Does anyone know of any german rock groups or any groups from a german speaking country that they can either give me some info about or point me in the write direction as to where to look for info on them

Its for my german coursework - they wont let me do evanescence dammit, so im just doing a super long project instead.

Thanks :D

Rammstein? They had that hit a couple yrs ago.

Off the top of my head, I can only think of two;

Rammstein
Flowing Tears

If I think of or find others, will post.

edit: Blind Guardian is from Germany.

the scorpions

the scorpions

DUDE. The FUCKING Scorpions!

*rocks out*

Guano Apes I believe are German. Then there is Clawfinger, although I actually think that they might be from somewhere around the former Soviet Union, not totally sure. Both of which kick major ass.

the scorpions

DUDE. The FUCKING Scorpions!

*rocks out*
rock you like a hurricane!!!!!!

Best sci-fi german band ever: Hanzel Und Gretyl

I'd do Rammstein personally. They're music has a lot of poetry and cultural references worked into it and they enjoy wordplay.

Specifically I would look at the song Spieluhr (mit einer spieluhr, in der Hand), pay particular attention to the background chorus.

Though you should ignore any and all lyrics translations on Rammstein's website. Some of them are okay, but others are truly atrocious (Du Hast comes immediately to mind--the lyrics on the website read "You hate me" when Hast is a conjugation of Haben, not Hassen--"You asked me" is much closer and I think "You would have me" might also work, but I'd have to check).

Another reason to check out off-site translations (or do your own) is that for songs like Klavier they break apart the meaning and the poetry because the translation is too literal. ("I held my breath" versus "Took my breath away")

Another group to look at would be Megahertz.

the scorpions

DUDE. The FUCKING Scorpions!

*rocks out*


YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!111 THE SCORPIONS RULE!!1

I'd do Rammstein personally. They're music has a lot of poetry and cultural references worked into it and they enjoy wordplay.

Specifically I would look at the song Spieluhr (mit einer spieluhr, in der Hand), pay particular attention to the background chorus.

Though you should ignore any and all lyrics translations on Rammstein's website. Some of them are okay, but others are truly atrocious (Du Hast comes immediately to mind--the lyrics on the website read "You hate me" when Hast is a conjugation of Haben, not Hassen--"You asked me" is much closer and I think "You would have me" might also work, but I'd have to check).

Another reason to check out off-site translations (or do your own) is that for songs like Klavier they break apart the meaning and the poetry because the translation is too literal. ("I held my breath"
versus "Took my breath away")

Another group to look at would be Megahertz.

Well I have both Engel and Du Hast in English and what you said about Du Hast is wrong cause thats how they sing it. So in the way they're using it in the song thats how they are using Hast. I love Rammstein and want to learn German so I could understand the lyrics on my own and enjoy them better.

Well I have both Engel and Du Hast in English and what you said about Du Hast is wrong cause thats how they sing it.

Können Sie Deutsch sprechen? Ich spreche nur ein bißen Deutch, aber ich kenne einige Deutsche.

They have assured me that this is the case after involved conversations with them. As I said, the official translations are wrong.

Let's look at the lyrics.

The "english" version:


You hate me to say
And I did not obey


Am I the only one who this does not make sense to?

Now, the official German version.


Du hast Mich gefragt und ich hab nichts gesagt


First half ("Du hast Mich") first:
If it was spelled "hasst" or "haßt" you might have a point (though the grammar would be odd, something like "you hates me"?), but its very clearly "hast" which is a conjugation of the verb "to be" and means "have." (I just looked it up just to make sure in Deutsch Heute! if you're interested). gefragt literally means "asked."

Literal translation: "you asked me"

Second half: "gesagt" means said. A literal translation would look something like "and I have said nothing" (the verb gets pushed to the end).

Engel is another one where we see them creatively interpreting the lyrics though its a heck of a lot better than "Du Hast." Where the fuck did they get the "god damn not an angel when I die" from the German?


Gott weiss ich will kein Engel sein


"God knows I do not want to be an Angel" is closer.

("Damit," which occurs elsewhere, is more like "so")

My best guess in the former case is that they realized they were appealing to a different audience in the united states (listen to Sonne, Spieluhr, or Klavier--all of which are to "Du Hast" what "My Immortal" is to "Going Under," just with a bigger gap.

The latter case, with Engel, looks something more along the lines of trying to fit the words to the music, though it also bears elements of what happened to "Du Hast."

Also keep in mind that only one member of Rammstein is actually fluent in english, and that isn't the person singing...

I love Rammstein and want to learn German so I could understand the lyrics on my own and enjoy them better.

Same, Berlitz is your friend ;)

wow, thanks this is going to make my coursework a whole of a hell lot easier. thanks

kraftwerk has been the shit since time began. they're so old-school, it was only one room. one of the first recognizably techno groups out there back in the day and they're still going at it. it's kinda weird listening to autobahn and thinkin, "damn, NIN came from this?"



and does KMFDM count as a german band?

i think Rammstein is the best of the best :)

Yup, Rammstein. They're really cool on stage too.

Wir sind helfen, Guano Apes, Die Ärzte ,die Toten Hosen,etwas,Subway to sally, thats all very pupular german bands ;)

Nina Hagen: I was introduced to her music about 3 months ago and I think shes really good. :cool:

This is off topic but do any of the other bands mentioned sound anything like Rammstein?

the scorpions
It's pronounced "SCORPIOOOOOOONS"

Since this thread has something to do with Rammstein, I guess I'll post it here.

This is from Blabbermouth.net

Rock Hard magazine is reporting that RAMMSTEIN's follow-up to 2001's "Mutter" is set to be released September 20, 2004. The first single, entitled "Mein Teil", will arrive on June 21 — one week later than the originally announced June 14 release date. Rock Hard has also reportedly stated the following about the album's musical direction: "Less 'industrial' and more organic, and with frontman Till Lindemann and drummer Christoph Schneider stretching themselves further than ever before, this is RAMMSTEIN honing their craft to the very finest of points... as on first single 'Mein Teil' ('My Part') , which spectacularly shows off the band's trademark blend of musical power, haunting melody and willingness to deal with issues that many would find too difficult or disturbing."

Less 'industrial' and more organic
Sounds like another band that I know that wants to obtain that sound ;)

<<I'm from germany...shall i really count all?so, here are a few:

Rammstein(they aren't so famous here, like you think)
Scorpions
Guanes Apes
Wir sind Helden
Die Ärzte
Silbermond
Söhne Mannheims

there are many other groups, but i hate them...they are such casting groups, etc....

You guys forgot E Nomine.

Yum.

We had a German exchange student at our house but she had to leave to go back to Germany today. She talked about Rammstein a couple times.

deffinatly RAMMSTEIN!
or Guano Apes

(hey ally.........2 days left :D)

lol its fuinny, that you all talk about Rammstein, because everybody know them here, but its not such a famous band...^^:D

lol its fuinny, that you all talk about Rammstein, because everybody know them here, but its not such a famous band...^^:D
It is because that is, for most of us, the limit of our exposure to german groups. You can buy their albums without import fees, they have toured in the US, they have a few songs in english (not that they are any good in english), and even have a song that a lot of people in the US recognize from the radio and from sports (Du hast Mich).

A few of us have had a chance to hear groups such as Megahertz and the Scorpions, but we are really the exceptions here.

It isn't really surprising.

Does anyone know of any german rock groups or any groups from a german speaking country that they can either give me some info about or point me in the write direction as to where to look for info on them

Its for my german coursework - they wont let me do evanescence dammit, so im just doing a super long project instead.

Thanks :D


Try these two links: http://german.about.com/cs/music/index.htm

and http://german.about.com/library/weekly/aa020905b.htm

I think it will give you some German bands.

The only german band I know of is Rammstein... they fuckin' rawk ;) and if you evar get the chance see tehm live they will blow your mind. But it is an adult show. So, you may not be able to get in unless you're over 18. Good Luck! ;)

Well... Scorpions is a good band, I love the earlier albums before Tokyo Tapes and the ballads...

but... Anyone likes PRIMAL FEAR??? SINNER?? :(

It is because that is, for most of us, the limit of our exposure to german groups. You can buy their albums without import fees, they have toured in the US, they have a few songs in english (not that they are any good in english), and even have a song that a lot of people in the US recognize from the radio and from sports (Du hast Mich).

A few of us have had a chance to hear groups such as Megahertz and the Scorpions, but we are really the exceptions here.

It isn't really surprising.

okay, just laught about it:)...now i know the reason...

Sinner? sry, i don't know them:(

being German myself, i know a few, but really not that many either... Rammstein obviously, as they are pretty well known in North America... i really enjoy them, except, as Llywelyn pointed out, their English translated songs are garbage... more specifically "Du Hast"... heck, even the German version of that song isn't that great, but they do have some awesome tracks, and their latest album "Mutter" was really good i thought...

only other German groups i can think of are on the older side, like, as previously mentioned The Scorpions, but also, how about Falco and Nena? they both were somewhat one hit wonders over here with Rock Me Amadeus and 99 Luftballons respectively... and as Dev mentioned, Kraftwerk is also familiar to me... allas, not many others though...

Guano Apes I believe are German.

They ARE German. Look on the site www.guanoapes.de
"Die Happy" is another great German rock group,"Die Toten Hosen","Die Artzte"...

only other German groups i can think of are on the older side, like, as previously mentioned The Scorpions, but also, how about Falco and Nena? they both were somewhat one hit wonders over here with Rock Me Amadeus and 99 Luftballons respectively... and as Dev mentioned, Kraftwerk is also familiar to me... allas, not many others though...


Falco isn't german, he's from Austria ;)

:S I have always knows that Guano Apes is from Norway .. guess im wrong then



but Oomph! is must know german band.
Gothic .

well i am german-and i dont like oomph!
but i am surprised that you know them??

well i am german-and i dont like oomph!
but i am surprised that you know them??


yeap i know them ..i got german satelite ... so have channels like viva and viva plus ..etc

Flowing Tears

Flowing Tears kick ass... I love this band! :)

i'm going to see rammstein in november Yay

*will bring ear pluggs this time*

yeap i know them ..i got german satelite ... so have channels like viva and viva plus ..etc
aahh...ok.i apolegize for the bad german music taste.lol.
you know what i am talking about when you watch these channels ;)

ok i think most of them were already posted but i decided to give you some links:
Die Happy (http://www.diehappy.de/english/frame/frame01.htm)
Rammstein (http://www.rammstein.com/)
Wir sind Helden (sorry only german) (http://www.wirsindhelden.de/html/index2.html)
Guano Apes (http://www.guanoapes.org/english/index.html)
Sportfreunde Stiller(only german again) (http://www.sportfreunde-stiller.de/)
Die toten Hosen (amy sang one of their songs in german lol) (http://www.dietotenhosen.de/en/startseite.php)
Die Ärzte (only german) (http://www.bademeister.com/indexfs.php?b=news&s=news/news.php&f=0)
Beatsteaks (http://www.barfrau.com/frames.php?la=en)
4 Lyn (http://www.4lyn.de/)
Silbermond(german...) (http://www.silbermond.de/)
Oomph! (http://www.oomph.de/oomph_page/english/index.html)

enough so far ....i think...some are really good and i somehow like almost all of them a little...

aahh...ok.i apolegize for the bad german music taste.lol.
you know what i am talking about when you watch these channels ;)



well yeah not really good .. but i like when they got sometimes sunday and saturday nights .. rock music vids on .. once i actually saw Lacuna Coil there ... so was cool.and also like Overdrive ..they showed evanescence concert .
Just wondering if you know Vanilla Ninja ?

i know them^^, and saw them live also( not that i wanted that;))...but i dont like them...no, i hate them:D

i got a girl from russia for 4 weeks now, and she knows rammstein, and Kraftwerk, i dont know if you(you not germans) know them?!

The first german band I discovered was Tangerine Dream. So ahead of their time it hurts. Next was Kraftwerk, Nina Hagen, KMFDM (which by the way stands for 'kill m f-ing depeche mode LOL ) and the pyro-lovin' Rammstein. KM are probably my fave because of their wacky artwork and the nasty way they treat their synths.

Heres a link I found for your research, I hope it helps.

http://www.germanrock.de/ (http://www.germanrock.de/)

click Lexicon on the right, then Alle Bands. There are OODLES of them.

Ich Bein Ein Berliner - JFK

well yeah not really good .. but i like when they got sometimes sunday and saturday nights .. rock music vids on .. once i actually saw Lacuna Coil there ... so was cool.and also like Overdrive ..they showed evanescence concert .
Just wondering if you know Vanilla Ninja ?
i also know them.they suck.one of my friends loves them..:rolleyes:
their songs sound ALL THE SAME.

I just have to say something ... because I am German ;)
my fav german Band is Wir sind Helden as well, saw them live last November. But I absolutely hate it that there are so many bands who are obviously copiyng them. They think, saying things like "We did it all on our own" and "If I sing in German, I'm more credible" makes them WSH-like artists. Where is their creativity? Why can't they have their own ideas? Of course there were other german indie bands before (btw, this thread should be in "small/indie bands" ) But Wir sind Helden created something unique.

Have you tried Persephone? Actually they are Austrian but it's nearly the same language. It's the singer of L'ame immortelle but in Persephone she sings mostly English, I think. I have heard only one song (My sweetest pain) so far, but I love it, and when I have too much money I'll get their latest album

Edit: And for talking about Rammstein and Oomph. Rammstein were influenced by Ooph, I heard. So Oomph exist longer. But I don't care, I don't like any of these bands.

ok i think most of them were already posted but i decided to give you some links:
Die Happy (http://www.diehappy.de/english/frame/frame01.htm)
Rammstein (http://www.rammstein.com/)
Wir sind Helden (sorry only german) (http://www.wirsindhelden.de/html/index2.html)
Guano Apes (http://www.guanoapes.org/english/index.html)
Sportfreunde Stiller(only german again) (http://www.sportfreunde-stiller.de/)
Die toten Hosen (amy sang one of their songs in german lol) (http://www.dietotenhosen.de/en/startseite.php)
Die Ärzte (only german) (http://www.bademeister.com/indexfs.php?b=news&s=news/news.php&f=0)
Beatsteaks (http://www.barfrau.com/frames.php?la=en)
4 Lyn (http://www.4lyn.de/)
Silbermond(german...) (http://www.silbermond.de/)
Oomph! (http://www.oomph.de/oomph_page/english/index.html)

enough so far ....i think...some are really good and i somehow like almost all of them a little...
hmm rockergirl you forgot Brosis, Preluders and overground...:D *just kidding*

i also know them.they suck.one of my friends loves them..:rolleyes:
their songs sound ALL THE SAME.
hmm i think most of the ppl here are knowing vanilla ninja..and crawling is right, there songs sound all the same. every week a new single..:rolleyes:

hmm whispervoice i thougt u love vanilla ninja .. :D


i think rammstein is very known. they are cool and ill buy there new album "Reise Reise". my favourite german bands are die Ärzte and Sportfreunde Stiller, u should listen to them if u havent already done. Die Ärzte say about themselves that they are the best band in the world :cool:
hmm yeah german music channels are mostly boring :o

hmm whispervoice i thougt u love vanilla ninja .. :D

i totally do:D^^

yes, Wir sind Helden is on of my fav, too...the Band Silbermond is similar to Wir sind Helden

but vanilla ninja isn't a german band or? :confused:

i was at rock am ring
and we went to see die toten hosen because everybody acted like they were gods or something
but no, definitly not my kind of music

i don't know if they're german, i think so
but when i was 13 maybe 14 years old i use to be a fan of Magic Affair :p

hmm rockergirl you forgot Brosis, Preluders and overground...:D *just kidding*


you really want me to freak out don't you?! ;) waaaaaaaahhhh!



Edit: And for talking about Rammstein and Oomph. Rammstein were influenced by Ooph, I heard. So Oomph exist longer. But I don't care, I don't like any of these bands.

yes oomph were there first. most people say they were influenced by rammstein but they were not, but i think the music of those bands isn't similar at all. i don't know the old stuff of oomph but what i know is very different...

about vanilla ninja: they aren't even a band! they are 4 pop-girlies that pretend that they're playing guitar...i'm not sure if they are singing their own songs at all, i think they have the milli vanilli-thing(spelling?!) going on...

edit: i forgot wir sind helden:
i really like the band. they have their unique style and their lyrics really have a meaning. ok the music isn't exactly what i like, but the message that band has is really cool. i think silbermond somehow copy them. but their lyrics somehow are just "blah". wir sind helden don't fit into a category. not really indie, not really rock, or pop or whatever...they made up something new and unique...hard to explain....

i don't know if they're german, i think so
but when i was 13 maybe 14 years old i use to be a fan of Magic Affair :p

hmm, i dont know, or dont remember them at the moment...

ugh i think most people on the board dont like vn...but crawling and i know one who does :rolleyes:

i totally do:D^^

yes, Wir sind Helden is on of my fav, too...the Band Silbermond is similar to Wir sind Helden
that's what I meant ...

and I think vanilla ninja aren'T german. but I don't like them aswell :D

i totally do:D^^

yes, Wir sind Helden is on of my fav, too...the Band Silbermond is similar to Wir sind Helden
ha i had known it for ages :D

but vanilla ninja isn't a german band or? :confused:
no they are from estland, and they should stay there...

i was at rock am ring
and we went to see die toten hosen because everybody acted like they were gods or something
but no, definitly not my kind of music

:p
i was at rock am see. it´s not as big as rock am ring but also cool. it has the same mood like RaR. i missed rar this year but i will visit it the next one.
when u are not german u wont like die toten hosen ^^




edit: i forgot wir sind helden:
i really like the band. they have their unique style and their lyrics really have a meaning. ok the music isn't exactly what i like, but the message that band has is really cool. i think silbermond somehow copy them. but their lyrics somehow are just "blah". wir sind helden don't fit into a category. not really indie, not really rock, or pop or whatever...they made up something new and unique...hard to explain....
yes right, they have their own style. indefinable what kind of music they do ^^
silbermond maybe copying them..they are similar but wir sind helden are more succesfully than silbermond. silbermond lyrics havent got any scence :D (most of them, in my opinion).

but vanilla ninja isn't a german band or? :confused:
no,like lht said.they are from estland ;)

i heard "tic tac toe" were pretty famous in the us too?did anyone heard of them?i loved them when i was younger :o

Gotta agree with a lot of other people. Guano Apes all the way. Female vocals rock.

<show-off mode> Estland is Estonia in English ;) </show-off mode>

I know only one silbermond song and that one sounds so incredibly copied, that I hated them from the beginning. The same for the band "Juli"
In interview answers you also notice when a band is copying another one ...

Well, I'm from Italy and I see some German channel.
I absolutely love Rammestein (their last video "Amerika" is great!) and Guano Apes.
But the best German band is Xandria!!! Female vocals, similar (but not the same) to Nightwish and Within Temptation...and their "Ravenheart" is a great album!!!

well i know xandria a little, but i don't like them very much. this girl's voice has no power. i like strong voices like amy's, tarja's(nightwish) and cristina's(lacuna coil). but that's just my taste of music....

about juli: i somehow like "perfekte welle" or how that song is named. but i'll definitely never become a fan of them. and wir sind helden are much better. of course....

oh, rammstein were discussed, too: i really liked their song "mein teil" it's about a murder that happened here. 2 guys talked on the internet and decided to meet each other in real life. but it wasn't a normal meeting, cause one guy cut the other one's penis off and they both ate it together...it was planned and both agreed into that plan....rammstein really made a funny song of it. most people were shocked, but i don't see the problem, those guys both wanted it...and why not making a song of it? people are so easily offended i don't get why...now the "cannibal of rotenburg" that's how they called them, is in jale...
i don't really like their now song....

well i know xandria a little, but i don't like them very much. this girl's voice has no power. i like strong voices like amy's, tarja's(nightwish) and cristina's(lacuna coil). but that's just my taste of music....

about juli: i somehow like "perfekte welle" or how that song is named. but i'll definitely never become a fan of them. and wir sind helden are much better. of course....

oh, rammstein were discussed, too: i really liked their song "mein teil" it's about a murder that happened here. 2 guys talked on the internet and decided to meet each other in real life. but it wasn't a normal meeting, cause one guy cut the other one's penis off and they both ate it together...it was planned and both agreed into that plan....rammstein really made a funny song of it. most people were shocked, but i don't see the problem, those guys both wanted it...and why not making a song of it? people are so easily offended i don't get why...now the "cannibal of rotenburg" that's how they called them, is in jale...
i don't really like their now song....
1. I once listened to Comalies in store, but didn't like it very much. Too much electro and the female voice didn't really fit. but maybe I just need a second time ;)

2. yes, but after it, the man ate the WHOLE other man. And I think it IS a problem because, who could say that the man really agreed into that.
Anyway that's just ill. But if people want to listen to those songs, they shall do. I don't care.
I like songs better, which I can RELATE to ;)

Edit: *Looks at her Wir sind Helden tour poster and remembers the concert, first row in front of Mark ;) :D *

Flowing Tears: www.flowingtears.de (http://www.flowingtears.de)
They are awesome!! :)

1. I once listened to Comalies in store, but didn't like it very much. Too much electro and the female voice didn't really fit. but maybe I just need a second time ;)

2. yes, but after it, the man ate the WHOLE other man. And I think it IS a problem because, who could say that the man really agreed into that.
Anyway that's just ill. But if people want to listen to those songs, they shall do. I don't care.
I like songs better, which I can RELATE to ;)

Edit: *Looks at her Wir sind Helden tour poster and remembers the concert, first row in front of Mark ;) :D *

i like comalies...hmm.... i think the voice fits, she sings in so many different ways, like she could do everything with her voice..

about rammstein: he didn't eat the whole guy, he just ate some other parts...
i don't know how they found out that the man agreed but they did...i think they may have found emails or something like that...
i don't know if i would call cannibalism ill. i mean many animals do eat their own species. we humans just see it another way, but actually we are just a kind of animal...no idea if i could eat a human, but i don't think it is sick...

i never saw wir sind helden live....

about that cannibal...i dont know what to think about that.
that is not my cup of tea ;) but-
I LOVE RAMMSTEIN! "mein teil" was great,even though the video was pretty...scary.;)
"amerika" is amazing.i love the end where the singer is taking that picture :)

i love the mein teil video. i think it's just beautiful in it's own way. i like this dark look the fast pictures, the lightnings...it's not scary for me i always laugh about the end....my favourite part is when the singer is on this chair and "kills" this angel...or what it's supposed to be...

does anyone know "Edguy" or "The Vision Bleak"? Those are two great german bands :)

lol i dont like Vanilla Ninja either,
im originally from Estonia(Estland or whatever u call it there)
and its like only band from Est ..that has made it to german tv ...

<show-off mode> Estland is Estonia in English ;) </show-off mode>
...
haha..even does know it better ;)

never heard of xandria :confused:

i like comalies...hmm.... i think the voice fits, she sings in so many different ways, like she could do everything with her voice..

about rammstein: he didn't eat the whole guy, he just ate some other parts...
i don't know how they found out that the man agreed but they did...i think they may have found emails or something like that...
i don't know if i would call cannibalism ill. i mean many animals do eat their own species. we humans just see it another way, but actually we are just a kind of animal...no idea if i could eat a human, but i don't think it is sick...

i think u shouldnt mention this topic about cannibalism here..
cannibalism is ill and u should not compare humans with animals.
people who eat other people are crazy and should be arrested in prison till they die. i would never eat any humans...
the song mein teil is great exactly how Amerika. i think i gonna buy there new album..the video of mein teil is different to the others of rammstein. it was the first time they did this. they tried out something new, with succes i think.

*edit* never heard of 'edguy' or 'the vision bleak' :(

i like comalies...hmm.... i think the voice fits, she sings in so many different ways, like she could do everything with her voice..

about rammstein: he didn't eat the whole guy, he just ate some other parts...
i don't know how they found out that the man agreed but they did...i think they may have found emails or something like that...
i don't know if i would call cannibalism ill. i mean many animals do eat their own species. we humans just see it another way, but actually we are just a kind of animal...no idea if i could eat a human, but i don't think it is sick...

i never saw wir sind helden live....

l <3 wir sind helden...i like some silbermond songs, but i never really listen to the lyrics:D...

most people say i have a really scary way to think about cannibalism...i'm vegitarian, and i think if people eat animals, why shouldn't they eat humans too?i mean i never would do it, but i would never eat animals too...animals also have pain and feelings, so i dont think cannibalism is more bad than eating animals, but i hate both...

lol anyway, back to topic...

i like some songs from the band oomph, does anyone(i know you germans know them;)) know them?

yes, oomph! is a really great band :) i think it's one of my fav german bands :)

:) "augen auf " and "brennende liebe" i love...i dont really like "sex hat keine macht"...but the singer is so beautiful(dont know the real word in english:D):D

yes, "augen auf" is a really cool song, but i think "wenn du weinst" is my fav from "wahrheit oder pflicht" :)

most people say i have a really scary way to think about cannibalism...i'm vegitarian, and i think if people eat animals, why shouldn't they eat humans too?i mean i never would do it, but i would never eat animals too...animals also have pain and feelings, so i dont think cannibalism is more bad than eating animals, but i hate both...

lol anyway, back to topic...

i like some songs from the band oomph, does anyone(i know you germans know them;)) know them?
most people are right, u have a scary way of thinking about cannibalism, you shouldnt compare animals to humans. but it´s your opinion so noone can say anything against it. maybe you are right...*discusses it with u* :D
but we should close this sup-topic and only speak about german bands.
i hate ooomph :D they have a strange style..first time i heard of them was when there song "augen auf" came into german televison...

most people say i have a really scary way to think about cannibalism...i'm vegitarian, and i think if people eat animals, why shouldn't they eat humans too?i mean i never would do it, but i would never eat animals too...animals also have pain and feelings, so i dont think cannibalism is more bad than eating animals, but i hate both...


I'm also vegitarian and i think there is no difference between the feelings of humans and animals. humans just think they are better but actually every life is something nobody should destroy. no matter if animal or human.
cannibalism isn't sick, humans just have all this ethic and stuff that says it is bad, of course it is bad cause that would mean to kill each other, but what about killing animals, is that better?! most would say yes, cause that's what they've been told and most people live what they've been told. or they just don't have enough respect of animals...

i think we can end this topic here i just think cannibalism isn't sick in any way...if there were no more animals, no more plants, nothing else to eat, everyone would eat humans sooner or later...


about oomph!: i liked augen auf, but somehow that song became boring for me after i heard it so many times. brennende liebe was good, too, but somehow i think it's boring, too. maybe their music is just not the right thing for me...


i forgot to give you the H-Blockx (http://www.h-blockx.de/) link....

[COLOR=Magenta]I'm also vegitarian and i think there is no difference between the feelings of humans and animals. humans just think they are better but actually every life is something nobody should destroy. no matter if animal or human.
cannibalism isn't sick, humans just have all this ethic and stuff that says it is bad, of course it is bad cause that would mean to kill each other, but what about killing animals, is that better?! most would say yes, cause that's what they've been told and most people live what they've been told. or they just don't have enough respect of animals...

i think we can end this topic here i just think cannibalism isn't sick in any way...if there were no more animals, no more plants, nothing else to eat, everyone would eat humans sooner or later...


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I am also a vegetarien :D
and i agree with that ;)

haha..even does know it better ;)

i think u shouldnt mention this topic about cannibalism here..
cannibalism is ill and u should not compare humans with animals.
people who eat other people are crazy and should be arrested in prison till they die. i would never eat any humans...
the song mein teil is great exactly how Amerika. i think i gonna buy there new album..the video of mein teil is different to the others of rammstein. it was the first time they did this. they tried out something new, with succes i think.

*edit* never heard of 'edguy' or 'the vision bleak' :(

:p

yes. And even if animals eat the same species, we human won't compare ourselves to animals in other ways ... Cannibalism among animals has caused the diseases BSE and Alzheimer's, btw
This was proved because some native inhabitants on a pacific Island were also cannibals and showed signs of BSE ... It happens if some proteins combine with your brain cells or so ... read "Stupid white men" if you want to know more about it. :)

and to return to the topic... I remember that one of our CD stores was playing a Zeraphine album once, and from what I know, they play both english and german stuff (at least one album has a german name, I think. But the CD they played in store was in english)

about Lacuna Coil: As I said, maybe I just need a second time. But the "spark" wasn't there the first time ...

hehe thats cool, but this could be a new topic for the hey germans tread:p:D

anyway, oomph is one of my fav german bands...beside wir sind helden etc..
i think they should get more international, because if the international people are so intrested in rammstein, and its not the same music styl, but a bit similar, they will like oomph also...

its a problem that songs always get played to much, so that people just cant here them after a while...the same happend to me with my immortal, but now that they dont play it anymore i love to hear it again:)

hehe thats cool, but this could be a new topic for the hey germans tread:p:D

anyway, oomph is one of my fav german bands...beside wir sind helden etc..
i think they should get more international, because if the international people are so intrested in rammstein, and its not the same music styl, but a bit similar, they will like oomph also...

its a problem that songs always get played to much, so that people just cant here them after a while...the same happend to me with my immortal, but now that they dont play it anymore i love to hear it again:)

hehe yeah we should think about it.. :p
hmm it´s hard for german bands who only have german lyrics to get international.(like sportfreunde stiller)the people can only listen to them how they are playing their instruments but they dont understand any lyrics. i wonder why rammstein is so known in other countries besides germany..
it will be hard for wir sind helden to get internationaly known.
it´s a bigger problem that hip hop songs get played so much, i cant hear them even if i dont know them before :D hip hop songs are all similar :o

bands with non-english lyrics always have this problem with becoming popular worldwide. that's the negative side of the "world-language english"....

i think the best german band at the moment is wir sind helden. their lyrics have a meaning and their music really is individual. and they somehow can represent the country cause of their german lyrics.

one last comment about the cannibalism thing: i compair humans to animals, cause human are animals. just one species of the evolution like million others...
and the bse problem was caused by it cause many things worked together it wasn't just the cannibalism. the history tells us many cases when people are each other without negative results...

bands with non-english lyrics always have this problem with becoming popular worldwide. that's the negative side of the "world-language english"....

i think the best german band at the moment is wir sind helden. their lyrics have a meaning and their music really is individual. and they somehow can represent the country cause of their german lyrics.

one last comment about the cannibalism thing: i compair humans to animals, cause human are animals. just one species of the evolution like million others...
and the bse problem was caused by it cause many things worked together it wasn't just the cannibalism. the history tells us many cases when people are each other without negative results...

negative for us but not for english-speaking countries...
hmm the best german band in your opinion is wir sind helden, but u cant speak of the "best" german band..other people like other bands best. i mean, the lyrics of sportfreunde stiller or whatever have a meaning too. maybe not for u but for me. they are not the only band who can represent their country cause of their german lyrics... (i liked the song "denkmal" from wir sind helden)

to the cannibalism:
i have had a detailed discussion with wv about it and we havent finish yet :D
maybe we can talk about it in the german thread........

hehe yeah we should think about it.. :p
hmm it´s hard for german bands who only have german lyrics to get international.(like sportfreunde stiller)the people can only listen to them how they are playing their instruments but they dont understand any lyrics. i wonder why rammstein is so known in other countries besides germany..
it will be hard for wir sind helden to get internationaly known.
it´s a bigger problem that hip hop songs get played so much, i cant hear them even if i dont know them before :D hip hop songs are all similar :o

When I started learning French, I listened to a french CD and tried to translate the few words I have known. So it was nice for me, to learn a little more. So if you're learning German, it's good to have German lyrics because they help you to learn how to speak the language.

"Denkmal" is the most commercial song by Wir sind Helden. It doesn't represent anything because it is "just" a song about love (though it's not a real lovesong). IMO, "Ist das so?" is a better song. It's not easy to understand because it's very fast, but it's worth listening to it :)

Does anyone know "La Immortelle" .. or im not sure what theyr name was .. but something similar to that if not that ...They also sing song with "Oomph"
"Brennende Liebe " and i know one more song of theyrs "5 Jahre"
and who knows song " Sapce taxi " i really hate it ... but its funny.


and theres Alexander .. Hes cute.

yes, L'Ame Immortelle is great, but they are not an german band, they are from austria ;)

god, alexander? i totally hate this guy...

yes, L'Ame Immortelle is great, but they are not an german band, they are from austria ;)

god, alexander? i totally hate this guy...



Yeah sorry just got to know theyr from Austria .. ,saw them on german tv so guessed theyr from there.
they are good!!!
lol

negative for us but not for english-speaking countries...

not when you think about how many different bands the world would know if they had a real chance...

hmm the best german band in your opinion is wir sind helden, but u cant speak of the "best" german band..other people like other bands best. i mean, the lyrics of sportfreunde stiller or whatever have a meaning too. maybe not for u but for me. they are not the only band who can represent their country cause of their german lyrics... (i liked the song "denkmal" from wir sind helden)

yes, in my opinion it's wir sind helden. i think their lyrics have a deeper meaning then those of the sportfreunde stiller. i can't find any important meaning in 1. wahl or ich, roque. only an example. and of course they are not the only band, but if you look at their achievements(spelling?!) you'll see that they really have much potential, probably the most potential of the german bands we know at the moment.

to the cannibalism:
i have had a detailed discussion with wv about it and we havent finish yet :D
maybe we can talk about it in the german thread........

ok, we needed a new topic anyway....and it's much easier to express myself in german. i just don't know the right english words...

so now about l'ame immortelle or how ever they write their name, i suck at french...
i liked the song they had with oopmh but i'm bored by it now. when i heard 5 jahre i was a little disappointed cause i thought their music would rock more. i have to say that this song is the only one i know of them, so maybe the others are better...

and alexander?! i hope we are not talking about that casting-pop-uuuaaaagh-guy. everytime i see this puddle he calls a face on tv i just want to beat him up...he brought the worst music ever to germany. ok, he and other ones did but he sucks the most, doesn't he? i still think he's the unknown son of dieter bohlen....

in my opinion wir sind helden is the best german band also:)...some lyrics are not very deep,like "rüssel an schwanz", but i love the melody of this song:p

no.words.about.alex.*goes puking*

is rosentolz german band?

anyway i searched all german bands i could find
heres the link wheres also websites for these bands http://www.germanfortravellers.com/internet/music.html

Die Ärzte
Alphaville
BAP
EAV
Echt
Element of Crime
Extrabreit
Falco
De Phazz
Die fantastischen Vier
Fettes Brot
Geier Sturzflug
Hubert von Goisern
Goldjunge
Herbert Grönemeyer
Nina Hagen
Heino
Udo Jürgens
Kraftwerk
Kruder & Dorfmeister
Udo Lindenberg
Mardi Gras BB
Massive Töne
Reinhard Mey
Xavier Naidoo
Nena
Patent Ochsner
Die Prinzen
Die Puhdys
Rammstein
Rammstein - Herzeleid
Marianne Rosenberg
Die Schürzenjäger
Selig
Sabrina Setlur
Smudo's Seite
Söhne Mannheims
Spliff
Sportfreunde Stiller
Stereototal
Die Sterne
Sunburn in Cyprus
Tocotronic
Die toten Hosen
Trio
Visit Venus
Juliane Werding
Westernhagen
Wir sind Helden
Wise Guys
WIZO

is rosentolz german band?

anyway i searched all german bands i could find
heres the link wheres also websites for these bands http://www.germanfortravellers.com/internet/music.html

Die Ärzte
Alphaville
BAP
EAV
Echt
Element of Crime
Extrabreit
Falco
De Phazz
Die fantastischen Vier
Fettes Brot
Geier Sturzflug

Kraftwerk
Kruder & Dorfmeister

Mardi Gras BB
Massive Töne

Patent Ochsner
Die Prinzen
Die Puhdys
Rammstein
Rammstein - Herzeleid

Die Schürzenjäger
Selig

Smudo's Seite
Söhne Mannheims
Spliff
Sportfreunde Stiller
Stereototal
Die Sterne
Sunburn in Cyprus
Tocotronic
Die toten Hosen
Trio
Visit Venus

Westernhagen
Wir sind Helden
Wise Guys
WIZO

omg i dont even know a few of them...and some of them(which i dont quote) are not a band but only one person;)
and yes, rosenstolz are german;)...but you found some very bad music, its like german country music...

not when you think about how many different bands the world would know if they had a real chance...
hmm if "the world" wanna get to know some german bands, they would visit german music festivals, like rar. do you know any australian bands ?? i think no cause u didnt care..so it´s the same with other countries and german bands.

yes, in my opinion it's wir sind helden. i think their lyrics have a deeper meaning then those of the sportfreunde stiller. i can't find any important meaning in 1. wahl or ich, roque. only an example. and of course they are not the only band, but if you look at their achievements(spelling?!) you'll see that they really have much potential, probably the most potential of the german bands we know at the moment.
hmm u dont know all songs of sportfreudne stiller :) maybe they are the best, but you cant say so..other ppl like die ärzte better..u can sy the have potential too and they are better known then wsh. but its your opinion :)

i dont like alexander, acctually i hate him :D hes songs sound all the same, and he wasnt good @ superstar worldwide..

he wasnt good @ superstar worldwide..
he wasnt good evar*saw him live*shames**:p:D

...bandsome lyrics are not very deep,like "rüssel an schwanz", ...


You just haven't understand it then. It is about people who are just copying other people, follow their ways and do everything without questioning or finding their own ways.

About L'ame immortellle ... I told you about Persephone earlier. Although I know just one song from both bands, I like the way Sonja sings in Persephone better than in L'ame immortelle. :)

hmm if "the world" wanna get to know some german bands, they would visit german music festivals, like rar. do you know any australian bands ?? i think no cause u didnt care..so it´s the same with other countries and german bands.

yes but bands with non-english lyrics don't get that much attention and aren't as popular as band that have them. attention is a very important thing to get popular and so on....of course it's always about interest, but mostly it's about being popular, too.

hmm u dont know all songs of sportfreudne stiller :) maybe they are the best, but you cant say so..other ppl like die ärzte better..u can sy the have potential too and they are better known then wsh. but its your opinion :)

all i say is only my opinion. always. but if we're being honest: die ärzte don't have lyrics with such a deep meaning like wsh. of course they are known well. but not cause of thir deep lyrics. their new song is the only one i know that has a real important meaning.....

is rosentolz german band?

anyway i searched all german bands i could find
heres the link wheres also websites for these bands http://www.germanfortravellers.com/internet/music.html

Die Ärzte
Alphaville
BAP
EAV
Echt
Element of Crime
Extrabreit
Falco
De Phazz
Die fantastischen Vier
Fettes Brot
Geier Sturzflug
Hubert von Goisern
Goldjunge
Herbert Grönemeyer
Nina Hagen
Heino
Udo Jürgens
Kraftwerk
Kruder & Dorfmeister
Udo Lindenberg
Mardi Gras BB
Massive Töne
Reinhard Mey
Xavier Naidoo
Nena
Patent Ochsner
Die Prinzen
Die Puhdys
Rammstein
Rammstein - Herzeleid
Marianne Rosenberg
Die Schürzenjäger
Selig
Sabrina Setlur
Smudo's Seite
Söhne Mannheims
Spliff
Sportfreunde Stiller
Stereototal
Die Sterne
Sunburn in Cyprus
Tocotronic
Die toten Hosen
Trio
Visit Venus
Juliane Werding
Westernhagen
Wir sind Helden
Wise Guys
WIZO

I want to tell you what I know about them. And yes, Rosenstolz are German.

Die Ärzte:
search the topic, they were mentioned a few times. I don't like them btw.

Alphaville :
didn't know they were German. 80ies band (Forever young is a wellknown song)

BAP:
they sing in Cologne dialect. My dad is a big fan of theirs, but not my fav style of music

Echt:
they were something like a teenie band. a few guys who sang about love ...

Extrabreit :
80ies, I think

Falco:
Austrian, became pretty famous, dark songs, often with english chorus (Out of the dark, Jeany, Der Komissar)

Die fantastischen Vier:
Hiphop

Fettes Brot:
hiphop

Geier Sturzflug:
80ies, I think

Herbert Grönemeyer:
great Artist, though not my fav style. He was also an actor in "Das Boot". He became famous in the 80ies but is still doing music. His last album "Mensch" (which has some good songs such as "Demo", "Mensch", "Der Weg") was sold 2 million times.

Nina Hagen:
80ies punk, left the GDR and became famous in the west

Kraftwerk:
electro

Udo Lindenberg:
dunno what to say ... also an older artist


Massive Töne:
hiphop

Reinhard Mey:
singer-songwriter

Xavier Naidoo:
black music

Nena:
80ies

Die Prinzen:
funny music (like "Deutschland")

Die Puhdys:
old music

Rammstein:
industrial

Sabrina Setlur :
black music

Söhne Mannheims:
black music

Spliff
80ies

Sportfreunde Stiller
I liek them, but I only know a concert they showed on mtv, I don't own one of their cds

Die Sterne:
said to be good. a more unknown indie band

Tocotronic:
indie band. said to be good. I know only one songs. known for really deep lyrics


Die toten Hosen:
were mentioned before

Trio :
80ies

Westernhagen:
can't say much. he's famous but I don't know much of him

Wir sind Helden:
were mentioned :)

do you know any australian bands ?? i think no cause u didnt care..so it´s the same with other countries and german bands.


But I do ;) though I don't care. ACDC, they are pretty famous. Even younger people wear Tshirts of them and stuff ...

have to go now ... drama

i love xavier naidoo:D
oh and he is also a member of söhne mannheims ;) :)

i love xavier naidoo:D
oh and he is also a member of söhne mannheims ;) :)

oh i don't like him that much. always this religious stuff, not my thing. and his music is so boring. of course sometimes he has good lyrics like this brothers keepers thing he did. but.....still boring, for me....
i know it looks like i'm saying negative stuff about almost every band that is mentioned here. it's just my opinion and as long as i don't just say, they suck , it's ok cause i always have reasons...

oh i don't like him that much. always this religious stuff, not my thing. and his music is so boring. of course sometimes he has good lyrics like this brothers keepers thing he did. but.....still boring, for me....
i know it looks like i'm saying negative stuff about almost every band that is mentioned here. it's just my opinion and as long as i don't just say, they suck , it's ok cause i always have reasons...
i also dont really like that religious things...but i love his voice and his lyrics. :)
and hey,there arent many good german bands so it is no surprise that you say these negative things...and i also dont like most of them ;)

"die ärzte - die beste Band der Welt."

die ärzte remind me of a german version of Tenacious D. they just kick my ass. a lot.

yes but bands with non-english lyrics don't get that much attention and aren't as popular as band that have them. attention is a very important thing to get popular and so on....of course it's always about interest, but mostly it's about being popular, too.
yeah right..but if they want to become famous anyways they should start to sing their songs in english. i dont think that bands linke sportfreunde stiller or wsh wanna become famous in the united states or whatever. they are both popular in germany, thats enough.



all i say is only my opinion. always. but if we're being honest: die ärzte don't have lyrics with such a deep meaning like wsh. of course they are known well. but not cause of thir deep lyrics. their new song is the only one i know that has a real important meaning.....
you dont need lyrics with deep meanings to become famous. mostly not. every band has another view of good music and so are their lyrics. maybe for the band they have a deeper meaning but not for you. wsh have got songs too with, in my opinion, a non important meaning. how many ärztesongs do you know ?? it´s only your point of view, so it doesnt mean that they are have only one song with a deep meaning :p

stop talking about xavier naidoo.. :D

*agrees with michelle* i saw them playing live and they rock :cool:

yeah right..but if they want to become famous anyways they should start to sing their songs in english. i dont think that bands linke sportfreunde stiller or wsh wanna become famous in the united states or whatever. they are both popular in germany, thats enough.

the problem is that bands with non-english lyrics don't even have a big chance to get famous somewhere else. it's not about if they want to, it's about if they CAN. and if the only way is to change something for example the language they can't get famous the way they are. the result would be music that's not straight from the heart. cause it's not what they really want to do.

you dont need lyrics with deep meanings to become famous. mostly not. every band has another view of good music and so are their lyrics. maybe for the band they have a deeper meaning but not for you. wsh have got songs too with, in my opinion, a non important meaning. how many ärztesongs do you know ?? it´s only your point of view, so it doesnt mean that they are have only one song with a deep meaning :p

i know you don't need deep lyrics, but if we're talking about a band the represents something, what would we choose? something smart or something not that smart...and deep lyrics are a part of quality.
i said it is the only one with a deep meaning i know. no idea how many i know. i didn't count them. but look at "männer sind schweine" or "elke". not really that deep...
of course they are successful and all that stuff, but does that make them better than other bands...?! yeah they rock but does their music make as much sense as other's? don't get me wrong, i like them, but i don't think they are as good as wsh...

I think, it is more important to have deep lyrics than to become famous ;)
A lot of bands I listen to aren't famous, but make great music :)

I think, it is more important to have deep lyrics than to become famous ;)
A lot of bands I listen to aren't famous, but make great music :)

exactly!
but the problem is that sometimes the popularity is the reason why we hear of bands. i wouldn't know ev if they haven't had this success with bmtl. for example.
so sometimes it's good to be famous if you want to reach the right people...

exactly!
but the problem is that sometimes the popularity is the reason why we hear of bands. i wouldn't know ev if they haven't had this success with bmtl. for example.
so sometimes it's good to be famous if you want to reach the right people...
i know i listen to so many great bands which are not so famous.they are amazing and NO ONE of my friends knows them. :(

the problem is that bands with non-english lyrics don't even have a big chance to get famous somewhere else. it's not about if they want to, it's about if they CAN. and if the only way is to change something for example the language they can't get famous the way they are. the result would be music that's not straight from the heart. cause it's not what they really want to do.
yeah right, it would sound a little strange if wir sind helden or die ärzte start singing in english right now. we can say if a band doesnt have english lyrics they wont become famous in other countries...but do you think the helden wanna get known internationaly ?? i think no...so it´s senseless to talk about it. they are famous in germany and some other parts of europe.



i know you don't need deep lyrics, but if we're talking about a band the represents something, what would we choose? something smart or something not that smart...and deep lyrics are a part of quality.
i said it is the only one with a deep meaning i know. no idea how many i know. i didn't count them. but look at "männer sind schweine" or "elke". not really that deep...
of course they are successful and all that stuff, but does that make them better than other bands...?! yeah they rock but does their music make as much sense as other's? don't get me wrong, i like them, but i don't think they are as good as wsh...
i think the most famous bands have any deep lyrics but u can also get at the top without. the ärzte have a lot of songs without deep lyrics (waah i hate to write this word) and they are successful. of course this doesnt make them better as any other german bands. if u like their music it´s ok.
wsh is not my kind of music, so i dont agree with you.

popularity isn't quality....that's the whole thing....

Does anyone like Mein Teil, Rammstein's new song? The video is creepy

Does anyone like Mein Teil, Rammstein's new song? The video is creepy

i like the song. it's funny, ok i'm the only one who thinks like that, but for me it is. i think the video is cool. beautiful in some way...

oh, something else: did anybody see the new oomph clip? woah! that singer is even hotter than i thought. these tattoos on his chest! :D

I love Rammstein and want to learn German so I could understand the lyrics on my own and enjoy them better.
You don't want to understand their lyrics,trust me,they are absolutly sick!I like the band,but I still think the lyrics are too heavy.
In the song "Du Riechst So Gut" is a line that goes:".... a blind baby is crawling backwards 'cause he can smell he's mother".
Nd

Does anyone like Mein Teil, Rammstein's new song? The video is creepy
actually they have another new song, called "Amerika". i like the song Mein Teil but yeah the video is a little strange..
@rockergirl: right..we should stop discussing in this thread :D
sry dont know the new clip of them.

I think the Meine Teil video is strange because:

- The angel giving the lead a BJ then he rips her wings off :)
- They are mostly dressed in S&M gear
- The band member dressed as an old lady walking the other guys on a big lead.

I have heard the song is about a Cannible (can't spell) You can download this song soon on www.meinteil.com

You don't want to understand their lyrics,trust me,they are absolutly sick!I like the band,but I still think the lyrics are too heavy.
In the song "Du Riechst So Gut" is a line that goes:".... a blind baby is crawling backwards 'cause he can smell he's mother".
Nd

i think their lyrics aren't sick at all. in "du riechst so gut" is it "like a blind child that crawls foreward cause it smells it's mother" that fits better. i hope i got the right grammar. but if you look at some other lyrics they are not sick, they may sound sick in this special case, but in the context it's not bad at all.

about the mein teil video: i love the end when that one "drag queen"(that's how i call him in that clip) walks from the underground to the streets with the others as her doggies. the thing about the blow job isn't that interesting for me. i noticed it but that's all. a blow job isn't something special on tv...i also love the scene when they are wrestling in the mud. there's one moment when it looks like there's a skeleton. but maybe only i see it. lol...
the first song of them i really liked was "engel" it has vocals of children in it. sounds strange but cool...

edit: anybody has to know the new oomph video! it's like the "exorcist" but a little dumb to be honest...and funny....and at the end there's the singer, tied to the bed, topless, and i never saw these cool tattoos on this chest before. that guy is so hot.... :D