If anyone is interested the title of book 7 was reviealed on Dec 21st 2006


---> Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows<-----

Go to www.mugglenet.com for "facts"

Oooooh nice! Certainly seems dark and weird. I look forward to it!!

Once again the title is lame. However I'm sure the actual book will be outstanding.

Once again the title is lame. However I'm sure the actual book will be outstanding.
Ha, you have a point there!

I'm not a Harry fan, but I bet the bookstores will have crowds of people camped outside them, stores competing in pricing, when the book is released.

The title is teh suck IMO. It just reminds me of a mix between Harry Potter and the Worst Witch.

Ugh. I hope the book is better :/

Yeah, the title is creepy. But I'm still looking forward to reading this book. So pity, it's the last one. x(

They'd better released the date, not the title. *sighs*

I'm not a Harry fan, but I bet the bookstores will have crowds of people camped outside them, stores competing in pricing, when the book is released.

Haha! My friends and I did that last year. :rolleyes:

I'm assuming That it's Hallow as in Godric's Hallow where James and Lily used to Live, Which is where i always thought the final battle would take place on the very spot where Lily and James were killed and Harry first defeated Voldemort. perhaps it holds significance

Haha! My friends and I did that last year. :rolleyes:

haha, I'll be doing that this year!! My friends mom is trying to rent out this little bookstore for the night and have a HP party! (The first step to recovery is admitting Im a dork):D You know what they say though "never judge a book by its cover"...same goes for the title! Usually the prices stay right around the same from what Ive seen, don't know though, they may play with it more since its the last one and all.

haha, I'll be doing that this year!! My friends mom is trying to rent out this little bookstore for the night and have a HP party! (The first step to recovery is admitting Im a dork):D You know what they say though "never judge a book by its cover"...same goes for the title! Usually the prices stay right around the same from what Ive seen, don't know though, they may play with it more since its the last one and all.

Wow I've never had like a party for the new release of a book or movie but, being a dork, I kinda wanna go. :mrgreen:

Eh, the name doesn't really stick out to me that much. But, at least there's no more waiting for the name.

Wow I've never had like a party for the new release of a book or movie but, being a dork, I kinda wanna go. :mrgreen:

Youre invited! :D
Nothing wrong with dorks...as long as we all stick together!
I've never made it to the midnight release of the books but to the movies I have a couple of times. It fun to see the people all dressed up in robes and stuff! :p

Youre invited! :D
Nothing wrong with dorks...as long as we all stick together!
I've never made it to the midnight release of the books but to the movies I have a couple of times. It fun to see the people all dressed up in robes and stuff! :p

Yay! I went to the midnight premiere of the second pirate movie but that was coincidence (sp?) because me and my friends were out all night and at like 11:30 I suggested we go to the movies and we made it for that

Yay! I went to the midnight premiere of the second pirate movie but that was coincidence (sp?) because me and my friends were out all night and at like 11:30 I suggested we go to the movies and we made it for that

Thats always a fun surpise!
We went to the midnight showings for Pirates also, and Eragon. I think we've made the midnight show for all the Hp movies; the people are always surprisingly nice at the midnight shows too! :D
I need to start re-reading all the HP books, come to think of it. :p

I'm assuming That it's Hallow as in Godric's Hallow where James and Lily used to Live, Which is where i always thought the final battle would take place on the very spot where Lily and James were killed and Harry first defeated Voldemort. perhaps it holds significance

I bet your right. Hail the wise one!:D

Thats always a fun surpise!
We went to the midnight showings for Pirates also, and Eragon. I think we've made the midnight show for all the Hp movies; the people are always surprisingly nice at the midnight shows too! :D
I need to start re-reading all the HP books, come to think of it. :p

I love midnight showings! I went to all of them for the three Lord of the Rings movies. *nerd*

I'm SO excited for this book! ^.^

Thats always a fun surpise!
We went to the midnight showings for Pirates also, and Eragon. I think we've made the midnight show for all the Hp movies; the people are always surprisingly nice at the midnight shows too! :D
I need to start re-reading all the HP books, come to think of it. :p

I was rereading the Harry Potter books but then Eragon came out and I thought "wow that was a pretty neat movie" and now I'm reading that... wow they cut a lot out...

I was rereading the Harry Potter books but then Eragon came out and I thought "wow that was a pretty neat movie" and now I'm reading that... wow they cut a lot out...

OMG I know!
I hate how alot of the fantasy books then turned movie all are so short and the stories get changed around so much! The books are always better in my opinion. I never made it through the second book cause it starts a little slow, and it couldn't keep my attention.
But I don't get why they can't invest more hours into movies like Eragon and HP if they can make people sit through 3+ hours of Tom Hanks talking to a volleyball, or watching a ship sink. :rolleyes:

Midnight shows are the best!!! Drive In's are cool too! :D

OMG I know!

Midnight shows are the best!!! Drive In's are cool too! :D

midnight shows ftw!

and you forgot that we went to see teh nightmare before xmas in 3d at midnight. that was awesome!!!

midnight shows ftw!

and you forgot that we went to see teh nightmare before xmas in 3d at midnight. that was awesome!!!

Oh yeah that too.
I remember for Pirates, they had these 2 kids dressed as Pirates, one from our theatre and the other kid from another theatre...our kid kicked ass.

So, I went on a movie date tonight and the theatre we went to had this huge Saphira (dragon from Eragon-in case someone didn't know) hanging from the second floor railing looming over the consession stand. Made me think of you. :rolleyes:

I hope Harry dies at the end.

Especially if Harry were part of the Horcrux, he'd have to be killed to destroy Voldemort.

Even though that...is just...a theory. An interesting thought, though.

It was Godric's Hollow, not Hallow wasn't it.

I daresay Harry himself will be involved with the final Horcrux, but as with everything, all good things come to those who wait. I guess there'll be a million and one rumours about the book now, maybe involving Harry and Mrs Weasley having an affair, while Dumbledore faked his own death to avoid his tax problems.

I guess there'll be a million and one rumours about the book now, maybe involving Harry and Mrs Weasley having an affair, while Dumbledore faked his own death to avoid his tax problems.

LOL well J.K. Rowling already cleared up the last rumor, well part of it. She said Dumbledore was in fact dead despite all the evidence that goes against it. But she could just be saying that so that we'll be surprised. Oooh the suspense.

So why can't we just title the thread for the new book and start discussion? WTF with just posting a link to the title. I vote rename the thread.

EDIT: I've been talking with my bro about it since the title finally came out, and I'd really prefer Harry to die. But like Jasmine said, I think it would work out best if it was the only way for him to kill off Voldemort. I can't wait to read this one and put these books out of my life. Oh the suspense.

So why can't we just title the thread for the new book and start discussion? WTF with just posting a link to the title. I vote rename the thread.

EDIT: I've been talking with my bro about it since the title finally came out, and I'd really prefer Harry to die. But like Jasmine said, I think it would work out best if it was the only way for him to kill off Voldemort. I can't wait to read this one and put these books out of my life. Oh the suspense.


I posted it this way because if any of you frequent JK's site you could and still can.. play hangman to find out the title for yourself, in the secret room, and such, but I didnt post a link to that, becuase the site was down. I didnt want to ruin anyone's fun.

W00t! Title changez0red! :) That makes for a pleased Jane. I don't think the title is that big of a deal to concern yourself with. You don't ruin very much with the title... especially when it comes to HP. Isn't this book coming out in the summer? It better be.

There have been rumors of the release date being anywhere from July 7th, 2007 to October 31st.

People who live in the UK can preorder their copy on Amazon now.

From the prophecy in one of the books it was said that the only way for Voldemort to die was for Harry to die (if I remember correctly) and I remember Dumbledore telling Harry not to worry about it and that it could not come true or something like that. But killing off Harry is a fitting way to end it I think. It's a great series but I think any sort of sequel to the books would ruin it and it would definately be possible for that to happen if Harry lives. But I bet once I'm reading the book I'll still have my fingers crossed that he lives anyway.

[quote=ButterflyWishes;1041057]From the prophecy in one of the books it was said that the only way for Voldemort to die was for Harry to die (if I remember correctly) and I remember Dumbledore telling Harry not to worry about it and that it could not come true or something like that. quote]

Was that from the Order of the Pheonix? I think the prophecy was something like 'one can't live while the other survives' or something.

Can't you tell how much of a freaking geek I am lol. I didn't actually know the title had been released until reading this thread, whatever happens, I hope I'll enjoy it as much as the other books.

From the prophecy in one of the books it was said that the only way for Voldemort to die was for Harry to die (if I remember correctly) and I remember Dumbledore telling Harry not to worry about it and that it could not come true or something like that. But killing off Harry is a fitting way to end it I think. It's a great series but I think any sort of sequel to the books would ruin it and it would definately be possible for that to happen if Harry lives. But I bet once I'm reading the book I'll still have my fingers crossed that he lives anyway.
I thought it was, in all seriousness, more along the lines of one or the other MUST die for sure. There's no way that they can co-exist, but I don't think there's anything in the books about Harry having to die at all.

Anyway... I suddenly have an urge to go all Harry Potter and read those books again. >.< Dammit.

This is what the prophecy says: The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches...born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies...and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not...and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives...

::Can feel this thread exploding with HP nerds:: :o

there is no offical date..

I read them all like, a minimum of 4 times. Except for the 6th one which I only got through once because of school and stuff.

IMO, there's no way Harry's going to survive. The books closely follow that traditional sort of plotline (kind of like an Aristotelian tragedy) with the pure good vs. blackest evil sort of thing, and in those kinds of stories, the hero generally dies.

While the prophecy means just what Jane said; they can't coexist peacefully, which means that they're going to try to kill each other. But I think Jo's going to make some sort of a twist where the only way Harry can kill Voldemort is if he dies himself. Besides, otherwise she'd have little fangirls and boys begging her to keep writing books for eternity. :p

I have a whole theory of how it's going to play out after Harry destroys all the Horcruxes. Jo's obviously very big into incorporating myths and legends from around the world in her books, so you just need to look at those for clues.

There's an old British myth about the cauldron of Pwyll, Welsh lord of the underworld, which granted immortality. The mouth of the cauldron (in legends throughout history) is viewed as the gateway to the underworld, from which life emerges and death returns. In this myth, the Irish hero Bran gave the cauldron to the the corrupt king of Ireland, who used it to create an inexhaustible supply of undead soldiers, much like the Inferi in Harry Potter. (These soldiers were also mute). If one was cut down in battle, all the king had to do was put a body part into the cauldron, and a new soldier would emerge. The king's army, therefore, could never be defeated unless the cauldron was destroyed.

However, in an act of heroism, Bran's half-brother jumped into the cauldron, which destroyed it, but took his own life. Because only the dead were allowed to enter the cauldron (as the dead went through the cauldron as a path to the underworld), when a living person entered it, he died and the cauldron was destroyed.


And with the whole Voldemort regaining his body by coming out of a cauldron, I'd say this tale is going to be EXTREMELY related to the outcome in the books. Otherwise, why a cauldron? The way Jo writes, there's pretty much a reason for everything.

It's also interesting to note that JKR said that something "EXTREMELY" important would be revealed about Lily Potter in Book 6, when the only noteworthy thing seemed to be that she was good at Potions.

I also think that with the whole gateway to the underworld thing, the cauldron and the veil that Sirius Black fell through in the Department of Mysteries are closely related.
This isn't really supported in the books by anything in particular, but I think the Ministry of Magic tried to create their own cauldron of sorts (though it would be an extreme case of Dark Magic) as a form of formal execution, just like they noted in Book 6 about how the room with the veil in it seemed like an execution chamber.

Oh, and going back to Harry, do you really think he could kill Voldemort himself? Other than being "The Chosen One" he's really a normal wizard, and the only truly outstanding thing about him is is bravery. Such bravery that maybe Voldemort wouldn't count on, that he'd give his own life by jumping into the cauldron or something, which could in turn destroy Voldemort. I have no doubt that Jo will twist the legend somewhat to suit her needs, but that's what I think anyway. Using Avada Kedavra breaks your soul in pieces, and Harry's too noble for that as a hero. He'd have to indirectly kill Voldemort in order to preserve his heroic purity.

I also think that with the whole gateway to the underworld thing, the cauldron and the veil that Sirius Black fell through in the Department of Mysteries are closely related.
I think you have single-handedly proven my point. :P Not that there's anything wrong with it at all, I enjoyed reading your suspicions.

I always have a thing where I need to read the books all through when a new one comes out, so I've read the first few books many more times than the last few.

I think you have single-handedly proven my point. :P Not that there's anything wrong with it at all, I enjoyed reading your suspicions.

lol, what about being a Harry Potter nerd? I'm SO bad with it...it used to be an all out obssession. I still have a shrine on my bookshelf actually...with books that go into depth with the random historical significance of people, places, etc. in the books, which is where I read about the cauldron legend. I cried for 20 minutes when Dumbledore died. But I'm allowed my moments of dorkyness. :p


*goes through shrine*

Care for a stale dirt-flavored jellybean? :)

Care for a stale dirt-flavored jellybean? :)
All jokes aside, I think it's awesome that they created real life Bertie Botts beans. :D Those rock. And hell yes, I'll try any of them once. Because it's just that cool.

lol, okay then! *hands over a bag*

The spaghetti ones are absolutley disgusting though. The grass is actually quite good though. And the cinnamon....mmmmmm. Best. thing. ever. :)

They also make Cockroach Clusters (good, but not as good. I got one at a water park in New Jersey over the summer), Chocolate Frogs (which are AWESOME even though I haven't seen them around for a couple years. My mom got a few for me for Christmas one year), Ice Mice (I have some of those in my shrine too), and Drooble's Best Blowing Gum. I think there might be more, but they're all kind of hard to find.

They used to sell the Bertie Botts Every-Flavour Beans in movie theaters up by me, but I haven't seen those around lately either.

I agree with pretty much everything Draconian Nymph said but even if you pretty much know the ending it's how you get there that makes it worth while. I can't wait for this book. I really need to reread them but I'm stuck on Eragon at the moment and another mystery novel too. ...grrr...

Bertie Botts beans are awesome. I remember the first time I had them. I ate an ear wax and it was horrid, haha.

Coupla things keep annoying me about this.

People keep talking about correlation between the new title and Godric's Hollow. The word in the new title is Hallow (with an A) not Hollow. As in "Hallowed be thy name". Meaning something which is sacred or revered.

The other thing is all the discussion about the word "death" in the title meaning Harry's gonna die. Sorry, I don't buy it. It's Deathly not Deadly. I don't think I've ever run across the word "deathly" before.

I think the word in the title is about the Death Eaters, not death in general (or Harry's specifically).

So, I think "Deathly Hallows" is about things that are sacred to the Death Eaters. Probably the horcruxes. (... or is that Horcri?)



I could go on and on about what I think's gonna happen in book 7 ...

the three interesting things i want to see out of book 7: who is it that is already getting rid of the horcurxes before harry and dumbledore, which side was snape REALLY on, for sure??? ,and what happens to the death eaters in the end (and does snape get killed)

1. RAB. Regulus Acturus Black. It's just kind of accepted at this point, even if Jo refuses to confirm or deny it. Like she refused to say anything about the rumors that Dumbledore died.

2. I personally think he's on the good side, because Lily had compassion for him really. He COULD be on either side, but if I had to guess, my instincts tell me he's with Dumbledore. Besides, Dumbledore and Snape were arguing secretively about something in Book 6; there are theories that Dumbledore was telling Snape not to compromise his position in the Death Eaters no matter what. Dumbledore wouldn't beg for his life like that (before Snape kills him); it's against his nature. He was probably just acting.

3. It just feels like Snape should die, IMO. No particular evidence supporting that, but in this kind of series, it just seems like he will to me. As for the other Death Eaters - I can only assume that most of them will be caught by the Ministry of Magic, and others will escape and live out their days in exile. Just because that's a traditional sort of ending for a series about the traditional good vs. evil struggle. Either that or she pulls a Lord of the Rings where all of Mordor collapses and nearly every orc is slaughtered. :P

I work for one of the major bookstores in Aus,

When that book comes into the warehouse, I'm launching a ninja strike team to obtain it and run off madly, selling copies for $123123 on Ebay.

Oh yeah,

yeah but first you're going to send me a copy, right? hehe

^ Can we be your ninjas?

*stands solemnly with honour / discards own shadow*

I really need to re-read OOTP and HBP because I cant really remember what happened, just the basic outline....I am excited about the new book! And, draconian, your theory is reallllyyyy convincing XD

Has anyone else here read that people think sirius and remus were a couple? Personally, I think it is a possibility. There is a lot of evidence around and I think they would have been cute together XD Does anyone else read fanfics about "unofficial couples" (ron/hermione, harry/draco, remus/sirius ect.)

Haha. I write fanfics like that, chii_chan. Draco/Harry, Hermione/Ginny, hehe.
Can't wait for this book.

Draco/Harry FTFW! Same for Draco/Hermione and Draco/Ginny.

...Draco is pretty much hot with anyone, isn't he?

Draco/Harry FTFW! Same for Draco/Hermione and Draco/Ginny.

...Draco is pretty much hot with anyone, isn't he?

XD Eh, I'm not that into him, I just mostly like Remus/Sirius especially when its in the marauders (i cant spell) era, its so funny! Sirius is so goofy and Remus is all serious XD (or should I say sirius?)

Has anyone else here read that people think sirius and remus were a couple? Personally, I think it is a possibility. There is a lot of evidence around and I think they would have been cute together XD Does anyone else read fanfics about "unofficial couples" (ron/hermione, harry/draco, remus/sirius ect.)

XD Eh, I'm not that into him, I just mostly like Remus/Sirius especially when its in the marauders (i cant spell) era, its so funny! Sirius is so goofy and Remus is all serious XD (or should I say sirius?)
Yeah you've totally just read too much fanfiction. I don't think there's a lot of real evidence for that in the books. They were really good friends, and I can't see either of them being gay. There's really no evidence for that.

XD Eh, I'm not that into him, I just mostly like Remus/Sirius especially when its in the marauders (i cant spell) era, its so funny! Sirius is so goofy and Remus is all serious XD (or should I say sirius?)

Yes yes yes! Have you read Shoebox Project?

Damn, where have I been?? I just found out the title today as I read this thread. Oh yea.. my bloody computer died! F%*&

Anyway...

Draconian, if the final chapters of the Deathy Hollows is starting to seem all too familiar to me from reading your post, I am coming for you for ruining the ending you SPOILER BIOTCH! :mad:

:P

Draconian, if the final chapters of the Deathy Hollows is starting to seem all too familiar to me from reading your post, I am coming for you for ruining the ending you SPOILER BIOTCH! :mad:

:P


*giggles evilly, ninja-vanishes*

Here's to hoping I'm wrong then. :p

*giggles evilly, ninja-vanishes*

Here's to hoping I'm wrong then. :p

Yea, you better hope you are wrong cause if not, I shall be coming after your ninja ass. :p

JULY 21st 2007!!!!!!!!!! the book is out!!!!!

Jeez, I'm a little behind. I only found out the title of the book like a week ago. I used to be a total Harry Potter geek.. I had Harry Potter books, stationary, shoes, a jacket, all the unofficial books.. And I have every card you can get from the chocolate frogs (There were 30, I think), in order of how the story goes, too. Yep, I was that much of a loser. It took me like a year to find them all. The chocolate in those was so good, too.. I was really pissed when they stopped selling them.

Aaanyways.. Wow, I haven't read the HP books in forever. I can hardly even remember what happened in the last one. I suppose that means I'll have to read them all again before the new one comes out. It'll be interesting to see all the rumors for it, though. I remember when the last one came out, there was some crazy shit out there..

JULY 21st 2007!!!!!!!!!! the book is out!!!!!

*Squeeee*
I can't wait.

July 21!!!! *counts down the days*

That's the day of my best friend's birthday...I'll be like yeah, I'm ditching your party for a book release. ;)

July 21!!!! *counts down the days*

That's the day of my best friend's birthday...I'll be like yeah, I'm ditching your party for a book release. ;)

LOL!! I got my best friend book 5 for his birthday, and we just sat there during his family party reading it all day long.

Three more days til it's released. Of course, some idiot's already leaked it. :rolleyes:

i havent read any of the books, i want to now... but thats a lot of reading to do.

anyone know where i can find a summary?

I can't wait for this book. though, I'll read it in English, 'cause I would have to wait 'till the next year probably to get it in Croatian...
zoey, I don't know where you can get summary... maybe wikipedia?
though, I would recommend to read all of them anyway...

i havent read any of the books, i want to now... but thats a lot of reading to do.

anyone know where i can find a summary?

Like milas said, you can find a summary of the books at wikipedia. You should definitely read the books though; once you get into them, it doesn't seem like a lot of reading.

^yeah, it took me only like 2, 3 days the most for one book. and I usually hate reading. it's not really hard to get into it...

well.. yeah, i mean, i could probably finish the each book in a few days. i love to read...

BUT, i have a 3 month old now, and when she doesnt have my full attention.. im am resting or sleeping or cleaning. not much time to do anything anymore :(

Oh I know what you can do! My aunt used to do this. You can go to the local book store and buy the book-tapes. I forgot what they're called but they basically read the book to you. Its not the movies. Like in english class you follow along in you book and you'd have this guy on a cassette tape read it to you. They shouldn't be that expensive. I hope that helped a little bit..

well.. yeah, i mean, i could probably finish the each book in a few days. i love to read...

BUT, i have a 3 month old now, and when she doesnt have my full attention.. im am resting or sleeping or cleaning. not much time to do anything anymore :(

awww... yeah, babies take alot of free time. No, I'm not mom, but I was babysitting my nephew when she was little, and she really wanted ALL the attention to herself...
I knew to be realy exhausted...
so, maybe Arwen's advice is good :)

I so cannot wait.

-schro

I would love to get into reading these books. But I have a 5 year old who takes up alot of my attention. any time i am doing anything, she has to be in the middle of it. I might just get the series and read her the books. She's really getting into harry potter. She was mad because I didn't take her to OOTP the first day it was in theaters.

I really can't wait for the release of the last book, I'm currently reading the 6th one (yes, I know I'm late- I just didn't have enough time for it). But I've already read who's going to die in the 7th book and I'm quite shocked, actually. :eek:

Where did you read it? There was one site that claimed one of the characters had been killed off and it turned out to be fake. Btw, I don't know who dies and I don't wanna know. I like my HP suprises XD

I read it on a website with spoilers and everything posted on there seemed to be true. . . at least that was my impression.

I read it on a website with spoilers and everything posted on there seemed to be true. . . at least that was impression.

I think I know what website you're talking about. lol I refuse to believe the death spoiler, it's too sad. :(

I'm so psyched for the midnight party on Friday. I can't ever remember being so excited for a Harry Potter book, lol.

I'm a little sad, because I'm going to miss all the build-up and excitement that comes with waiting for a new book :( I'll be glad to finally know all the answers at last, though ;)

I had read a couple of spoilers as well. Hard to believe. But I guessw we'll see the truth on the 21st.

There's a site that has supposive spoilers but it also has pictures of the book..

that completely contradict the guys spoilers.


It's humours

i found the book on a torrent site and downloaded it. it's the real thing guys. don't worry i deleted it. i'm gonna buy the real thing. but it's gonna be hard for everyone to stop the book froem being downloaded.

-schro

i downloaded the first 10 chapters. i have no idea if it is real or not. more than likely, i'll just go buy it.

Hermione dies.

I know the sad truth. :(










Snape kills Optimus Prime.

don't worry i deleted it.

Pssh, fucking tell me where the .torrent file is!

Pssh, fucking tell me where the .torrent file is!

hey n00bbutt, here's an idea google: deathly hallows torrent.

Yeah but all the ones I found were craptacular.

Apparently theres a guy who was taking photos of AALL of the pages.

Aahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha NEW SECRET SPOILERS BUWHAHA

your avatar is awesome

:eek: Amazing avatar Lirael lol

I've got the real deal in pdf, and I'm actually at the 8th chapter. This book has been excellent this far, and I can't wait to finish it. Such an amazing job :cool:

I thought Ron died not Hermoine

-schro

:eek: Amazing avatar Lirael lol

I've got the real deal in pdf, and I'm actually at the 8th chapter. This book has been excellent this far, and I can't wait to finish it. Such an amazing job :cool:

yeah, i have it too.. i tried reading it, but it hurt my eyes too much. lol

yeah, i have it too.. i tried reading it, but it hurt my eyes too much. lol

I have just finished the 8th chapter, and I can't believe what I read: The Ministry, what will happen next? :eek: This book is so exciting!!!!

damn, you guys are so lucky... :(
I want to read it too...

damn, you guys are so lucky... :(
I want to read it too...

Give me your email and I can send it to you :)

BTW, aren't you "amy_lynn_lee" @ EvWebsite? :eek:

bought the book today. will be a while before i read it tho. I also bought the first six books today. i figure while they still had some first editions of them, i would pick them up.

wow, how much did you spend?

wow, how much did you spend?
haha too much since I bought hardback books. most expensive one was the order of the phoenix. it was 30 bucks. rest were around 15. I coulda got the paperback for about 6 bucks. but i want something durable and lasting so that my daughter will be able to read them when she gets older. she loves the movies.

I wanted to buy the book today but it was already sold out. >.< Now I have to wait until Monday.

Could someone who already has the book post the first part of the book? The first paragraph, or sentence if you're feeling a little lazy. Thanks :)

Just finished Reading Deathly Hallows....aside from the minor killing off of 10 characters....it was pretty good. Definately the best book to date.

I finished it yesterday... the day it went out in fact ... :mrgreen: I really like the last chapter...but somehow...I don't really appreciate the epilogue ...it is quite strange to read the end of the HP serie... well there's still the movies to watch it'll keep the fans quiet for some years a least...

I finished it yesterday... the day it went out in fact ... :mrgreen: I really like the last chapter...but somehow...I don't really appreciate the epilogue ...it is quite strange to read the end of the HP serie... well there's still the movies to watch it'll keep the fans quiet for some years a least...

I kind of agree. I was expecting something more..definate. I had an expectation that this would be the end..the final end and the series could never go on, no matter which way you put it.

The epilogue kind of ruined what I was expecting I guess..

Aw I liked the epilogue. I thought it was so sweet. :)

Loved the book. A lot. If my parents weren't reading it now, I'd totally re-read it lol.

"All is well." sounds like there's more left. It really bugs me. Almost as if its a morse code message.

There were people signing petitions to "Save Harry," as in... Bringing back the HP books for another go. I didnt sign it because I felt like the story's been told and thats that. No reason to overkill.

Give me your email and I can send it to you :)

BTW, aren't you "amy_lynn_lee" @ EvWebsite? :eek:

hey, sweetie :)
I think you have my MSN here, you can send me e-mail to that address :)
yep, I'm amy_lynn_lee on Ev.it :)
though, I THINK I have the real one...

"All is well." sounds like there's more left. It really bugs me. Almost as if its a morse code message.

There were people signing petitions to "Save Harry," as in... Bringing back the HP books for another go. I didnt sign it because I felt like the story's been told and thats that. No reason to overkill.

I agree with you. The story has been told, and keeping telling it would just kill the story.

Jo said this was the end of the stoy about harry potter. what his kids actually get up to in hogwarts well.....thats not exactly about Harry and crew, is it?

(she has to keep making money somehow.......)

If that were true. she could have started with James, Sirius, Snape, etc, instead of Harry, and then move onto Harry. Anyway, I wouldn't like more books :words:

hey, sweetie :)
I think you have my MSN here, you can send me e-mail to that address :)
yep, I'm amy_lynn_lee on Ev.it :)
though, I THINK I have the real one...

Nice to see you over here :) I will send the book now :p

^thanx, I just got it :)

I have the book but havn't read it. but from what I've heard. it's very open to have another book if Rowling wishes.

^well, she said she could write the next book in 10 years, just if she feels like it... :)

(she has to keep making money somehow.......)

Haha, yeah, I'm sure she could use a bit more money. :p

JK has managed to kill off 4.5/6 of my favourite characters. Not cool.

I was pleased with the ending. Not really the epilogue, but the ending was nice.

And I knew Snape loved Lily..

^damn, I almost read the rest of your post.
you guys are tempting me :p

okay, I'm going to read...

the book was amazing...too many murders though but whatever, i wasnt too pleased with the epilogue but it served its purpose i guess...
still a great book though

I JUST started reading it in English. The translated book here will take a while to be done... English is getting confusing there but i'm getting somewhere. I'm super interested right now, i hope i can finish it till tomorrow max.

I just finished reading the book, and I must say that it's pretty awesome. I cried a little bit, especially at the parts that talk about Snape and Lily. Poor guy. :( This is my favorite HP book yet.

I'm very slowly getting through it. When I'm not on the computer doing something which is rare but what I've read so far is great

When I have money I'll buy one. ::mrgreen::
I'm so ansious to read it.
The translation to portuguese will be done only in October/November, so I'm going to read in english; it will be excelent for my pratice. ;)

That epilogue was crap.

WHAT ABOUT LOONY LOVEGOOD?!

<3 Luuuunaaaaaaaaaa

The epilogue was extremely corny, I wish I never read it ¬¬

but overall, it was a good book

For those of you so upset with the Epilogue (I know I was):

Additionally, Jo announced that she "probably will" create a Harry Potter encyclopedia! From NBC's website:

The encyclopedia would include back stories of characters she has already written but had to cut for the sake of narrative arc (“I've said before that Dean Thomas had a much more interesting history than ever appeared in the books”), as well as details about the characters who survive “Deathly Hallows,” characters who continue to live on in Rowling’s mind in a clearly defined magical world.

From here. (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19935372/)

<3 Luuuunaaaaaaaaaa

fo real!

Luna FTW

She was one of my favourite characters from the start... I like the eccentricness of her and her father, makes me smile in the inside and go all goey and shit.

if she creates that encyclopedia that would be fantastic!!!!

Wikipedia works just as well as any encyclopedia she'd make, though it's not official. Just wiki any harry potter term and you have all the information you could ever want at your fingertips.

I must say.... Neville FTMFW. He just plain kicked major ass in this one.

Wikipedia works just as well as any encyclopedia she'd make, though it's not official. Just wiki any harry potter term and you have all the information you could ever want at your fingertips.

no, people who write wiki don't know anything about the characters after deathly hallows, which is what she'd write about.

and luna is one of my favourite characters, too.

No Luna? I have to read that! *Runs to continue reading*

I hope she does that encyclopedia. It's right that people at wikipedia don't know what jk does, so that encyclopedia would be more accurate :)

Evanna Lynch (who, IMO, was perfect) made me really like Luna more than I used to.



And I'm also quite excited for the possible encyclopedia.

That epilogue was crap.

WHAT ABOUT LOONY LOVEGOOD?!

Not to mention Teddy's still in school... 19 years later. Uhh. They go until they're 17. 18 at most.

JK Rowling has clarified about some of the characters left out in the epilogue:


Finished ‘Potter’? Rowling tells what happens next

If you found the epilogue of “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows” rather vague, then J.K. Rowling achieved her goal.

The author was shooting for “nebulous,” something “poetic.” She wanted the readers to feel as if they were looking at Platform 9¾ through the mist, unable to make out exactly who was there and who was not.

“I do, of course, have that information for you, should you require it,” she told TODAY’s Meredith Vieira rather coyly in her first interview since fans got their hands on the final book.
Ummm … yes, please!

Rowling said her original epilogue was “a lot more detailed,” including the name of every child born to the Weasley clan in the past 19 years. (Victoire, who was snogging Teddy — Lupin and Tonks’ son — is Bill and Fleur’s eldest.)

“But it didn’t work very well as a piece of writing,” Rowling said. “It felt very much that I had crowbarred in every bit of information I could … In a novel you have to resist the urge to tell everything.”

But now that the seventh and final novel is in the hands of her adoring public, Rowling no longer has to hold back any information about Harry Potter from her fans. And when 14 fans crowded around her in Edinburgh Castle in Scotland earlier this week as part of TODAY’s interview, Rowling was more than willing to share her thoughts about what Harry and his friends are up to now.

Harry, Ron and Hermione
We know that Harry marries Ginny and has three kids, essentially, as Rowling explains, creating the family and the peace and calm he never had as a child.

As for his occupation, Harry, along with Ron, is working at the Auror Department at the Ministry of Magic. After all these years, Harry is now the department head.

“Harry and Ron utterly revolutionized the Auror Department,” Rowling said. “They are now the experts. It doesn’t matter how old they are or what else they’ve done.”

Meanwhile, Hermione, Ron’s wife, is “pretty high up” in the Department of Magical Law Enforcement, despite laughing at the idea of becoming a lawyer in “Deathly Hallows.”

“I would imagine that her brainpower and her knowledge of how the Dark Arts operate would really give her a sound grounding,” Rowling said.

Harry, Ron and Hermione don’t join the same Ministry of Magic they had been at odds with for years; they revolutionize it and the ministry evolves into a “really good place to be.”

“They made a new world,” Rowling said.

The wizarding naturalist
Luna Lovegood, the eccentric Ravenclaw who was fascinated with Crumple-Horned Snorkacks and Umgubular Slashkilters, continues to march to the beat of her own drum.

“I think that Luna is now traveling the world looking for various mad creatures,” Rowling said. “She’s a naturalist, whatever the wizarding equivalent of that is.”

Luna comes to see the truth about her father, eventually acknowledging there are some creatures that don’t exist.

“But I do think that she’s so open-minded and just an incredible person that she probably would be uncovering things that no one’s ever seen before,” Rowling said.

Luna and Neville Longbottom?
It’s possible Luna has also found love with another member of the D.A.

When she was first asked about the possibility of Luna hooking up with Neville Longbottom several years ago, Rowling’s response was “Definitely not.” But as time passed and she watched her characters mature, Rowling started to “feel a bit of a pull” between the unlikely pair.

Ultimately, Rowling left the question of their relationship open at the end of the book because doing otherwise “felt too neat.”

Mr. and Mrs. Longbottom: “The damage is done.”

There is no chance, however, that Neville’s parents, who were tortured into madness by Bellatrix Lestrange, ever left St. Mungo’s Hospital for Magical Maladies.

“I know people really wanted some hope for that, and I can quite see why because, in a way, what happens to Neville’s parents is even worse than what happened to Harry’s parents,” Rowling said. “The damage that is done, in some cases with very dark magic, is done permanently.”

Rowling said Neville finds happiness in his grandmother’s acceptance of him as a gifted wizard and as the new herbology professor at Hogwarts.

The fate of Hogwarts
Nineteen years after the Battle of Hogwarts, the school for witchcraft and wizardry is led by an entirely new headmaster (“McGonagall was really getting on a bit”) as well as a new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. That position is now as safe as the other teaching posts at Hogwarts, since Voldemort’s death broke the jinx that kept a Defense Against the Dark Arts professor from remaining for more than a year.

While Rowling didn’t clarify whether Harry, Ron and Hermione ever return to school to finish their seventh year, she did say she could see Harry popping up every now and again to give the “odd talk” on Defense Against the Dark Arts.

More details to come?
Rowling said she may eventually reveal more details in a Harry Potter encyclopedia, but even then, it will never be enough to satisfy the most ardent of her fans.

“I’m dealing with a level of obsession in some of my fans that will not rest until they know the middle names of Harry’s great-great-grandparents,” she said. Not that she’s discouraging the Potter devotion!

“I love it,” she said. “I’m all for that.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19959323/

Not to mention Teddy's still in school... 19 years later. Uhh. They go until they're 17. 18 at most.

He wasn't in school. I reread it and it said he was seeing off his girlfriend, Victoire, who was probably around 16-17. It never said he was going as well. Just a big misunderstanding on that part.

That makes more sense then.

Evanna Lynch (who, IMO, was perfect) made me really like Luna more than I used to.

I think she hit Luna spot on.

Most the actors are cast pretty well. Bella & Umbridge were perfect, too.

I can honestly say the only actors I'm really not pleased with are Emma Watson (who can't act her way out of a box) and David Thewlis (not because he's bad, I just don't like him as Lupin).

Most the actors are cast pretty well. Bella & Umbridge were perfect, too.

oooh Umbridge was so perfect, she did such a great job.

for me... that book was good.. but the end? WTF? that was the perfect hallmark moment, i hate that

oooh Umbridge was so perfect, she did such a great job.

God, I hated Umbridge in the last movie, and that means she did, as you've said, a really great job.
And about the new book, I loved it, I finished reading the book in 2 days! I liked very much the end and the couples :mrgreen:

I liked it! I was so not excited for it because my insanely-die-hard fan-friends would not stop talking about it for months and I got sick of hearing about it. But yeah, I liked it and it was different to what I was expecting.

One thing I didn't get at all until someone pointed it out was why Snape said "Look at me." But once I did get it... *tears*

One thing I didn't get at all until someone pointed it out was why Snape said "Look at me." But once I did get it... *tears*

*sniffles* I know! The whole Snape/Lily story made me cry a lot.

That epilogue was crap.

WHAT ABOUT LOONY LOVEGOOD?!

ditto.
I'm gonna pretend the epilouge doesn't exist cause it was the lamest thing ever. I was glad there was one, but also not. I had to reread it like three times cause I could'nt take in all the names. It would've been better if it wasn't that far ahead, like say a year later.

The epilouge works perfectly for what it was designed to do, I think. It pretty much prevents anyone else from ever being able to expand the story line into an extended universe, like they've done with star wars.

I just finished reading the book last night (I ended up crying!). I was extremely pleased with the ending, but also saddened that this was the last book.

This is one of the best books in the series and it couldnt have ended any better imo :)

The story was alright, but sometimes it feels like it's just rushing through. For the most part it was just the three main characters, and to be honest, they can get on your nerves quite easily. And then those brief encounters with the rest of the characters to make you feel like they weren't forgotten. Did we really need to know more about Sirius if he was already dead? Some of the deaths seemed laughable at times, killing off an owl, wow that really changes the story:rolleyes:

The ending is good, but the Epilogue was one of the most frustrating things to read. Sure it was supposed to prevent the story from going on, but give the readers something better than that!

The ending is good, but the Epilogue was one of the most frustrating things to read. Sure it was supposed to prevent the story from going on, but give the readers something better than that!

Oy gevahlt.

See more here (http://www.evboard.com/showpost.php?p=1052278&postcount=131).

Did we really need to know more about Sirius if he was already dead?

Of course. Sirius is the best character everrr after Lupin!

Some of the deaths seemed laughable at times, killing off an owl, wow that really changes the story:rolleyes:


But it was sad. I found all the deaths to be quite realistic, actually. I'm tired of people calling certain characters deaths pointless. Was she just supposed to have a war and then one dramatic death (Fred, I suppose) and everyone else live?

Some of the deaths seemed laughable at times, killing off an owl, wow that really changes the story:rolleyes:



:eek: Hedwig dying was one of the most emotional* moments in the book for me! Hedwig was his only link to the magical world at the Dursley's. She was his friend. And she didn't have to die.

Of course, I have a pet bird and I may be more susceptible to avian-death scenes.

*in that I actually reacted to it. I don't really cry when reading books.

wel the book came out in english here in holland and didn't want to wait until it was translated so i got it from my mom and i finished it in a litlle more than 2 days but for me the part where Hedwig died was so vague i first didn't realy get it and the way J.K.Rowling describes it so lifgtly like it's nothing
before i started reading i had questions about how it would end and stuff but now i finished it it just left me with more questions

It was a really good book. I finished it in 2 days. I had to cause I got it two days before I went to camp. So I was happy to finish it but then again I wasn't you know? Ah well nonetheless it was awesome.

-schro

More has been learned about the world of HP.
http://the-leaky-cauldron.org/2007/7/30/j-k-rowling-web-chat-transcript
(Some parts are missing)

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/14261248.html#cutid1
(Part of the transcript there)

And there's additional information from a previous interview here (http://www.evboard.com/showpost.php?p=1052278&postcount=131).

Nice, them links are quite a read!

Finished the book last night, took me just over a week because some chapters I just couldn't be bothered to read really, lol, like the one about Kreacher. But, overall I think it was a great read. The best book for me, def.

There is one thing though, when I was reading this part I was trying to pay aw much attention as possible but it was past midnight and I missed it, but why didn't Harry die? When he let Voldermort use the Killing Curse?

Nice, them links are quite a read!

Finished the book last night, took me just over a week because some chapters I just couldn't be bothered to read really, lol, like the one about Kreacher. But, overall I think it was a great read. The best book for me, def.

There is one thing though, when I was reading this part I was trying to pay aw much attention as possible but it was past midnight and I missed it, but why didn't Harry die? When he let Voldermort use the Killing Curse?

because harry was a horcrux when voldemort used the killing curse on him all he managed to kill was the 8th part of his soul that was trapped inside harry

because harry was a horcrux when voldemort used the killing curse on him all he managed to kill was the 8th part of his soul that was trapped inside harry

So... was it just that instead of killing Harry he just somply killed the part of his soul, and not Harry? Hahaa.. duh

I'm rather confused.

In the 6th book, Dumbledore said Voldemort created 7 parts to his soul in different items, but in the 7th, he said Harry was the accidental 7th horcrux. But, then that would mean Voldemort created 7+ Harry which= 8. Help.

Horcruxes:
Nagini
Locket
Cup
Crown
Riddle's Diary
Ring
Harry?

Am I missing something? Or is this correct?

Horcruxes:
Nagini
Locket
Cup
Crown
Riddle's Diary
Ring
Harry?

Am I missing something? Or is this correct?

I guess this is correct.

EDIT: oh wait, and wasn't the ring The resurrection stone as well?

Voldermort created 6 Horcrux's, and then Harry was the 7th accidental. But his soul was still into 8 parts, as of course part of his soul was still in the actual Voldermort.

If that makes sense and clears anything up? Haha

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horcrux#Lord_Voldemort.27s_Horcruxes

(I'm a Wikipedia fiend, thanks)



InterEscence - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horcrux#Marvolo_Gaunt.27s_Ring.2FResurrection_Ston e

6 horcrux + harry + voldermort = 8

It was an interesting twist how she managed to kill Harry but not actually kill him. She appeased both sides of the fence in one fell swoop.

How did this book rate for you guys compared to the others?

It was my favourite after OotP & PoA.

i liked the prisoner of azkaban and the chamber of secrets the best

It was my favourite after OotP & PoA.
I agree. These three are the best of the series, I feel.



It was an interesting twist how she managed to kill Harry but not actually kill him. She appeased both sides of the fence in one fell swoop.
Not good enough for me. I wanted the damn protagonist to die. I didn't want him getting the choice to live. Whatever.

Ha ha, I'm glad he didn't die - but I really wish she had written the epilogue differently.

I finally finished reading The Deathly Hallows. Yeh, I know I'm slow, but I had to wait for my sister to read it first.

I really enjoyed it. Although I did cry for most of the last third or so of the book. lol.

The epilogue could have been better though - I wanted to find out what happened to some of the other members of the DA etc. Then again, I guess that would have taken a whole new book to write that. lol.

The epilogue could have been better though - I wanted to find out what happened to some of the other members of the DA etc. Then again, I guess that would have taken a whole new book to write that. lol.

Holy crap look back a page or two. (http://www.evboard.com/showpost.php?p=1054148&postcount=150)


:)

Thanks for that. :) I saw that, but I still think the epilogue was lacking somewhat. I can't really explain it properly, it's just what I thought when I read it.

I got around to reading the book lately and thought it was lovely. It's definitely my favorite book in the series. The only other book that just really sat well with me was CoS. None of the others really grabbed my interest and captivated my full attention as these two did.

Loved the ending btw, and the epilogue. Don't know why so many people (here at least) seem disappointed or upset with it in some way. It was just right for an epilogue and filled the space nicely.

Hmm. I'm curious as to whether Harry lost the transferred powers and abilities from Voldemort when Voldemort destroyed the part of the soul within Harry. Just thought of that now; I probably wasn't reading the end there carefully enough.

I was terribly upset that Hedwig was killed so quickly into the story... such a sad moment. And killing Fred was upsetting as well. But the deaths absolutely went well with the storyline.

As a final sidenote: I also greatly enjoyed the additional revealed backgrounds of Snape and Dumbledore. Great book, really.

Hmm. I'm curious as to whether Harry lost the transferred powers and abilities from Voldemort when Voldemort destroyed the part of the soul within Harry. Just thought of that now; I probably wasn't reading the end there carefully enough.

In one of the interviews, Rowling stated that Harry can no longer understand Parseltongue.

In one of the interviews, Rowling stated that Harry can no longer understand Parseltongue.


well...that kinda sux...not that he needs that ablility anymore but still

In one of the interviews, Rowling stated that Harry can no longer understand Parseltongue.
Definitely answers my question. That makes me kind of sad. In one of the other books it was mentioned by Dumbledore that there have been some wizards that have spoken Parseltongue that didn't go sour... buuuut, they only ever mention Harry, and Parseltongue wasn't unique to Harry. Oh well, anyway, I'm glad these books are over with.

Yeah, I am bummed about Harry's inability to speak Parseltongue. It was really sexy. :p I got chills every time he did it in the books....I had dreams that I could also speak Parseltongue and I felt like such a badass. Then me and Harry could run away together and form a colony of snakes to do our bidding....

Anyway...

Yeah, I am bummed about Harry's inability to speak Parseltongue. It was really sexy. :p I got chills every time he did it in the books....I had dreams that I could also speak Parseltongue and I felt like such a badass. Then me and Harry could run away together and form a colony of snakes to do our bidding....

Anyway...

Keep it in your pants, Nagini. :)

Haha, I love how we are suddenly hearing all these stories about people that have dreamed about Harry Potter in some way. But seriously... the loss of the Parseltongue thing sucks. I always thought it made Harry unique in that he could do it. And I'm kind of pissed off that he doesn't miss it (according to Jo). That's bullshit.

R.I.P. Parseltongue Harry
You will be missed.

Haha, I love how we are suddenly hearing all these stories about people that have dreamed about Harry Potter in some way. But seriously... the loss of the Parseltongue thing sucks. I always thought it made Harry unique in that he could do it. And I'm kind of pissed off that he doesn't miss it (according to Jo). That's bullshit.

R.I.P. Parseltongue Harry
You will be missed.


:rofl: Yeah I suppose it was pretty cool but then again, would you want a talent that belonged to the person who killed your parents? What kinda bugged me was when Ron and Hermione went to the COS and Ron spoke Parseltongue...I was reading going WTF??

:rofl: Yeah I suppose it was pretty cool but then again, would you want a talent that belonged to the person who killed your parents? What kinda bugged me was when Ron and Hermione went to the COS and Ron spoke Parseltongue...I was reading going WTF??

I totally thought they had ran off to have a quickie before they fought... Then when I read that I was like "Well, that was the stupidest, most unneeded thing ever."

I totally thought they had ran off to have a quickie before they fought... Then when I read that I was like "Well, that was the stupidest, most unneeded thing ever."

:rofl: A quickie??!! I know the books had grown up...but that might be too grown-up!!! :p

On a whole I was pleased with the book, and was reduced to tears on many occasions (Dobby, Fred, Lupin, Tonks, Snape and his memories).
I was glad when Jo answered the other questions in the webchat too cause there were a few loose ends left.

Keep it in your pants, Nagini. :)


:p Okay, Harry just ultimately saved the world. Can you blame a girl for wanting to hit that? Who is with me. Honestly. :D

^^im with you......

What kinda bugged me was when Ron and Hermione went to the COS and Ron spoke Parseltongue...I was reading going WTF??
Well all you had to say was "open" in Parseltongue. And Ron heard Harry say it back in their second year, and earlier in the book. So I'm sure Ron could pick up that one word and have a successful go at it. Besides it did say he had to try a few times before he got it right. Give the kid some credit, yo.

:p Okay, Harry just ultimately saved the world. Can you blame a girl for wanting to hit that? Who is with me. Honestly. :D
If he buffed up a bit and ditched the glasses I'd be all over that too. I'm sorry, but... black hair and green eyes? EXCUSE ME. ::Swoon::

I don't remember if it was in this thread or somewhere else that someone was confused about the Polyjuice Potion voice thingy... in the books their voices DO change. I don't know why they decided to not have the voices change for the movies... it was just something that got switched in the book to movie process. Maybe to help the audience follow along with the idea that Harry and Ron were just disguised as Crabbe and Goyle?

If he buffed up a bit and ditched the glasses I'd be all over that too. I'm sorry, but... black hair and green eyes? EXCUSE ME. ::Swoon::



I have a few friends that have long black hair, bright green eyes, and are pale.They are hot! It's called a Finish type, because almost all the guys (and girls) in Finland look exactly like that. But I'm not from Finland, I'm from Croatia where those kind of guys are rare!

I don't remember if it was in this thread or somewhere else that someone was confused about the Polyjuice Potion voice thingy... in the books their voices DO change. I don't know why they decided to not have the voices change for the movies... it was just something that got switched in the book to movie process. Maybe to help the audience follow along with the idea that Harry and Ron were just disguised as Crabbe and Goyle?

yeah, when I watched the second movie and their voices didn't change I was a little confused but maybe its like you say, they didn't change their voices because they wanted the audience to follow the idea of harry and ron like crabbe and goyle

If he buffed up a bit and ditched the glasses I'd be all over that too. I'm sorry, but... black hair and green eyes? EXCUSE ME. ::Swoon::


*Sigh* Yeah. It's a pity the movie makers can't tell the difference between blue eyes and green....brown hair and black....sleek hair and bushy hair....normal teeth and two large front teeth…periwinkle-blue dress robes and a frilly pink dress…. Everyone just looks a slight on the wrong side in the movies for me. James and Lily look entirely too old. I've personally never seen two twenty-one year olds look like a middle-aged couple (okay, so maybe they don't look that old, but I'm ranting.). Perhaps they aged in the after-life. /sarcasm. Every time someone tells Harry he has Lily's eyes in the movies, I honestly want to stick a fork in their eyeballs. Because their eyes are obviously failing them anyway. It ticks me off to no end. Okay, so most aspects of the movies do, but I’m off topic….


As for the book, I was in awe. Jo seriously couldn't have given a better ending to the series. I was in tears the whole time I had the thing. I refused to open it past the title page for the longest time. And once I did, I cried a bucket. Then, the frequent times I cried during the book. (Lily and James' grave, Ron leaving, Dobby, Fred, Harry in Sirius' room, 'I open at the close', Remus and Tonks, and many others) Sirius has been my favorite character since the end of PoA, so I've been pretty much depressed since OotP. (Random side note: I hated the movie. They ruined his death and made him seem like a delusional arsehole.) Remus was my back-up favorite - my only hope at mild sanity - and then he died. I thought I'd have to be committed. If he'd been given an actual death scene, I'd seriously be in a padded room right now. I had to stop reading at that point and it took me a while to stop crying. It helped to get to see him so soon after it, though. And seeing Sirius! And James and Lily! That was, in my opinion, the absolute best scene out of the entire series. It was so beautiful. And, of course, I had to cry when I closed the book….


I'm still in denial. It hasn't hit me that it's over yet. And I'm hoping it won't hit me for a long while, because when it does….it won't be pretty. :(

*Sigh* Yeah. It's a pity the movie makers can't tell the difference between blue eyes and green....brown hair and black....sleek hair and bushy hair....normal teeth and two large front teeth…periwinkle-blue dress robes and a frilly pink dress…. Everyone just looks a slight on the wrong side in the movies for me. James and Lily look entirely too old. I've personally never seen two twenty-one year olds look like a middle-aged couple (okay, so maybe they don't look that old, but I'm ranting.). Perhaps they aged in the after-life. /sarcasm. Every time someone tells Harry he has Lily's eyes in the movies, I honestly want to stick a fork in their eyeballs. Because their eyes are obviously failing them anyway. It ticks me off to no end. Okay, so most aspects of the movies do, but I’m off topic….

Couldn't agree more.

REVEALED:
Dumbledore is GAY! Sooo awesome!!
From TLC:
"If I had known this would have made you this happy, I would have announced it years ago."
The question was: Did Dumbledore, who believed in the prevailing power of love, ever fall in love himself?

JKR: My truthful answer to you... I always thought of Dumbledore as gay. [ovation.] ... Dumbledore fell in love with Grindelwald, and that that added to his horror when Grindelwald showed himself to be what he was. To an extent, do we say it excused Dumbledore a little more because falling in love can blind us to an extent? But, he met someone as brilliant as he was, and rather like Bellatrix he was very drawn to this brilliant person, and horribly, terribly let down by him. Yeah, that's how i always saw Dumbledore. In fact, recently I was in a script read through for the sixth film, and they had Dumbledore saying a line to Harry early in the script saying I knew a girl once, whose hair... [laughter]. I had to write a little note in the margin and slide it along to the scriptwriter, "Dumbledore's gay!" [laughter] "If I'd known it would make you so happy, I would have announced it years ago!"

Jo also said after revelation: "You needed something to keep you going for the next 10 years! ...Oh, my god, the fan fiction now, eh?"

Also revealed:
Jo also revealed that Neville Longbottom married Hufflepuff Hannah Abbott and she was to become the landlady at the iconic Leaky Cauldron Pub. She thought that people would find the fact of Neville's living over a pub particularly cool.



Equally large revelations were made concerning Petunia Dursley when Jo answered the question of what Petunia could not bring herself to say when Harry and the Dursleys parted ways before his seventeenth birthday. She would have wished him luck, saying:





"I do know what you're up against and I hope it's okay."


Information on the original Order members was also revealed during tonight's event. Jo related the fact that Remus Lupin, prior to the third book, was unemployable because he was a werewolf and upon his graduation from Hogwarts along with James and Lily, was supported by James using their own money. In addition to this she shed more light on the early days of the Order, saying James, Sirius, Remus and Lily were full time Order members. "Full Time Fighters," as Jo put it.



Jo also went into further detail about the many portraits in the wizarding world and their occupants. An occupant can only move freely to other portraits in their dwelling or to another portrait in which they are depicted. She also revealed that Harry himself made sure that the portrait of Snape made it into the Headmasters Office, but doubts that he ever went to speak to it.



Life debts were another subject discussed during tonight's question and answer session. It was revealed that Draco Malfoy does not owe Harry a life debt. While speaking briefly on the Elder wand, Jo did not detail the the core of this extraordinary wand. Hagrid never married and James and Lily went into hiding shortly after she first became pregnant with Harry.



Finally, speaking about her personal feelings and experiences of the past seventeen years with the boy wizard, Jo said finishing the first book and the seventh book produced very similar feelings. She also admits that she was very difficult to live with for the weeks following her completing the last book in the "Harry Potter" series.


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whole session....source (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2007/10/20/j-k-rowling-at-carnegie-hall-reveals-dumbledore-is-gay-neville-marries-hannah-abbott-and-scores-more)

J. K. Rowling at Carnegie Hall Reveals Dumbledore is Gay; Neville Marries Hannah Abbott, and Much More


First, the biggest revelation of the night came when Jo revealed to her audience the fact that Albus Dumbledore is gay and had fallen in love with fellow wizard and friend, Gellert Grindelwald. This elicited a huge reaction and prolonged ovation. So much so, it promoted Jo to say:




"If I had known this would have made you this happy, I would have announced it years ago."
The question was: Did Dumbledore, who believed in the prevailing power of love, ever fall in love himself?

JKR: My truthful answer to you... I always thought of Dumbledore as gay. [ovation.] ... Dumbledore fell in love with Grindelwald, and that that added to his horror when Grindelwald showed himself to be what he was. To an extent, do we say it excused Dumbledore a little more because falling in love can blind us to an extent? But, he met someone as brilliant as he was, and rather like Bellatrix he was very drawn to this brilliant person, and horribly, terribly let down by him. Yeah, that's how i always saw Dumbledore. In fact, recently I was in a script read through for the sixth film, and they had Dumbledore saying a line to Harry early in the script saying I knew a girl once, whose hair... [laughter]. I had to write a little note in the margin and slide it along to the scriptwriter, "Dumbledore's gay!" [laughter] "If I'd known it would make you so happy, I would have announced it years ago!"

Jo also said after revelation: "You needed something to keep you going for the next 10 years! ...Oh, my god, the fan fiction now, eh?"



Jo also revealed that Neville Longbottom married Hufflepuff Hannah Abbott and she was to become the landlady at the iconic Leaky Cauldron Pub. She thought that people would find the fact of Neville's living over a pub particularly cool.



Equally large revelations were made concerning Petunia Dursley when Jo answered the question of what Petunia could not bring herself to say when Harry and the Dursleys parted ways before his seventeenth birthday. She would have wished him luck, saying:





"I do know what you're up against and I hope it's okay."


Information on the original Order members was also revealed during tonight's event. Jo related the fact that Remus Lupin, prior to the third book, was unemployable because he was a werewolf and upon his graduation from Hogwarts along with James and Lily, was supported by James using their own money. In addition to this she shed more light on the early days of the Order, saying James, Sirius, Remus and Lily were full time Order members. "Full Time Fighters," as Jo put it.



Jo also went into further detail about the many portraits in the wizarding world and their occupants. An occupant can only move freely to other portraits in their dwelling or to another portrait in which they are depicted. She also revealed that Harry himself made sure that the portrait of Snape made it into the Headmasters Office, but doubts that he ever went to speak to it.



Life debts were another subject discussed during tonight's question and answer session. It was revealed that Draco Malfoy does not owe Harry a life debt. While speaking briefly on the Elder wand, Jo did not detail the the core of this extraordinary wand. Hagrid never married and James and Lily went into hiding shortly after she first became pregnant with Harry.



Finally, speaking about her personal feelings and experiences of the past seventeen years with the boy wizard, Jo said finishing the first book and the seventh book produced very similar feelings. She also admits that she was very difficult to live with for the weeks following her completing the last book in the "Harry Potter" series.



A full transcript of this evening's event will be available on TLC soon. TLC will update throughout the evening with the latest from this event.
Some highlights have been transcribed:

Q: Did Neville ever find love?

Of course. ... To make him extra cool he marries the woman who becomes, eventually, the new landlady at The Leaky Cauldron, which I think would make him very cool among the students, that he lives above the pub. He marries Hannah Abbott.

How did you decide that Molly Weasley would be the one to finish off Bellatrix?

I always knew Molly was going to finish her off. I think there was some speculation that Neville would do it, because Neville obviously has a particular reason to hate Bellatrix. ..So there were lots of optios for Blelatrix, but I never deviated. I wanted it to be Molly, and I wanted it to be Molly for two reasons.

The first reason was I always saw Molly as a very good witch but someone whose light is necessarily hidden under a bushel, because she isn't in the kitchen a lot and she has had to raise, among others, and george which is like, enough... I wanted Molly to have her moment and to show that because a woman had dedicated herself to her family does not mean that she doesn't have a lot of other talents.

Second reason: It was the meeting of two kinds of - if you call what Bellatrix feels for Voldemort love, I guess we'll call it love, she has a kind of obsession with him, it's a very sick obsession ... and I wanted to match that kind of obsession with maternal love... the power that you give someone by loving them. So Molly was really an amazing exemplar of maternal love. ... There was something very satisfying about putting those two women together.

How different would the last two books be if Arthur had been killed in the middle of book five?

I think they would have been very different and it's part of the reason why I chose my mind. ... By turning Ron into half of Harry, in other words by turning Ron into someone who had suffered the loss of a parent, I was going to remove the Weasleys as a refuge for Harry and I was going to necessarily remove a lot of Ron's humor. That's part of the reason why I didn't kill Arthru. I wanted to keep Ron in tact ... a lot of Ron's humor comes from his insensitivity and his immaturity, to be honest about Ron. And Ron finally, I think, you see, grows up in this book. He's the last of the three to reach what I consider adulthood, and he does it then [ when he destroys the horcrux] and faces those things. So that's part of the reason. The only other reason I didn't kill Arthur was that I wanted to come full circle. We started with an orphan, someone who lost their parents because of the war. ANd so I wanted to show it again. ... Even though you don't see Teddy, I wanted to express in the epilogue, that he gets an even better godfather than Harry had, because Sirius had ihs faults, I think we must admit. He was a risky guy to have a s a godfather. Because Teddy gets someone who really has been there, and Harry becomes a really great father figure for Teddy as well as his own children. I hasten to add that I didn't kill Lupin or Tonks lightly. I loved them as characters...so that hurt, killing them.

Q: In the Goblet of Fire Dumbledore said his brother was prosecuted for practicing inappropriate charms [JKR buries her head, to laughter] on a goat; what were the inappropriate charms he was practicing on that goat?

JKR: How old are you?

Eight.

JKR: I think that he was trying to make a goat that was easy to keep clean [laughter], curly horns. That's a joke that works on a couple of levels. I really like Aberforth and his goats. But you know Aberforth having this strange fondness for goats if you've read book seven, came in really useful to Harry, later on, because a goat, a stag, you know. If you're a stupid Death Eater, what's the difference. So, that is my answer to YOU.

[loud applause]

Did Dumbledore, who believed in the prevailing power of love, ever fall in love himself?

My truthful answer to you... I always thought of Dumbledore as gay. [ovation.] ... Dumbledore fell in love with Grindelwald, and that that added to his horror when Grindelwald showed himself to be what he was. To an extent, do we say it excused Dumbledore a little more because falling in love can blind us to an extent? But, he met someone as brilliant as he was, and rather like Bellatrix he was very drawn to this brilliant person, and horribly, terribly let down by him. Yeah, that's how i always saw Dumbledore. In fact, recently I was in a script read through for the sixth film, and they had Dumbledore saying a line to Harry early in the script saying I knew a girl once, whose hair... [laughter]. I had to write a little note in the margin and slide it along to the scriptwriter, "Dumbledore's gay!" [laughter] If I'd known it would make you so happy, I would have announced it years ago!

Q: Since Ron is able to speak Parseltongue in the last book, does that mean that parseltongue is a language that most witches and wizards can learn or must a person be born with some ability to speak Parseltongue.

JKR: I don't see it really as a language you can learn. So few people speak it that who would teach you? This is a weird ability passed down through the Slytherin blood line. However ROn was with Harry when he said one word in Parseltongue, which I do not know so I cannot duplicate for you, but he heard him say "Open," and he was able to reproduce the sound. So it was one word. Whether he could learn to speak to snakes properly is a separate issue. I don't think he could. But he knew enough, he was smart enough, to duplicate one necessary sound.

Q: [Speaker thanks Jo for the Dumbledore answer.]

JKR: You needed something to keep you going for the next 10 years! Oh, my god, the fan fiction now, eh? [Applause.]

Q: What did Dumbledore write in the letter to make the Dursleys take Harry?

JKR: Very, very good question. As you know, as we find out in book seven, Petunia once really wanted to be part of that world. And you discover that Dumbledore has written to her prior to the Howler...Dumbledore wrote to her very kindly and explained why he couldn't let her come to Hogwarts to become a witch. So, Petunia, much as she denis it afterwards, much as she turns against that world when she met Uncle Vernon, who is the biggest anti-wizard you could ever met in your life, a tiny part of her, and that's the part that almost wished Harry luck when she said goodbye to him in this book, she just teetered on the verge of saying, I do know what you're up against and I hope it's OK. But she couldn't bring herself to say it. Years of pretending she doesn't care have hardened her. But Dumbledore appealed in the letter you're asking about, so that part of Petunia that did remember wanting desperately to be part of the world and he appealed to her sense of fair play to a sister that she had hated because Lily had what she couldn't have. So that's how she persuaded Petunia to keep Harry. Good question.

Q: When Harry was stabbed by a basilisk in the Chamber of Secrets, since he was a Horcrux shouldn't it have been destroyed then?

JKR: I have been asked that a lot. Harry was exceptionally fortunate in that he had Fawkes. So before he could be destroyed without repair, which is what is necessary to destroy a horcrux, he was mended. However, I made sure that Fawkes wasn't around the second time a Horcrux got stabbed by a basilisk fang, so the poison did its work and it was irreparable within a short period of time.... I established early in the book, Hermione says that you destroy a Horcrux by using something so powerful that there's no remedy. But she does say there is a remedy for basilisk poison but of course it has to be administered immediately and when they stab the cup later - boy I'm really blowing this for anyone who hasn't finished the book - there's Fawkes, is my answer. And thank you for giving me a chance to say that because people have argued that quite a lot.

Q: Why couldn't Harry speak to a portrait of Dumbledore throughout the last book>

Well there are two reasons, three reasons actually... Teh last bit, why did he have to decode? As Dumbledore says to Harry...to tell Harry about the Hallows was to tempt him. And Harry, throughout all seven books has been incredibly impetuous and reckless. That's one of Harry's biggest flaws. He does tend to act without thinking, and Dumbledore knows this about Harry. He wants him to work it out slowly enough to gain wisdom along the way. That's why he passed the information through Hermione, who is the most cautious person in the books, as you know. And Dumbledore says explicitly, so your good heat isn't overcome by your hot heads. Or I may have paraphrased myself slight there so forgive me. "She doesn't even know her own book!" [laughter] Yes so that's one reason. Harry needs to decode. He said, he does say in this book, he's frightened by his decision not to race for the wand, because he had never chosen not to act. So that's Harry's real big coming of age moment, that he's decided to hold back for the first time very in his life. So the other two reasons that i have for him not t speak to Dumbledore's portrait, first of all, I crated a lot of rules for this world and then later had to navigate my away around them. But this rule was always good, and the rule was that portraits could only move between portraits in the same building. so if I'm in a picture and you're in a picture and we're both in Carnegie Hall, then we can move into each other's pictures. Otherwise we can only move only to other places where we have a portrait. You can't just move willy nilly through all the - the Louvre, the Met - you can't do a world tour, as a picture person. You are limited by geography. So there was that reason. And then lastly of course, the third reason, is it really would be too easy and I wouldn't have had a plot.

Q: Many of us older readers have noticed over the years similarities between the Death Eaters tactics and the Nazis from the 30s and 40s. Did you use that historical era as a model for Voldemort's reign and what were the lessons that you hope to impart to the next generation?

It was conscious. I think that if you're, I think most of us if you were asked to name a very evil regime we would think Nazi Germany. There were parallels in the ideology. I wanted Harry to leave our world and find exactly the same problems in the wizarding world. So you have the intent to impose a hierarchy, you have bigotry, and this notion of purity, which is this great fallacy, but it crops up all over the world. People like to think themselves superior and that if they can pride themselves in nothing else they can pride themselves on perceived purity. So yeah that follows a parallel. It wasn't really exclusively that. I think you can see in the Ministry even before it's taken over, there are parallels to regimes we all know and love. [Laughter and applause.] So you ask what lessons, I suppose. The Potter books in general are a prolonged argument for tolerance, a prolonged plea for an end to bigotry, and I think ti's one of the reasons that some people don't like the books, but I think that's it's a very healthy message to pass on to younger people that you should question authority and you should not assume that the establishment or the press tells you all of the truth.

[Loud applause.]

Q: What did it feel like completing your first Harry Potter book versus completing the last.

JKR: What a great question. It felt strangely similar actually. Both feelings were more alike than with any of the other books. When I finished the first book, there was this incredible sense of achievement that i'd actually written a novel, i"d actually finished my book. And it was after seven years of writing and making notes and rewriting. And then when I finished the seventh book, that was 17 years. WIth the seventh book there was a huge feeling of loss as well. I couldn't believe I was done. And it took me weeks, as my poor, long-suffering husband will attest. He's here. [applause] Yes, you should clap him, he's very patient! [ovation] He's not the type to stand up and take about but trust me. Toward the end of a book i'm not that easy to live with. Yes Neil would bear witness to the fact that for weeks, really... it felt like a bereavement. I knew it was coming. I was prepared, I knew it would hurt, and it was huge. So, that's why I'm glad to be here and talk about it. Thank you.

Voice: Excuse me, Ms. Rowling?

JKR: Hello.

Voice: I have a question.

JKR: God? [laughter] And they say I don't believe in you! [Ovation.]

Voice: May I approach teh stage?

JKR: Sorry, I missed that, what was that? You may approach the stage, I always wondered what oyu looked like.

Announcer: Actually I don't have a question but I do have a little surprise. [Explains that they've picked some more questions from competition winners, randomly chosen to surprise sweepstakes winners.]

Q: Does Malfoy owe Harry a debt?

JKR: That's a great question and a lot of people wanted to know that. When Dumbledore said to Harry, Voldemort won't want a close associate who is in your debt, I wasn't implying by that there was any kind of magical bond there. It was more that Dumbldore's extensive wisdom and knowledge of human nature, he knew as Harry later thinks in book seven, he knew that Pettigrew would react a certain way to having saved his life. ... He's weak, fundamentally weak. Pettigrew is a very weak character. He's not someone I like at all. He's a weak person and he likes to gravitate to people who are stronger. Dumbledore is right. Pettigrew had an impulsive mercy... would Malfoy e in Harry's debt? I think the very worst burden Harry could have put Malfoy under was this one, that Malfoy has to feel any kind of gratitude. So I tried to show that slightly in the epilogue when they look slightly at each other and there's a, "Hi. It's so embarrassing, you saved my life. No one will ever let me forget it." I think, does he owe him a debt, probably not. I think Malfoy would go back to being an improved version of what he was but we shouldn't expect him to be a really great guy any time soon.

Q: Harry often wondered about his parents lives before he died. What did Lily, James, Remus, Lupin and Sirius do after Hogwarts?

JKR: To take Remus first, Remus was unemployable. Poor Lupin, prior to Dumbledore taking him in, lead a really impoverished life because no one wanted to employ a werewolf. The other three were full-time members of the Order of the Phoenix. If you remember when Lily, James and co. were at school, the first war was raging. It never reached the heights that the second war reached, because the Ministry was never infiltrated to that extend but it was a very bad time, the same disappearances, the same deaths. So that's what they did, they left school. James has gold, enough to support Sirius and Lily. So I suppose they lived foff a private income. But they were full-time fighters, that's what they did, until Lily fell pregnant with Harry. So then they went into hiding.

Q: Did Hagrid ever get married and have children?

[Aww from crowd] JKR: Oh, did Hagrid ever get married and have children? No. [awwws again] I may change that immediately due to the look on your face. Yes! He had 22! - No, no, Hagrid never did marry and have children. I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. Oh I feel terrible now. I'll write another book! [Ovation] Realistically, Hagrid's pool of potential girlfriends is extremely limited. Because with the giants killing each other off, the number of giantesses around is infinitesimal and he met one of the only, and I'm afraid, she thought he was kind of cute, but she was a little more, how should I put it, sophisticated than Hagrid. So no, bless him. [Awws] I kept him alive, come on! [Applause.]

Q: Is Severus Snape's portrait in the headmaster's office?

JKR: Some have been asking why hasn't the portrait appeared immediately. It doesn't. The reason is that the perception in the castle itself and everyone who was in the castle, because Snape kept his secret so well was that he abandoned his post. So all the portraits you see in the headmaster's study are all headmasters and mistresses who died, it's like British royals. You only get good press if you die in office. Abdication is not acceptable, particularly if you marry and American. I'm kidding! [laughter] I digress. I know, because I thought this one through, because it was very important to me, I know Harry would have insisted that Snape's portrait was on that wall, right beside Dumbledore's. [Applause.] As for whether Harry would go back to talk to him, I think, I'm not sure he would have done. Snape, I was really [?] the week after I finished the book. And I went to a chat room - not a chat room, what am I talking about? [laughter] I never go in chat rooms. I went onto a fan site because I was looking for questions to put up on my Web site, which is sometimes difficult. And I was so heartened to see that people on the message boards that people were still arguing about Snape. The book was out, and they were still arguing whether Snape was a good guy But that was really wonderful to me, because there's a question there, was Snape a good guy or not? In many ways he really wasn't. SoI haven't been deliberately misleading everyone all this time, when I say that he's a good guy. Because even though he did love and he loved very deeply and he was very brave, both qualities that I admire above anything else. He was bitter and he was vindictive... but right at the very very end, he did, as your question acknowledges, acheive a kind of peace together and I tried to show that in the epilogue.