guess 1 of my favs.). i found wash's death sad even though i hadn't seen the tv show.

overall firefly/serenity is brilliant no matter what order you watch it in.

I saw the movie first, but I had managed to catch a couple of Firefly episodes on the Sci-Fi channel when they were re-airing them. It's a good movie whether or not you've seen the series, but if you're to watch both, it's best to watch the series first.
Has anybody heard anymore about the rumor that CW might revive Firefly? That rumor has been feeding my over-optimistic hope in spite of my better judgement, so I need to know!!! haha

I, also, saw the movie first, but I. LOVED. IT. Everything about Serenity was amazing.

And, because of the movie, I watched the entrie series and fell into complete lust. River is my new goddess.

And I agree - when you watch a Whedon show, you realize that all other TV just...sucks. Nothing is as imaginative, funny, and smart as something created by Joss Whedon.

Well, almost nothing. You have to give Stargate its credit, hah.


I'm still working on getting my own copy of the DVD set, just gotta get that money that's always a requirement.

And, because of the movie, I watched the entrie series and fell into complete lust. River is my new goddess.

And I agree - when you watch a Whedon show, you realize that all other TV just...sucks. Nothing is as imaginative, funny, and smart as something created by Joss Whedon.
River is incredible :)
I loved her the moment they revealed her in the first episode. She's so funny and crazy and I feel so bad for her when she's sad.
Her big reveal at the climax of the movie blew me away.

Out of all Joss' shows she's definitely my favourite character.

I'm halfway through reading the Serenity novel right now and I'm really liking it. Of course, I've memorised pretty much all of the dialogue haha, but some extra stuff has been written in.
I like how it goes into more detail of what the characters are thinking during certain scenes, and keeps referring back to things that happened in the series.
Also, it's interesting how the events are placed in a slightly different order from the movie.

so i know this thread has been unused for awhile...
but i have a question with the special features a few websites were mentioned i was only able to get the addy for can't stop the signal only when searching i couldn't find it and references was made that the cast members and joss would post. if anyone could help me it woul mean much gratitude.
thanks all firefly fans.
*fingers crossed* for more wonderful tales of the firefly verse or anything else joss creates

Well, firstly, I need to know how to show you guys a digital photo of nearly 1 MEG. Please help!

River is incredible :)
Out of all Joss' shows she's definitely my favourite character.
Yeah, a psycho-crazy, mentally unstable, geneous, super-powered, adolescent girl makes for a pretty interesting character, haha.

You know what's cool about that part in the movie? *spoiler warning* Listen to River's theme throughout the whole movie. It's a mix of minor keyed and dissonant, atonal stuff. Then listen to the part on Miranda when she says, "I'm alright." It resolves to a fullfilled souding, major chord. Then, on the part where she goes postal on the Reavers, it's in Phrygian dominant, a mode that sort of combines characteristics of major and minor (to me it has the "power" of a minor key with the "beauty" of a major key), so it's like she's come together. Very cool.

And Summer Glau is an amazing actress. I recently met her at the Supanova convention, and after seeing how kind, witty and not like River she is, I'll appreciate her performance even more.

Also, she said that she knows Book's secret, but she didn't tell us.:mad: ;)

Once upon a time my friend Steve told me about a Joss Whedon show called Firefly. I hated Angel and Buffy so my first thought was, "Yawn." Then he described it as a western science fiction. As I hate westerns with a burning passion I wondered why he wasted the oxygen required to tell me about this show.

Then I saw a preview for Serenity and said, "That seems familiar." After seeing Serenity I continually hounded my friend Steve to let me borrow his Firefly DVDs so that I could get my Mal fix. And he rejected me everytime. So on a sojourn to Hastings not too long ago I convinced my husband to buy Firefly.

I am in love with the show and I can't believe it was cancelled. Maybe everyone in the world just had friends like Steve who suck at describing cool things or maybe the world is just lamer than I thought.

I'd go with the "world is just lamer than we thought" option.

Hopefully the movie did well enough to warrant the production of sequals. Joss has said he'd like to make a movie for each of the seasons he had planned.

On a side note, Nathan Fillion(sp?) showed up in a show I was watching a bit ago. But now I can't remember what show it was. >< I still need to work on getting my own copy of the DVD set.

I'd go with the "world is just lamer than we thought" option.

Hopefully the movie did well enough to warrant the production of sequals. Joss has said he'd like to make a movie for each of the seasons he had planned.
You're probably right. I mean, the world can't be full of Steves. :p

I would prefer that Firefly get started back up to more movies but I'll take what I can get!

Also, she said that she knows Book's secret, but she didn't tell us.:mad: ;)

I have a couple of theories regarding Book's secret.

1. Book is an Alliance war veteran. Hence the special treatment, and his knowledge of firearms and other neat stuff.
2. Now, this was a little tidbit from my boyfriend - he seems to think Book is a protector of the Alliance. Not only Book, but all Shepards. They get to choose a special field in which they want to specialize in, and train for that field.

Neat, huh?

2. Now, this was a little tidbit from my boyfriend - he seems to think Book is a protector of the Alliance. Not only Book, but all Shepards. They get to choose a special field in which they want to specialize in, and train for that field.

That doesn't seem likely. Otherwise, when the bounty hunter infiltrates Serenity on the last episode, he wouldn't have said, "Shepherd? He's no shepherd." That shows that Book is something else besides your average preacher. Also, that wouldn't explain why he avoids violence, even at the expense of saving lives. Your first idea is probably very close; it seems like Joss was hinting at something along those lines throughout the series.

edit: I was thinking more along the lines of an assassin; kind of like the alliance was training River for (before they decided she would make a good superweapon), and who The Operative in "Serenity" was, but Book's faith (as is sort of his theme throughout the series/movie) became his vehicle for changing his ways... and maybe he took some kind of vow to never commit a violent act, even if he believed it to be justified (remember, The Operative in "Serenity" believed he was doing the "right" thing).
That would have provided an interesting contrast of characters:
The Operative: successful product of the Alliance
River: failed product of the Alliance
Book: successful product of the Alliance, but found a means to change

It's all just speculation, and I'm sure that Joss had something MUCH more interesting and complex in store (because he likes to make things appear one way, then through complete curveballs), but we may never know. :(

I always got the impression that Book used to be an Operative too.
I think there was something he says to Mal in the movie that suggests he knows a lot about what an Operative is.

And I don't know if this is even canon or not, but if you've read the Serenity novel, it goes into the scene where Haven is attacked and the Operative comes down to kill Book and seems to know him from somewhere.