I read this and thought of Even in Death. But you know, that is a little weird. Well I think it is. So, should a person be allowed, under law, to marry a deceased loved one?

Bride and widow in single ceremony

Tuesday, February 10, 2004 Posted: 9:43 PM EST (0243 GMT)

NICE, France (AP) -- Dressed in a demure black suit, a 35-year-old Frenchwoman has married her dead boyfriend, an exchange of vows that required authorization from President Jacques Chirac.

Under French law, Christelle Demichel became both bride and widow in the ceremony, which was performed Tuesday at Nice City Hall on the French Riviera.

The groom, a former policeman identified as Eric, was killed by a drunk driver in September 2002.

Demichel told LCI television she understood "it could seem shocking to marry someone who is dead," but her feelings for him had not dimmed. His body was not present for the ceremony.

Such marriages are legal if the living spouse can prove the couple had intended to marry before the other died. The French president must also authorize it.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/02/10/france.marriage.ap/index.html

"I now pronounce you corpse and wife"? Eek.

I read this and thought of Even in Death. But you know, that is a little weird. Well I think it is. So, should a person be allowed, under law, to marry a deceased loved one?

Not that there's anything wrong with that....er...

In Japan a man married a barbie doll. He claimed that the spirit of his dead wife resided in it.

Thats just Fockin wierd...

I read this and thought of Even in Death. But you know, that is a little weird. Well I think it is. So, should a person be allowed, under law, to marry a deceased loved one?
Wierd? Yes.
Understandable? Yes.
Would I ever do it? I hope I'd never have the chance, but yes.

Some people might think about doing it just because they want the tax break, but I don't think that very many people would really be that.. crazy.

I think it's a very loving and devoted thing to do, and I think it tells the world how much you loved (love) this person, and how you are committing yourself to them even when you two are seperated.
I mean, if you believe in an afterlife then you know that the two of you will be together again, so this life here is only for a short time..
I'm probably rambling, but I don't see anything wrong with it.


Side note: That still doesn't make necrophelia right... that's totally sick.

So if you marry a corpse, would you have to divorce them if you met someone else?

In Japan a man married a barbie doll. He claimed that the spirit of his dead wife resided in it.

LMFAO!! Oh my GAWD! What the hell is wrong with people?

So if you marry a corpse, would you have to divorce them if you met someone else?

Thats a good question , how would they sign the divorce papers??

So if you marry a corpse, would you have to divorce them if you met someone else?
It's a legal marriage. Same rules and regulations as any other marriage.
So to answer. Yes.

I don't think you could sue for child support though.
And if you tried to cite sexual problems people might... worry. ;)

In Japan a man married a barbie doll. He claimed that the spirit of his dead wife resided in it.LMFAO!! Oh my GAWD! What the hell is wrong with people?
How is that any different? Seriously. Explain what makes that any different.

Wouldn't that be hilarious, though? The judge would split everything 50/50 and they'd just...BURY the money. Hee!

[color=#00aadd]How is that any different? Seriously. Explain what makes that any different.

It's not any different, and so the what the hell is wrong with people comment also applies to the woman marrying her death lover.

Wouldn't that be hilarious, though? The judge would split everything 50/50 and they'd just...BURY the money. Hee!
Buy a bigger headstone? :D

It's not any different, and so the what the hell is wrong with people comment also applies to the woman marrying her death lover.
That all depends on whether or not you see it as wrong... which if you read my post, you can see that I don't.

That all depends on whether or not you see it as wrong... which if you read my post, you can see that I don't.

Well, that's fine. I can't get my head around it. I don't know how I'd feel if the person I loved died, but you move on with life and you meet someone else.

The link says that in France you can legally marry a dead person if you can prove that you both intended to get married before that persons death.

Well, if I can prove that my partner and I intended to get married before we spilt up, can I legally marry him? I just think marrying a dead person is pushing things too far.

I don't think there's anything wrong with it at all. Seems perfectly acceptable to me. You should be able to marry whomever you want.

Just as long as the other party can give their consent by saying "I do".

What, you mean this guy couldn't? Oh, well. :rolleyes:

In my mind, it's not a marriage, cos it's not a contract between two people. In order for there to be a contract, there must be a meeting of minds. He's dead, folks... his mind ain't meeting anything other than the first earthworm to make it through the eyesocket.

All joking aside, this is bullshit. If you let people go around marrying dead people, then I would just have to find myself a rich woman, hang around her for a bit, engineer her death, marry her after she was dead and inherit all her cash.

Lunacy.

Besides, if you want to marry a dead person, you don't need a priest. You need a shrink.

his mind ain't meeting anything other than the first earthworm to make it through the eyesocket.

Well, there go MY lunch plans. Bleh. :)

If you let people go around marrying dead people, then I would just have to find myself a rich woman, hang around her for a bit, engineer her death, marry her after she was dead and inherit all her cash.
I'm sure there are some kind of protocols in place to try and prevent that... I mean, we are talking about the French... but even still. I think red flags would be popping up on something like that.

his mind ain't meeting anything other than the first earthworm to make it through the eyesocket.Well, there go MY lunch plans. Bleh. :)
Yeah.. that one kind of got me too.
Head... you're sick. Seriously disgustingly horribly gross.


and moderately amusing

In Japan a man married a barbie doll. He claimed that the spirit of his dead wife resided in it.

omg that man must have a screw loose in that head of his or something lmao!! :D

Actually, I don't think a divorce would be required if she met someone else, since the original article said she became both bride and widow that day. Widows don't need permission to remarry, so I'd assume that would apply to her, too.

However, the way I look at it, marriage is a contract for the living. Most ceremonies include the phrase "until death do us part," so if one person is already dead, wouldn't that sort of negate the whole thing? I guess I can sort of understand the desire to be able to say you were married anyway, even if the person is dead, but I don't really think the marriage between a living person and a dead person should really be taking place.

I don't know if I can take a hard stance on this. On the one hand, there are sooooo many ways people could exploit the system...but, as someone who sincerely believes in "buildings burn, people die, but real love is forever..." I sympathize.

What if two people were obviously going to get married? - i.e. they've been together and madly in love for years, finally sent out announcements/invitations and all that, and then (gods forbidding) the day before their wedding day, one of them dies? Wouldn't the people left behind deserve some sort of closure? I mean, besides putting a loved one in the ground. :(

The idea is, if you planned to get married but death unfortunetly stuck your partner, that you can carry through with your plans to be wed to said person. I see nothing wrong with this, and this decision should be made on a more individual basis.

However, I am not sure what I think of the fact that someone can marry me, once I pass on. It's what your name represents to the world when you are no longer here, so in this respect, I definetly believe there should be a very closed critique if this is going to be a legalized practice. I don't think this should apply to most, and should not be taken lightly by any parties involved.

And if this is to be made legalized here, well then I'm going to have to review my will again..

I must admit I'm kind of curious how they are going to consummate the marriage...

I must admit I'm kind of curious how they are going to consummate the marriage...

I don't want to know about that, I don't think that's legal in France, least I hope it's not.

well, didn't people marry animals and crap too?! :p :rolleyes:

lol you cannot be serious someone married a barbie doll HAHAHA thats funny omg i feel really bad for that guy now :p

In Japan a man married a barbie doll. He claimed that the spirit of his dead wife resided in it.
Freaky....



Okay, not really. He's just crazy.

If my significant other died, I would marry him. Dead or alive, I will still love him. Marriage isn't about the legal benefits, it's a symbol of devotion and love that even death cannot take away.

In Japan a man married a barbie doll. He claimed that the spirit of his dead wife resided in it.

Ah yes. I heard about that on Ripley's believe it or not. The woman had killed herself because her family had not given her the blessing to marry her love.

As for marrying a corpse. I don't really see a big deal, though if they do "divorce" wouldn't it be hard to find other men? They'd probably see as a lunatic.

I'd say that it's ok, but really there's no point in doing it. I would rather get married to someone while they're alive. Once that person died, everything about that person is gone except for maybe the memories of that person.

Ah yes. I heard about that on Ripley's believe it or not. The woman had killed herself because her family had not given her the blessing to marry her love.

As for marrying a corpse. I don't really see a big deal, though if they do "divorce" wouldn't it be hard to find other men? They'd probably see as a lunatic.

"What happened to your ex-husband?"

"He died"/"He's still dead"

Decisions, decisions...

Head is right. If the guy is dead and can't give his consent, then it's not a marriage.

I must admit I'm kind of curious how they are going to consummate the marriage...

:eek: :confused: :D ;)

On a similar note, what about pregnancy and death? There's an article somewhere--which I don't have--but a US woman is trying to get ahold of her dead husband's sperm (or was it DNA...) so that they can have a baby. It's a really sad story (he was in the military; I believe he died in Iraq).

I don't feel that this is much different from pregnant women whose husband's die, but I can't see how someone would willingly get pregnant, knowing that she'll never see his reaction to finding out that he's going to be a father, that he'll never be able to touch his child, and that the child will have no chance of ever knowing his father.

On a similar note, what about pregnancy and death? There's an article somewhere--which I don't have--but a US woman is trying to get ahold of her dead husband's sperm (or was it DNA...) so that they can have a baby. It's a really sad story (he was in the military; I believe he died in Iraq).

I don't feel that this is much different from pregnant women whose husband's die, but I can't see how someone would willingly get pregnant, knowing that she'll never see his reaction to finding out that he's going to be a father, that he'll never be able to touch his child, and that the child will have no chance of ever knowing his father.

That is sad, and I can understand it, but...well...

I think these days we're all given way too many rights and freedoms so we are always trying to push the limits of what we can do. Granted, alot of those freedoms and rights are needed but letting people marry dead people? Letting a woman have the child of a dead man?

If we let these things happen, let them become apart of society and we accept them, where does it stop?

As for the woman wanting to have her dead husbands child, what about the child? Doesn't the child have a right to know its father? It's different if he died while she was pregnant...and I think you already said that...:)

This was a part of my homework assignment in my writing for the Mass Media class. We had to do an opinion piece. I think it sucks because I took a side, but at the same time, I kind of agreed with the other side. The other thing that sucks is that we can't use "I" or "my" when we've been so programmed to do it in our classes.

‘Til Death Do Us Part?
In the February 18th Paris Journal article entitled “A Love That Transcends Death Is Blessed by the State,” a woman married a deceased man.
There is a 45-year-old law in place in France that allows such marriages to happen. Christelle Demichel put the rule to use and went through a rough legal process to do so. Over a year after the death of Christelle Demichel’s fiancé Eric, Mrs. Demichel won the presidential approval of a posthumous marriage.There’s no problem with the actual process of this posthumous marriage, however one has to wonder how much emotional distress Mrs. Demichel will face. How will Mrs. Demichel react to birthdays? How will Mrs. Demichel react to anniversaries, such as this wedding and the anniversary of Mr. Demichel’s death? Surely, Mrs. Demichel’s in-laws must be concerned about Mrs. Demichel’s emotional well being.If Mrs. Demichel is willing to deal with the future emotional distress of losing a now husband, then the world should feel happy for her and no one should take happiness away from her. People deal with death in many different ways. At least Mrs. Demichel didn’t deal with death the way Romeo or Juliet in the famous Shakespeare play dealt with the death of a loved one. This may have been Mrs. Demichel’s way of moving on with her life, with or without the blessing of the rest of the world.

This may have been Mrs. Demichel’s way of moving on with her life, with or without the blessing of the rest of the world.[/INDENT]

Hmm, I like the way you wrote that, it's good.

I'm just wondering how someone can move on with their life if they are still holding on to the past, because that's essentially what she's doing by marrying her dead boyfriend.

In Japan a man married a barbie doll. He claimed that the spirit of his dead wife resided in it.

well now at least he has a reason to have sex with it =D

well now at least he has a reason to have sex with it =D

OMG! HA, Why and how does someone have sex with a Barbie Doll? Wait, I don't want to know about the second part.

0_0 depends on what type of barbie doll it is ;) some people really scare me, i just hope the chick didnt have s-e-x with the dead dude, lol that be funny but ewww :D

0_0 depends on what type of barbie doll it is ;) some people really scare me, i just hope the chick didnt have s-e-x with the dead dude, lol that be funny but ewww :D
This might shock you, but I'm gonna say it anyways.

SEX!!!!

Yeesh. We're all (supposed to be, at least) mature adults and adolescents here... we can say the word without giggling or feeling awkward. :p

*giggles and feels awkward*

You so bad, IS!

Seriously, though, of course she didn't have to have sex with the guy. The ceremony didn't make her married to a dead man in that way, it simply made her a widow. There's no elaborate Weekend at Bernie's setup here.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5840978/

JOHANNESBURG - A South African man who shot his pregnant fiancee dead before killing himself will be posthumously married to her at the weekend.

Police Captain Mohale Ramatseba said David Masenta shot 25-year-old Mgwanini Molomo after a quarrel before turning the gun on himself. But Johannesburg’s Sowetan newspaper said family and friends wanted to remember them as a happy couple destined for a happy life together.

The groom’s corpse would be dressed in a cream suit and his bride’s in a gown for the ceremony, at which a priest in the rural village of Ceres in Limpopo will bless the union before the two are buried, the Sowetan said.
Okay, that is not right...

I feel for the widow lady, because she genuinely loved her boyfriend, and he died unexpected in a way that was neither of their faults.

But this guy freaking KILLED his girlfriend, and himself. So not only are they BOTH dead, but in an unhappy way, and their families want to play dress-up with their corpses so that this woman will be stuck with her psycho murdering man for all eternity? WTF?

I read this and thought of Even in Death. But you know, that is a little weird. Well I think it is. So, should a person be allowed, under law, to marry a deceased loved one?

Bride and widow in single ceremony

Tuesday, February 10, 2004 Posted: 9:43 PM EST (0243 GMT)

NICE, France (AP) -- Dressed in a demure black suit, a 35-year-old Frenchwoman has married her dead boyfriend, an exchange of vows that required authorization from President Jacques Chirac.

Under French law, Christelle Demichel became both bride and widow in the ceremony, which was performed Tuesday at Nice City Hall on the French Riviera.

The groom, a former policeman identified as Eric, was killed by a drunk driver in September 2002.

Demichel told LCI television she understood "it could seem shocking to marry someone who is dead," but her feelings for him had not dimmed. His body was not present for the ceremony.

Such marriages are legal if the living spouse can prove the couple had intended to marry before the other died. The French president must also authorize it.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/02/10/france.marriage.ap/index.html

It should be allowed, because a widow/widower may feel upset that they could not marry their deceased loved ones, it should be their business only.

On a similar note, what about pregnancy and death? There's an article somewhere--which I don't have--but a US woman is trying to get ahold of her dead husband's sperm (or was it DNA...) so that they can have a baby. It's a really sad story (he was in the military; I believe he died in Iraq).

I don't feel that this is much different from pregnant women whose husband's die, but I can't see how someone would willingly get pregnant, knowing that she'll never see his reaction to finding out that he's going to be a father, that he'll never be able to touch his child, and that the child will have no chance of ever knowing his father.
I see nothing wrong with that. And I would so do that if I were able to and wanted children. It is sad that he would never get to see his child, but I'd consider it to be a very special thing for a part of him to be carried on in such a way, in such love.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5840978/


Okay, that is not right...

I feel for the widow lady, because she genuinely loved her boyfriend, and he died unexpected in a way that was neither of their faults.

But this guy freaking KILLED his girlfriend, and himself. So not only are they BOTH dead, but in an unhappy way, and their families want to play dress-up with their corpses so that this woman will be stuck with her psycho murdering man for all eternity? WTF?
That sickens me beyond words. At least for the moment.

I don't think that should be allowed...marriage is when both parties involved say their vows, and a dead person can't do that. I would feel for anyone whose partner died before they married, but I just don't think it should be allowed. But then again, it isn't hurting me in anyway, so go ahead! ;)

now i can remember that in some place ....every born child hav to marry a dog .. or something like that hahah

"I now pronounce you corpse and wife"? Eek.

Ha ha, Syd that made me laugh out loud.. like really loud! :p ;)

I don't think that should be allowed...marriage is when both parties involved say their vows, and a dead person can't do that.

yeah, for real. Why should we be worried about gay marriage when people can marry their dead boyfriends/girlfriends, and people are marrying barbies? In my opinion, that's much worse than two people of the same sex getting married.

Cuz the barbie dolls arent lesbians e.e Or the dead husband wasnt gay :rolleyes:
If they were lesbian or gay, THEN there would be a huge issue about it. =p

On a similar note, what about pregnancy and death? There's an article somewhere--which I don't have--but a US woman is trying to get ahold of her dead husband's sperm (or was it DNA...) so that they can have a baby. It's a really sad story (he was in the military; I believe he died in Iraq).

I don't feel that this is much different from pregnant women whose husband's die, but I can't see how someone would willingly get pregnant, knowing that she'll never see his reaction to finding out that he's going to be a father, that he'll never be able to touch his child, and that the child will have no chance of ever knowing his father.

I understand that it would be extremely difficult to bring up a child, especially since you would have to tell them sooner or later that he/she was conceived when the father was dead. :( Then again, if a widow wants to have children that badly, a child would be a way to have a living, breathing part of both of you that she can treasure. If you can't have your husband, the least you can have is a child to remember him by. That's the way I see it.

However, I also agree with Head. If the deceased partner can't give their consent, it shouldn't be considered a marriage.

Cuz the barbie dolls arent lesbians e.e Or the dead husband wasnt gay :rolleyes:
If they were lesbian or gay, THEN there would be a huge issue about it. =p

=/ grr. that bugs me so much, that the government or whatnot just focuses on that, but we don't hear them wanting to "ban marrying barbies." So it's like they just want to ban a majority of people for being happy.