Since the other Avril thread will probably be reserved to trashing on Avril. . . I thought I'd post the lyrics to "Nobody's Home" in this thread, and also the streaming MP3 of her performance of the song with AOL.

Here are the lyrics:

Nobody's Home

I couldn't tell you why she felt that way,
She felt it everyday.
And I couldn't help her,
I just watched her make the same mistakes again.

What's wrong, what's wrong now?
Too many, too many problems.
Don't know where she belongs, where she belongs.
She wants to go home, but nobody's home.
That's where she lies, broken inside.
With no place to go, no place to go to dry her eyes.
Broken inside.

Open your eyes and look outside, find the reasons why.
You've been rejected, and now you can't find what you left behind.
Be strong, be strong now.
Too many, too many problems.
Don't know where she belongs, where she belongs.
She wants to go home, but nobody's home.
That's where she lies, broken inside.
With no place to go, no place to go to dry her eyes.
Broken inside.

Her feelings she hides.
Her dreams she can't find.
She's losing her mind
She's fallen behind.
She can't find her place.
She's losing her faith
She's fallen from grace.
She's all over the place.

She wants to go home, but nobody's home.
That's where she lies, broken inside.
With no place to go, no place to go to dry her eyes.
Broken inside.

She's lost inside, lost inside...oh oh yeah.
She's lost inside, lost inside...oh oh yeah.

And here is the link to the site that will give you the AOL session MP3's. . .
http://www.alexparksonline.com/avril/

If that link is in anyway illegal on this site, you may delete it, but I don't think those are illegal downloads.

Now, share your opinions :).

Since the other Avril thread will probably be reserved to trashing on Avril. . . I thought I'd post the lyrics to "Nobody's Home" in this thread
Now, share your opinions



I'll share mine first. You need to calm down. We're not trashing her, we're just saying what happened with the guitar boy and stuff was quite depressing for the sake of the little kids. You posted this song in the other thread..but hey, whatever. It's a goos song, good lyrics and she sounds really good. There's my opinions.

I'll share mine first. You need to calm down. We're not trashing her, we're just saying what happened with the guitar boy and stuff was quite depressing for the sake of the little kids. You posted this song in the other thread..but hey, whatever. It's a goos song, good lyrics and she sounds really good. There's my opinions.

Well thank you for your opinion. I just posted the lyrics in the other thread, and I think making this thread will get people to actually see the song since my post is already in a past page in the other thread. I'm sure that April Fools incident meant no harm, but it seems like Avril is trashed on for everythign she does. At the show I went to in DC she stayed for almost an hour to sign for people :-/.

Well thank you for your opinion. I just posted the lyrics in the other thread, and I think making this thread will get people to actually see the song since my post is already in a past page in the other thread. I'm sure that April Fools incident meant no harm, but it seems like Avril is trashed on for everythign she does. At the show I went to in DC she stayed for almost an hour to sign for people :-/.


How long do you suppose it will be until we get busted for having two threads where we discuss this topic? I'm going to stop now, because really I don't need dev kicking my ass out of here. Thanks.

The lyrics and melody are great but I have to say that I don't really care for her voice.

How long do you suppose it will be until we get busted for having two threads where we discuss this topic? I'm going to stop now, because really I don't need dev kicking my ass out of here. Thanks.


Good point. End of discussion.

I love it... every bit of it :)

Thanks for posting both the lyrics and the mp3 <33

The lyrics are cool but I hate that there are some many lines repeated.gotta listen to the audio now.
edit:the song sounds cool (yeah)typical Avril last track.

I don't really care for it. I think her voice reminds me of some other singer, but I can't think of who that would be...

I don't really care for it. I think her voice reminds me of some other singer, but I can't think of who that would be...

I think the artist she more than likely sounds like at this point is Alanis.

Good song, but I think her voice sounds horrible in this one.

Thanks for posting the lyrics. :)
I think the lyrics are good. I don't really like her voice though, but I don't know about in this song. My computer doesn't let you listen to music. It's a very crappy computer.
Last night on the Kids Choice Awards (my sister wanted me to hear her song) And I didn't think her voice sounded very good on whatever song she sang, either.
Oh well, It looks like I'll have to wait for it to come out to hear that song.

The lyrics and melody are great but I have to say that I don't really care for her voice.

yeah!! what's up with that?!?! she sounds like shit on that song!!

i liked that song i liked her voice when she goes
Her feelings she hides.
Her dreams she can't find.
She's losing her mind
She's fallen behind.
She can't find her place.
She's losing her faith
She's fallen from grace.
She's all over the place.

i like how she does that thing with her voice over all its a great song but ive always been a fan of her music

Ooooh...those lyrics are goooooooood :)

Yay Ben!

Ooooh...those lyrics are goooooooood :)

Yay Ben!
lol ya thats what i was thinking to lol

Well I did like the lyrics but I'm not gonna turn off my Evanescence C.D. to hear her sing. ;) :D

I think the artist she more than likely sounds like at this point is Alanis.avril will never be as good as alanis...alanis totally kicks my bucket :D

"Nobody's Home" is only the second or third song I like from Avril Lavigne.

Hmmm...Not a fan...Hopefully the album version is better.

I'll share mine first. You need to calm down. We're not trashing her, we're just saying what happened with the guitar boy and stuff was quite depressing for the sake of the little kids. You posted this song in the other thread..but hey, whatever. It's a goos song, good lyrics and she sounds really good. There's my opinions.
I don't like Avril shes rude an mean to her fans great lyrics though but hey there bens so they gotta be great cause hes still a great lyricist no matter who hes writing lyrics for wither its Avril or Evanescence :p

Hey bradosarnolds, you need to use proper spelling and grammar.

Hey bradosarnolds, you need to use proper spelling and grammar.
I don't care if I don't use proper spelling and grammer its just a forum or are you just saying that cause I said Avril was rude and mean :p

I don't care if I don't use proper spelling and grammer its just a forum or are you just saying that cause I said Avril was rude and mean :p

Well people here care if you do. Why? Because we have international members on this board who are learning or improving english. So you need to use proper spelling, grammar, and puncuation.

And honestly say whatever you like about Avril, you're entitled to your own opinion.

Well people here care if you do. Why? Because we have international members on this board who are learning or improving english. So you need to use proper spelling, grammar, and puncuation.

And honestly say whatever you like about Avril, you're entitled to your own opinion.
Do you go around telling that to everyone who does'nt use proper spelling, grammar, and puncuation. I'm sure I'm not the only one who does'nt use it here. I'll try to use better spelling, grammar, and puncuation.:p

the song works good for avril
that's all i can say about it

I already posted my view, but ah what the hell I'll say it again.

I like the song, but the song itself doesn't suit Avril's voice. It sounds like it was written for somebody else's voice. Hell, I don't even think it fits Amy's voice to tell you the truth.

I like the lyrics, but it's not Ben's best work. That belongs to (and possibly will forever belong to) My Immortal.

I don't care if I don't use proper spelling and grammer its just a forum or are you just saying that cause I said Avril was rude and mean :p


How about because it's a board rule? 'Cause it is. *ahem* -Sydmod

The lyrics are good, but it doesn't really fit Avril's voice.

Good song, but I think her voice sounds horrible in this one.


She sounded really good when I heard her sing it live.

In my opinion, I have heard a lot of Avril's live stuff, and she doesn't seem to put much emotion into her voice. It sounds very intense on her album, but that's been beefed up. If you listen to her acoustic set of Things I'll Never Say, she sounds almost tiresome of singing the lyrics. I don't know Avril personally, but I do have my opinion about the way she treats her fans and such... I just think that she thinks she has to be the hardcore punk chick with a bad attitude to get people to respect her as a songwriter. I personally think that's bullshit. This song in particular, judging by the lyrics, it's a sad song, but yet she sings it with such conviction, like she has something to prove. I think if she sang more from her heart than her head, it would sound a lot better.

I think the artist she more than likely sounds like at this point is Alanis.


She sounds like a cross between Alanis and the lead singer of the cranberries....

has anyone seen the new video from avril? i just caught the end of it and i could have sworn she was wearing a corset or something similar...but i might just be imagining things...

I can't get the mp3 of work...DAMN IT!!!!

EDIT: thank you my LOVE, Lilly....for sending teh song to me!
<333
:eek:
Eeeek!...her voice! I really hope they fix that shit! lmao
..other than that...good song...
rock on Ben!

I can't get the mp3 of work...DAMN IT!!!!

EDIT: thank you my LOVE, Lilly....for sending teh song to me!
<333
:eek:
Eeeek!...her voice! I really hope they fix that shit! lmao
..other than that...good song...
rock on Ben!

Np babe, ya know I got you :)

I love ya

I think the artist she more than likely sounds like at this point is Alanis.
I was going to say that! But yeah, her voice ruins it for me, oh well...

My ears hurt now....

has anyone seen the new video from avril? i just caught the end of it and i could have sworn she was wearing a corset or something similar...but i might just be imagining things...

She was actually in her underwear in the beginning of it. . . but yeah it's a really cool video, you can see a picture of her from it in my avatar.

I didn't even know they had a video out for it. I'm gonna have to go check it out.

The songs is quite good. I like it. I mean... yeeeees....
But Avril wants to sound like Alanis bad-day voice...

(and I like Alanis eh?? ;) )

lol! i saw that video.. yeah.. definately was a corset towards the end of the video.. a definate WTF??? moment

but i am amzed at myself.... i actually like the song....
the only thing im not liking... her accent is really confusing.. it, well, doesnt sound proper, as in, it's not consistent...


and the whole using proper grammar and punctuation... i think the main thing is, typing wiht "l33t" or dude/IM speak is just really confusing and hard to read... which in turn makes people not read what you have to say, undermiming your opinion... not to mention for most people, it makes htem look kinda dumb

Since the other Avril thread will probably be reserved to trashing on Avril. . . I thought I'd post the lyrics to "Nobody's Home" in this thread, and also the streaming MP3 of her performance of the song with AOL.

Here are the lyrics:

Nobody's Home

I couldn't tell you why she felt that way,
She felt it everyday.
And I couldn't help her,
I just watched her make the same mistakes again.

What's wrong, what's wrong now?
Too many, too many problems.
Don't know where she belongs, where she belongs.
She wants to go home, but nobody's home.
That's where she lies, broken inside.
With no place to go, no place to go to dry her eyes.
Broken inside.

Open your eyes and look outside, find the reasons why.
You've been rejected, and now you can't find what you left behind.
Be strong, be strong now.
Too many, too many problems.
Don't know where she belongs, where she belongs.
She wants to go home, but nobody's home.
That's where she lies, broken inside.
With no place to go, no place to go to dry her eyes.
Broken inside.

Her feelings she hides.
Her dreams she can't find.
She's losing her mind
She's fallen behind.
She can't find her place.
She's losing her faith
She's fallen from grace.
She's all over the place.

She wants to go home, but nobody's home.
That's where she lies, broken inside.
With no place to go, no place to go to dry her eyes.
Broken inside.

She's lost inside, lost inside...oh oh yeah.
She's lost inside, lost inside...oh oh yeah.

And here is the link to the site that will give you the AOL session MP3's. . .
http://www.alexparksonline.com/avril/

If that link is in anyway illegal on this site, you may delete it, but I don't think those are illegal downloads.

Now, share your opinions :).I have to say that I was a bit disappointed...on the other hand, it was live and acoustic; is the album version different?

I think the song is pretty good...but I think that Avril isn't the right one to sing it. It sounds like it was written for Amy to sing; I could hear Avril strain a bit to reach notes that Amy could have hit with ease. It also seems more of an Ev song than an Avril song to me...it belongs in the same category as like Breathe No More, My Immortal and Broken (yes I know it's not an Ev song but it fits into that type of category IMO).

Maybe this is just the Evanescence fan and disliker of Avril in me talking...but I wasn't overly impressed by the song. I do think that it's a LOT better than Avril's other songs; she utilizes her voice better. I wouldn't mind hearing it on the radio.

Well, I think that Ben did a good job. I'm glad he produced a good song for her to sing.

I like the lyrics, but it's not Ben's best work. That belongs to (and possibly will forever belong to) My Immortal.
Amen! I agree 101%. Why is it that you always post things nicely, concisely, and perfectly? :p ;)

i heart this song :)
i first heard it when i went to go check her out during her top secret mall location tour (i forget the actual name of it) and i fell inlove with it almost immediately. i adore the lyrics and her falsettos during the bridge gave me chills. i recorded it at the show as a voicemail message on my cell so i was able to listen to it over and over(yeah, i'm a dork). anyway, i can't wait to hear the studio/album version...i must admit though, the sessions @ aol performance wasn't exactly the greatest, but i adore the song.

I have to say that I was a bit disappointed...on the other hand, it was live and acoustic; is the album version different?

I think the song is pretty good...but I think that Avril isn't the right one to sing it. It sounds like it was written for Amy to sing; I could hear Avril strain a bit to reach notes that Amy could have hit with ease. It also seems more of an Ev song than an Avril song to me...it belongs in the same category as like Breathe No More, My Immortal and Broken (yes I know it's not an Ev song but it fits into that type of category IMO).

Maybe this is just the Evanescence fan and disliker of Avril in me talking...but I wasn't overly impressed by the song. I do think that it's a LOT better than Avril's other songs; she utilizes her voice better. I wouldn't mind hearing it on the radio.

Well, I think that Ben did a good job. I'm glad he produced a good song for her to sing.


Amen! I agree 101%. Why is it that you always post things nicely, concisely, and perfectly? :p ;)

Meh I don't know if it would suit Amy. . . it seems more like an Avril song with a touch of Evanescence. And I don't think Amy would necessarily hit those notes easier, it's just Avril was singing softly and with her head voice. During the bridge, Avril uses falsetto and head voice perfectly to establish certain tone and emotion.

First of all...in this mp3 version...Avril's voice truly sucks. Simon would have trashed her on American Idol.

And second, after reading the lyrics Ben wrote, it sounded to me like maybe he was writing about Amy? Good writers tend to write from the heart, from deep inside. I can't help but feel he's a little hurt and bitter over all of this, but it's hard to make an accurate judgement with the amount (or lack of) information we have been given on why he left.

As I went to Ben's website and poked around a bit, I got the same feeling there also...and the way he showed up at the Grammy's, and now this song. For me, I'm starting to see a pattern. Read the lyrics again...

nope cant relate ANY of them lyrics to amy...

thanks for posting, i love that song :)

nope cant relate ANY of them lyrics to amy...

No, I mean Ben's inner feelings about Amy you silly...

nope cant relate ANY of them lyrics to amy...

Actually, you never know, AmyLuvr COULD be right.

I remember that anytime Ben referred to Amy, he always talked about her childhood problems, but never said exactly what they were. It's not out of the question that he's using some of her experiences to "inspire" his writing.

AHHHH!!

If ONE more person says something Ben does "sounds like an Ev song" I'm gonna blow up the damn board. I swear!!!!!!!

after reading the lyrics Ben wrote, it sounded to me like maybe he was writing about Amy? Good writers tend to write from the heart, from deep inside. I can't help but feel he's a little hurt and bitter over all of this, but it's hard to make an accurate judgement with the amount (or lack of) information we have been given on why he left.

As I went to Ben's website and poked around a bit, I got the same feeling there also...and the way he showed up at the Grammy's, and now this song. For me, I'm starting to see a pattern. Read the lyrics again...
correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe Ben wrote the song with Avril, not for her...and i wouldn't be so quick to think or assume that anything he might write like that would automatically be about Amy...

about the amount of info we got as to why he left...we may not have *all* of the details because that's between the band members, but i think we got everything we need to know. we are in no place to even attempt to "make and accurate judgment" or any judgment at all...the band was unhappy and now they're not. the end.

AHHHH!!

If ONE more person says something Ben does "sounds like an Ev song" I'm gonna blow up the damn board. I swear!!!!!!!

What, were not allowed to state the obvious? :p .

I just think it's stupid...Of couse it's going to "sound like an Ev song" Evsong = Bensong

I don't think it does. Lyrically yes. Musically not really.

well i now you dont want people "thrashing" avril but i dont like her. i dont feel shes real. And i think that it sucks of Ben to leave am for avril rven just for one song or for a gazzillion although i think ben is cool and i <3 his song on the punisher the album i dont think he shoulda done what he did to amy and the band.

~peace & much <3~
sarah

in my opinion.... avrils voice completely sucks and she should never had gotten a record deal. her music is simply awful. she has a bare minimum of talent for someone in the idustry and its a shame how popluar shes gotten. the fact that she has other people write tracks for her is ridiculous to me and ill never understand why a MUSICIAN wouldnt write their own stuff. i dont really care for the lyrics but theyre not that bad.....personally i think that they were wasted on an awful piece.... musically and vocally.

but then again ive been anti-avril from the start so i have an extremely tainted opinion in this matter

You. are. dum.

He DIDN'T "leave them for Avril"....o.m.f.

First of all, I'm an Avril fanboy. Plus this was written by Ben. I'd have thought this would be a good song. Avril's voice sucks in this song. That's coming from one of her fans.

http://launch.yahoo.com/read/news.asp?contentID=217507
Sheesh.

Man Accused of Stalking Lavigne Arrested
(AP, 04/08/2004 9:36 PM)

Police arrested a man for allegedly stalking teen pop star Avril Lavigne .

James Speedy, 30, was booked into jail for investigation of stalking after police searched his Seattle suburban home Wednesday — the same day the 19-year-old Canadian singer and Grammy nominee played a free concert at a mall south of Seattle.

He later posted $5,000 bail and was released.

Officers have been investigating the case since last summer, when they were contacted by Ontario, Canada, police about harassing letters and e-mails sent to Lavigne, Detective Jerry Reiner said.

"These did place the family of Avril Lavigne, and Avril Lavigne herself, in fear," Reiner said. He refused to discuss the content of the messages.

Speedy does not have a listed telephone number; it was unclear whether he had obtained a lawyer.

http://launch.yahoo.com/read/news.asp?contentID=217507
Sheesh.

I heard about that on the radio, I was at that concert yesterday.

I'm not a huge Avril fan (I like her enough, though), and she didn't sound so bad when she sung Nobody's Home.

can't listen to avril, sorry.

Well. I can see Ben's colaboration on the lyrics, they are preety good. But I really don't like the song, and definitively not Avril's voice. It has a lack of feeling, I can't see the effort in the song, it's like she was using improvization, and it did not came out well... I like some part of the lyrics, but I don't see them outstanding (sobresaliente X|)...

LMAO! Avril had a stalker? That's fucking hilarious!

Something really scary happened the other night! I was reading a magazine and not paying attention to the TV. I looked up to see what was on and Avril was in her underwear! Now I'm sick! I think I got sick from the sight of Avril not dressed. :(

Oh, and I think the lyrics to her new songs are crap. I think both her and Ben should just stop writing now! I really hope Evanescence's next album is going to be better without Ben.

Oh, and I think the lyrics to her new songs are crap. I think both her and Ben should just stop writing now! I really hope Evanescence's next album is going to be better without Ben.

He only helped her with this one song. So to say the lyrics to her new songs are crap and credit him with it is totally unjustified.

He only helped her with this one song. So to say the lyrics to her new songs are crap and credit him with it is totally unjustified.
I read on mtv.com that he actually co-wrote three songs: Nobody's Home, Forgotten, and one other...and I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of what you said.

He only helped her with this one song. So to say the lyrics to her new songs are crap and credit him with it is totally unjustified.

You shouldn't asume that I'm only talking about that one Avril song when refering to Ben's writing when we all know that's not the only thing he's written. When I say I think both of them should just stop writing I'm refering to everything they've written. :)

You shouldn't asume that I'm only talking about that one Avril song when refering to Ben's writing when we all know that's not the only thing he's written. :)


Would you care to elaborate a little more cause I'm failing to see your point about what she said.

Would you care to elaborate a little more cause I'm failing to see your point about what she said.

Actually, I wouldn't. I don't want to get my head bitten off for having my own opinions.

You shouldn't asume that I'm only talking about that one Avril song when refering to Ben's writing when we all know that's not the only thing he's written. When I say I think both of them should just stop writing I'm refering to everything they've written. :)


Oh ok then... so you say that you don't like almost half or... wait.. mostly all of what has been graced through your ears by Evanescence before Ben left? Then pray tell why the hell are you here?

Actually, I wouldn't. I don't want to get my head bitten off for having my own opinions.


Then dont open a can of worms then cause it makes ya look like you dont know what your talking about. ;) And I mean that in the nicest way possible I really do :D

Then dont open a can of worms then cause it makes ya look like you dont know what your talking about. ;) And I mean that in the nicest way possible I really do :D

I swear I didn’t try to. The reason I didn’t elaborate is because I didn’t want to get into it with everyone. I guess I figured everyone would assume I was referring to the Avril song, but that didn’t quite work. I’m not used to being on a message board with intelligent people.

I swear I didn’t try to. The reason I didn’t elaborate is because I didn’t want to get into it with everyone. I guess I figured everyone would assume I was referring to the Avril song, but that didn’t quite work. I’m not used to being on a message board with intelligent people.

My previous statement.... still stands.

First of all, I'm an Avril fanboy. Plus this was written by Ben. I'd have thought this would be a good song. Avril's voice sucks in this song. That's coming from one of her fans.

Meh, I'm a fan and a singer myself and though I don't agree her voice sound terrible in it, it's not the greatest she's ever performed. If you heard her Juno's performance you'd change your opinion . She has good and bad performances.

BTW, the full band version of one of her new songs called "He Wasn't" is on the site I gave in the first post ( http://www.alexparksonline.com/avril/ )

If you liked Sk8er Boi you'd like this song, but if you despise Sk8er Boi . . . I'd stay away from it.

i actually think avril can have a pretty good voice... when she tries.

I really don't care for Avril's voice at all, and I don't think the lyrics are that great, either. I know Ben is capable of contributing something so much better, but I guess it could have something to do with the desired style and the such. Doesn't float my boat.

You shouldn't asume that I'm only talking about that one Avril song when refering to Ben's writing when we all know that's not the only thing he's written. When I say I think both of them should just stop writing I'm refering to everything they've written. :)
Like Posi said...That doesn't make any sense...

And if you're not going to eplain your opinion then you should just keep it to yourself.

I read on mtv.com that he actually co-wrote three songs
And someone here said she only used ONE. So,that means this person hasn't heard the others and, therefor, cannot judge them.

I don’t know why this is so hard for you to understand. I didn’t say anything that doesn’t make sense.

“Oh, and I think the lyrics to her new songs are crap. I think both her and Ben should just stop writing now! I really hope Evanescence's next album is going to be better without Ben.”That means:

1. I think the lyrics to Avril’s new songs are crap. I don’t like them. I’ve never liked her lyrics. There was a lot of hype over her new album. Everyone said it would be better than the last, but I don’t think it is. This bothers me a lot because one of my favorite artists, Raine Maida from Our Lady Peace, helped with her new album. (I’ve heard it’s some sort of Canadian pride thing.)

2. If I say: “I think both her and Ben should just stop writing now!” then obviously that means I don’t like the way either of them write. Does that mean I’m only talking about Avril’s lyrics? No. Ben has written a lot of other things, not just Avril’s song(s), and that’s why I said: “You shouldn't asume that I'm only talking about that one Avril song when refering to Ben's writing when we all know that's not the only thing he's written. When I say I think both of them should just stop writing I'm refering to everything they've written.”

3. Since it’s obvious that I don’t like the way Ben writes, that is why I said that I hope Evanescence’s next album will be better without him. Artistically I think that he was a bad influence on the band, and I hope that things will be better now that he’s gone.

These are my opinions. It doesn’t mean that I don’t like Evanescence, because I do, obviously. I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t. Do I have to love everything about them to enjoy their music? No. So I don’t see what the problem is.

maybe you should try making your posts sound a little more friendly rather then bitter. ;) simple solution for ya...

oh yeah and i dont think avril was wearing a corset. looked more like a black vest top that had been made to look like a corset :p

maybe you should try making your posts sound a little more friendly rather then bitter. ;) simple solution for ya...

oh yeah and i dont think avril was wearing a corset. looked more like a black vest top that had been made to look like a corset :p

Why would I make my post sound 'friendly' when I'm talking about something I dislike?

And I agree, I think she was wearing a corset style top, not an actual corset. I can't imagine preforming in a real corset anyway since you can't even wash them. They'd get really stinky. lol

i really like avril's songs..i liked almost all of them from her first album and nobody's home is another good single with really good lyrics...i dont think ben could write something thats not "good"

wow... well, for one thing diviphon, your opinion about ben's writing was completely wrong even before you wrote it... many, many, of the songs on Fallen were written by Ben.. and, look how popular the album is. Not to mention most of us wouldnt be here if it weren't for Fallen.
Also, there is no reason to be such a jackass just because you are talking about something you dislike. Doing so just undermimes your opinion, and people are just going to be less open to your ideas.

And to the statement about not being able to perform in a corset, two things: 1)a video isnt really a performance, is it? :D 2)Amy sure seems to be able to perform in them :)
Also, I do know what a corset looks like, and that definately looks like one. Further proof to that is look at how rigid Avril is in that video, definately the work of a corset.

wow... well, for one thing diviphon, your opinion about ben's writing was completely wrong even before you wrote it... many, many, of the songs on Fallen were written by Ben.. and, look how popular the album is. Not to mention most of us wouldnt be here if it weren't for Fallen.
Also, there is no reason to be such a jackass just because you are talking about something you dislike. Doing so just undermimes your opinion, and people are just going to be less open to your ideas.

And to the statement about not being able to perform in a corset, two things: 1)a video isnt really a performance, is it? :D 2)Amy sure seems to be able to perform in them :)
Also, I do know what a corset looks like, and that definately looks like one. Further proof to that is look at how rigid Avril is in that video, definately the work of a corset.

Wow. Well, for one thing, who are you to tell me that my opinions are wrong? By saying that you’ve completely thrown any argument you have out the window. I realize how popular the album is, but does that mean that everyone is going to like everything about it? What an ignorant comment.
Also, I wasn’t being a ‘jackass’. I stated my opinion, and if you don’t like my opinion, ignore it, or tell me what you think in a proper manner rather than telling me that my opinions are ‘wrong’.

About the corsets:
1. I’ve always thought of music videos as a form of acting, and acting is a performance. Either way I’m sure you could work up a sweat while making a music video.
2. I’ve never seen Amy perform, so I wouldn’t know what she wears, but I do know that real corsets are made with steal boning, so if she got wet or sweaty, which I’m sure she would, it could rust. Plus, like I said, you can’t wash them because of the fact that they rust. I’m guessing Amy wears corset tops, just like Avril’s. I’ve seen her in them in pictures.

I’m really getting tired of having to defend my opinions to you people. I really can’t stand people who think their way is the right way and there is no other way to think.

you're right.. im sorry. 'jackass' was too harsh a word...
but i have a question for you... when you first heard Fallen, what were your more favorite tracks? give me an honest answer and we can discuss from there...
sure.. videos are a form of acting.. and Avril wasnt acting very much..

and i go to Ren fairs, where corsets are what juast about all the women wear.. they dont seem to concerned about rain... jsut a little food for thought

I’m really getting tired of having to defend my opinions to you people. I really can’t stand people who think their way is the right way and there is no other way to think.

I'll say that nobody has a right or wrong opinion, but they are allowed to disagree with your opinion (which makes the person who disagrees think that you have the wrong opinion). I hope that in some way made sense.

Back on topic, musically speaking this song is a little different from anything that Moody has done so far. I'm not saying it's out of left field, but I think that Moody will write more diverse music and lyrics in the future.

I don’t know why this is so hard for you to understand. I didn’t say anything that doesn’t make sense.
Ok, maybe "doesn't make sense" was a bit too "extreme" or whatever. I guess I should have said you didn't get your point across very well.

2. If I say: “I think both her and Ben should just stop writing now!” then obviously that means I don’t like the way either of them write. Does that mean I’m only talking about Avril’s lyrics? No. Ben has written a lot of other things, not just Avril’s song(s), and that’s why I said: “You shouldn't asume that I'm only talking about that one Avril song when refering to Ben's writing when we all know that's not the only thing he's written. When I say I think both of them should just stop writing I'm refering to everything they've written.”
People wouldn't assume you were just talking about that song if you hadn't only mentioned that one song and then said they should just quit writing.

3. Since it’s obvious that I don’t like the way Ben writes, that is why I said that I hope Evanescence’s next album will be better without him. Artistically I think that he was a bad influence on the band, and I hope that things will be better now that he’s gone.

These are my opinions. It doesn’t mean that I don’t like Evanescence, because I do, obviously. I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t. Do I have to love everything about them to enjoy their music? No. So I don’t see what the problem is.Umm...so...what you're trying to say is....you only like some of the lyrics and none of the music, but you still like the band? Because, uh...BEN (and David) did all the music and some of the lyrics.

aye, it definately does some different than anything we're used to Ben writing..but i think the song is still lyrically pretty good....

and diviphon, the main reason i am against your opinion is thatit isnt really a fair one concerdering the facts. the fact is.. Ben and Amy (and i guess David too) are the founders of evanescence.. meaning, the band wouldnt really be here if it weren't for Ben( im not saying it's jsut Ben that made the band, but without Ben, Amy wouldnt have started the band as we know it)... therefore, you saying the band will be better off without Ben is basically saying Evanescence will be better off wihtout Evanescence.

and oen more thing, you saying ben and avril should stop writing simply because you dont like them is one of the most ignorant statements ive ever heard. sure, people are entitles to their opinions, but NOT when it's such an opinion as that. i mean, it's like somebody saying they dont like their neighbor, and therefore that neighbor needs to move.. am i making some semblance of a sensible thought here?

ok ok move aside...mindys coming through...right well 3. Since it’s obvious that I don’t like the way Ben writes, that is why I said that I hope Evanescence’s next album will be better without him. Artistically I think that he was a bad influence on the band, and I hope that things will be better now that he’s gone.

These are my opinions. It doesn’t mean that I don’t like Evanescence, because I do, obviously. I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t. Do I have to love everything about them to enjoy their music? No. So I don’t see what the problem is.so you like fallen musically and not lyrically...i getcha. you like the sound of the song not the meaning...? I think thats what you meant.

got to try stay on topic so...i am pretty sure that it was a vest top with patterned stitching down the middle, to make it look like a corset...as for the actual song, its growing on me. i can actually listen to the version they play on tv because they mess with her voice to make it sound alright, unlike the live version i heard from here. :cool:

I like it, lyrics are good... :)

I'll say that nobody has a right or wrong opinion, but they are allowed to disagree with your opinion (which makes the person who disagrees think that you have the wrong opinion). I hope that in some way made sense.

Back on topic, musically speaking this song is a little different from anything that Moody has done so far. I'm not saying it's out of left field, but I think that Moody will write more diverse music and lyrics in the future.

Well, Moody didn't write the song by himself, Avril and him wrote the song together. That may be the reason you think it's a little different from anything he's written so far.

Well, Moody didn't write the song by himself, Avril and him wrote the song together. That may be the reason you think it's a little different from anything he's written so far.

Point taken ;)

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I'll say that nobody has a right or wrong opinion, but they are allowed to disagree with your opinion (which makes the person who disagrees think that you have the wrong opinion). I hope that in some way made sense.

Exactly. They'll just asume I'm wrong because they don't like what I have to say. I'm not saying my opinion is right for everyone, I'm just saying that's what I think and I'm entitled to my opinion just the same as anyone else.

Umm...so...what you're trying to say is....you only like some of the lyrics and none of the music, but you still like the band? Because, uh...BEN (and David) did all the music and some of the lyrics.

If you don't get it by now, you probably never will. It really isn't that hard, but this has all become totally pointless.

ok ok move aside...mindys coming through...right well so you like fallen musically and not lyrically...i getcha. you like the sound of the song not the meaning...? I think thats what you meant.

Yep! :)
I don't see why that was so hard for some to figure out. But as soon as I admit that I don't quite care for Evanescence's lyrics, that's when the fangirls will attack me for not loving everything about their beloved band. I've seen stuff like that happen here before, and I'm not interested in it happening to me. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.

All I'm saying is I don't think you know how big a part Ben played in what you ADMIT TO LIKING. That is all.

diviphon--I took your posts the same way Lauren did. When it seems as though you are saying that Ben was horrible for Evanescence and Fallen would be better off without his contributions. That, in turn, would mean that you're saying you don't like many of the lyrics he wrote, and the music that he wrote, which is quite a big portion of it. That's what it sounds like you were trying to say, and if that wasn't what you were trying to get across, saying that you don't like the lyrical value of what Ben has done for Evanescence probably would have done the trick.

diviphon--I took your posts the same way Lauren did. When it seems as though you are saying that Ben was horrible for Evanescence and Fallen would be better off without his contributions. That, in turn, would mean that you're saying you don't like many of the lyrics he wrote, and the music that he wrote, which is quite a big portion of it. That's what it sounds like you were trying to say, and if that wasn't what you were trying to get across, saying that you don't like the lyrical value of what Ben has done for Evanescence probably would have done the trick.

I like Evanescence's music, so I was only talking about the lyrics Ben has written.
And I didn't want to say that I don't like the lyrical value of what Ben has done for Evanescence because I didn't want it to turn into a big thing, but it did anyway. Not my fault.

I just listened to the song, and I gotta admit that it's not the best I've heard. Avril's voice sounds weak and a little bit to thin, but ... that's just what I feel about it.

The lyrics is alright, nothing major, but okay =)

I like Evanescence's music, so I was only talking about the lyrics Ben has written.
And I didn't want to say that I don't like the lyrical value of what Ben has done for Evanescence because I didn't want it to turn into a big thing, but it did anyway. Not my fault.


Ah, I see. I guess sometimes when your opinions differs for the majority, nothing can be said without it turning into a big thing. It's cool that you still said something knowing a lot of people would be against you.

Avril says it's one of her fav. song from her new album and I think the same since I heard most of their new song :) I'm in love with this lyrics and Avrils voice

I think it'll be good on the record. I hate Avril, she seems like the biggest pain in the ass alive, but I fully admit that her songs are catchy as hell. I can't stop listening to the new single, and it has the most ridiculous lyrics I've ever heard, but the chorus is good.

ANYWAY, I think Ben did a really nice job with the song. I'm sure it could be a hit.

I like Evanescence's music, so I was only talking about the lyrics Ben has written.
And I didn't want to say that I don't like the lyrical value of what Ben has done for Evanescence because I didn't want it to turn into a big thing, but it did anyway. Not my fault.
Ok...DON'T think I'm just picking on you for saying you don't like Ben, because that is NOT what I am trying to do.

BUT how can you say you don't like the lyrical value of what Ben has done for Evanescence when, aside from the songs that he has said he wrote by himself, you have NO CLUE exactly what parts of the songs he contributed.

I think it'll be good on the record. I hate Avril, she seems like the biggest pain in the ass alive, but I fully admit that her songs are catchy as hell. I can't stop listening to the new single, and it has the most ridiculous lyrics I've ever heard, but the chorus is good.

ANYWAY, I think Ben did a really nice job with the song. I'm sure it could be a hit.

The lyrics (for the verses) in her new single make me want to rip apart my brain. When I first heard them I thought "wtf?!" But I have to admit, the chorus is good...thank heavens for that.

As for the song Ben wrote with her....I like it a lot. I really like the way Ben writes, I think he is supremely talented. But anyway, yeah, that song has hit potential.

I have to download it on winmx, which is what im currently doing, because, i suck....thankyou!

Just to update: The recorded version of the song has been released and you can PM me if you want to hear it.

Hey, guys! I'm new at the board :cool: ... And I'm liking it a lot so far!
Anyways...
I just wanted to express my opinion... I don't know about you guys, but I REALLY dislike Avril Lavigne. When I found out Ben's working with her now I was like ''what da...?!?!!?'' :mad: ... gosh... I do not think she's talented, I think she's stuck up and pretends to be the tough rocking girl, and that role does't really fit her.

EVANESCENCE RULES! Love y'all! :D
muah!
Lucia.

Well, whether you like what Ben did or not, he has his reasons:

Okay, for the record...lets get a few things straight:
1. I did, in fact, write some songs with Avril for her new record. I did not write the whole thing with her. In fact, she is such a proficient writer, and has so many great songs for the next record, I don't even know if our songs will be used for it. But, we wrote and recorded three songs together.
2. I am not joining Avril's touring band. Nothing against her, but let's face it, there's no way that would keep my ego happy.
NO GUITAR SOLOS!!!!!
3. I have seen allot shit on the web about "i can't believe that", "they're so different", "Avril's not rock" yada, yada, yada. I just want to say that in my professional opinion that's bullshit.

Avril is a VERY talented writer. In fact, it was on of the most pleasant experiences of my career. She has been pigeonholed as a puppet, who doesn't write her own material and all
that jazz and it just isn't true. In fact, I can thank Avril for allot of upcoming Ben Moody music, because it was working with her that broke a 12 month streak of writer's block for me. So yeah, in summation, Avril rules. Anyone disagrees, right on. that's the beauty of free will. Your entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. And in my opinion, everyone should get naked.

He definitely had his reasons ;) :p

i reeli like That song. I think the lyrics are lovely(reminds me of myself actualli)
Her voice is very good....and well thats my opinion...

xxx

Just to update: The recorded version of the song has been released and you can PM me if you want to hear it.

just wondering if you have a cd quality version of nobodys home ?

just wondering if you have a cd quality version of nobodys home ?
If you want to ask someone a question like that use the private message feature. WE ARE NOT A FILESHARING COMMUNITY

I only have a live version on tape. I love it though.

She wants to go home, but nobody's home.
That's where she lies, broken inside.
With no place to go, no place to go to dry her eyes.
Broken inside.
thats my fav song of Avrils new album "Under My Skin"
I dont know about you guys but I definatly love Avrils voice and lyrics (all of them)
....I just love HER.

I just heard an album version of nobody's home.
well, thats not what I expected to hear... it sounds so raw, I even like acoustic version more.

If Ben wrote that then I have to hear it....he's a great songwriter.

It's an 'alright' track I guess. I've never been that fond of Avril's music - she's okay, not 'bad' by a long shot, and I do think she's got a fairly good voice considering the style of her music, but she's not quite to my personal liking - and this track follows suit.
In short, it's fairly good I guess, but it's not quite the sort of thing I'd choose to listen to on a regular basis (like I would with Ev's music or Dido or Alex Parks or Coldplay etc etc) though. Like with the rest of her music I've heard, if it comes on the radio I won't get excited, but at the same time I won't turn the radio off in disgust.

You can hear the Whole CD at mtv.com!!!

You can hear the Whole CD at mtv.com!!!
I just listened to the song Ben helped with. After reading the lyrics and thinking what the hell is up with the repetition of phrases, it actually sounds good with the music.

LOL, I also just listened to the track. I figured it would be an improvement over what I thought of the acoustic version and I loved it.

Avril is becoming a more likeable artist to me and I don't necessarily think that it's just Moody.

It seems like a noticeably darker album than her previous one.

I think Daydream should have not just been on the album, but the first single.
However, I think that Arista was right because the song doesn't seem to fit the theme of the album.

This is a decent album.

I'm not a huge fan of what I've heard of Daydream. Makes me want to stuff my ears with cotton. >_<

I think the artist she more than likely sounds like at this point is Alanis.

I agree, Cfw, partially. She does sound like Alanis...but early alanis. i mean, alanis' voice still sounds the same but she's done the whole soul-searching this so her lyrics aren't as angry as they used to be. But this CD is like a tamer version of "Jagged Little Pill," voice and anger. I, personally, am a huge fan of Avril...especially after seeing her in concert twice. The only concert I've seen better than hers is Ev's...it's just so full of energy. Anyway...when I got home with "under my skin," when i was listenin to the first track, there's this verse where she sounds SO much like early alanis, it's eerie. I swear I started looking in the liner notes to see if Alanis did some background vocals or something!!!

I was reading throught the posts so I thought I'd clear this up...Ben didn't write the lyrics to "Nobody's Home" or any other song on "Under My Skin." For "NH," Avril wrote the lyrics and her and Ben wrote the music to go with it together. And basically all the songs on her CD she either wrote herself or with Chantal Kreviazuk...with the exception of one collaboration w/Butch Walker and one collaboration w/Raine Maida. He (Ben) also played the guitar on the album version. Anyway...just to clear things up...

(ps - before anyone freaks out, i'm just going by what the liner notes told me)

If Ben wrote that then I have to hear it....he's a great songwriter.

This is just the one I decided to reply to...but just so everyone knows, Ben didn't write the lyrics. Avril wrote the lyrics and her and Ben wrote the music to go with it together. He also played the guitar on the album version. Anyway...just to clear things up...

(ps - before anyone freaks out, i'm just going by what the liner notes told me)

Hmm , well it's sounds like a great song ..**Big ups 2 Moody**..Umm I don't find anything wrong with Avril to tell you the truth , I think that wat she wears and sings ,and likes to listen to is 3 different things , and to call her a poser or something is a bit , pointless, im not saying u guys said that or anything , just saying that Cuz theres some pple i know that just randomly hate someone when they dont even know them! lol ..But yeah ..her songs are aiight , i like the fact that they dont seem like HARD songs to write , she seems to be at the perfect level of maturity , and both her and AMy Lee dont have to strip to get attention , Thats great!! ..Umm i think her voice is aiight , i mean its countryish , and everyones voice is different ..so yeah ..!! ..Shes pretty cute...Lol..Byut yeah ppeepls!!
Love yeah lots ! ..

I picked up Avril's new CD today. Great disc! Get it if you can.

NOBODY'S HOME
Written by Avril Lavigne
Music by Avril Lavigne & Ben Moody
Smellslikemetal Publishing (what happened to Zombies Ate My Publishing??)
Produced by Don Gilmore
Vocals: Avril Lavigne
Guitar: Ben Moody
Ben Moody appears courtesy of Wind-Up Records, LLC
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Ben Moody for collaborating with me, and for the friendship. Good times bro, keep 'em rollin'!

I picked up Avril's new CD today. Great disc! Get it if you can.

NOBODY'S HOME
Written by Avril Lavigne
Music by Avril Lavigne & Ben Moody
Smellslikemetal Publishing (what happened to Zombies Ate My Publishing??)
Produced by Don Gilmore
Vocals: Avril Lavigne
Guitar: Ben Moody
Ben Moody appears courtesy of Wind-Up Records, LLC
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Ben Moody for collaborating with me, and for the friendship. Good times bro, keep 'em rollin'!

Wow I didn't know Ben did the guitar, I thought he just wrote it with her :eek: .

I picked up Avril's new CD today. Great disc! Get it if you can.

NOBODY'S HOME
Written by Avril Lavigne
Music by Avril Lavigne & Ben Moody
Smellslikemetal Publishing (what happened to Zombies Ate My Publishing??)
Produced by Don Gilmore
Vocals: Avril Lavigne
Guitar: Ben Moody
Ben Moody appears courtesy of Wind-Up Records, LLC
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Ben Moody for collaborating with me, and for the friendship. Good times bro, keep 'em rollin'!

He's still with Wind-up :eek: *breathes sigh of relief*

I thought WU dropped him after you know what.

I guess Amy, Rocky, Will, John and Terry have the rights to ZAMP now.

i bought the cd today awsome albumb

I guess Amy, Rocky, Will, John and Terry have the rights to ZAMP now.

I dunno...Maybe he just make one that is his OWN, I'm pretty sure Zombiesatemy was a Ben and Will thing. But I'm not positive.

I dunno...Maybe he just make one that is his OWN, I'm pretty sure Zombiesatemy was a Ben and Will thing. But I'm not positive.
zombiesatemymom was their site, but for publishing it was Ben. Will didnt write those songs on Fallen. (as far as I know)

zombiesatemymom was their site, but for publishing it was Ben. Will didnt write those songs on Fallen. (as far as I know)

I knew it was something like that....


Incidently I think zombiesatemymom.com is dead :(

i like the song nobody's home and i also like her new song don't tell me.

He's still with Wind-up :eek: *breathes sigh of relief*

I thought WU dropped him after you know what.

I guess Amy, Rocky, Will, John and Terry have the rights to ZAMP now.

Wasn't The End Has Come under Zombies Ate My Publishing?

Wasn't The End Has Come under Zombies Ate My Publishing?

Good point, but perhaps he started the project while he was still with the band?

Meh, probably not lol.

Maybe he has them both because he's cool like that.

i love the song! her whole cd is awesome!! :D

http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=26112

Some things never change.

I share the same opinion as some ppl here, altough the lyrics are very good in my opinion, Avril or the way she sings doesn't fit the lyrics very well, no prob with her voice, I just don't like the way the instruments were put there.. I'm listening to Avril's album and tough I've heard much worse before it's not bad at all, but isn't very good either, the songs I like the most and that I play more than 1 time :p are "don't tell me", "freak out", and particulary "I always get what I want" <<powerfull rithm on this song :cool: but I tought the album was going to be something more powerfull like this last song I named.

http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=26112

Some things never change.

What do you mean by that? I think that bird was totally acceptable :).

http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=26112

Some things never change.

I think the FCC needs to stfu and get over the Janet incident. IT'S A FINGER. GET OVER IT YOU BASTARDS. *coughs*

But yeah. Nothing unexpected from Avril. She always does that shit.

I love Nobody's Home! I got the CD yesterday and skipped straight to that song. Then I went back and heard the rest of the CD. I love it!!! I'm listening to it right now, actually.

Interesting. At another board I talk about music at, early opinion says that this should be the third single. That of course, is not to say that it's going to be, but it's an excellent sign that it has been recieved well.

I just bought Avril's new album today and I must say that it is way better than her frist one as for NOBODY'S HOME I think it's great and I love the chorus

And, yea Avril sounds more like Alanis on this album then her first one :)

I bought Avril's new CD for curiosity's sake, and to hear Nobody's Home.

I'm suprised!

Under my Skin isn't bad at all. It's amazing compared to most of her last album. I like her. And I guess I shouldn't feel ashamed of that, because have no interest in the "punk" scene. In fact, I think it's a joke. So to be shunned by the "punx" for listening to pOZser!~Avril shouldn't bother me at all.

Nobody's Home really is an amazing song. I've had it on repeat for the last three hours. It's the best song on the whole CD. Actually, It's the best song I've heard in a long time.

Avril is growing as an artist, and I'll always support her. She's one of the best musical acts to come out of Canada.

Canada produces a lot of crappy music. A loooooot.

As for the "flipping the bird" thing, who cares? TRL suckels the cock. Good for Avril.

BEN = HUGE TALENT.

What do you mean by that? I think that bird was totally acceptable :).

Basically all the talk of Avril growing up. People are just going to see this as the same old Avril. In the long run though, I suppose it won't mean anything.

i mean yeah thats song is pretty good for avril.... i like the song.... i think that since combining with ben .. it's basically the only reason why she has improved within song writing.... it's bens lyrics that maje u like it

i mean yeah thats song is pretty good for avril.... i like the song.... i think that since combining with ben .. it's basically the only reason why she has improved within song writing.... it's bens lyrics that maje u like it

Actually, Avril wrote the song's lyrics. Ben Moody helped her with the musical aspect.

I personally love the song. It is my favorite song on the album, besides forgotten. And I think Avril did a good job with it. The entire album almost seems to have an EV feel to it. She tries to express herself a lot like Amy. When you listen to Nobody's Home...imagine what it would sound like if Amy sang it! :eek: Avril's CD is actually pretty good and better than her last.

Avril just said on Much Music that she wrote "Nobody's Home" about a girl she knew in High School

I personally love the song. It is my favorite song on the album, besides forgotten. And I think Avril did a good job with it. The entire album almost seems to have an EV feel to it. She tries to express herself a lot like Amy. When you listen to Nobody's Home...imagine what it would sound like if Amy sang it! :eek: Avril's CD is actually pretty good and better than her last.

I agree, wholeheartedly. Although her album is ten times better than the last, she still manages to put her lyrics in a manner that's like 'Shut up you stupid boy, what I say goes'. She strikes me as someone who's really immature through her lyrics. That'll probably never change, since she insists upon using the words dumb and stupid every chance she can get.

She also leaves nothing up to the mind. Symbolism = not avril. Doesn't seem like she's got the biggest vocabulary either. =/ Avril's too literal and obvious about things.

Not that all this is a bad thing, but I don't find her lyrical style to be at all like Amy's. Amy comes across as this elegant, educated, artsy person when she's writing lyrics. She's mastered the art quite well. Avril seems like she took her first step forward while writing Nobody's Home lyrics-wise. Hope to see more of that in the future.

I agree, wholeheartedly. Although her album is ten times better than the last, she still manages to put her lyrics in a manner that's like 'Shut up you stupid boy, what I say goes'. She strikes me as someone who's really immature through her lyrics. That'll probably never change, since she insists upon using the words dumb and stupid every chance she can get.

She also leaves nothing up to the mind. Symbolism = not avril. Doesn't seem like she's got the biggest vocabulary either. =/ Avril's too literal and obvious about things.

Not that all this is a bad thing, but I don't find her lyrical style to be at all like Amy's. Amy comes across as this elegant, educated, artsy person when she's writing lyrics. She's mastered the art quite well. Avril seems like she took her first step forward while writing Nobody's Home lyrics-wise. Hope to see more of that in the future.

I agree.

Dude, she dropped out in 10th grade. If she wasn't gorgeous and had a voice, she'd be working at a gas station. So her vocabulary...Yeah. I assume it's not much better than that of a...Well, a 10th grader.

But, I do think the simplistic lyrics suit her and her "rebel teenage" image.

And, yeah. She's only 19. I assume her style of writing will twist and turn in the future as she gets older and wiser. Let's wait and see.

And second, after reading the lyrics Ben wrote, it sounded to me like maybe he was writing about Amy? hmmm.. MAYBE! 'i couldnt tell you why she felt that way. She felt it everyday. And I couldn't help her, I just watched her make the same mistakes again' MAYBE! good point! «Vampire»....................... Anyway. To Avril. Her voice does get a bit annoying at times... but she CAN hit those high notes. but her voice is a little...idk... not as elegant as...lets say...Amy ;) lol. but Avril's voice may still be developing? if that happens in life(at that age) >_> im not sure...not sure lol. Amy still sounds and acts like a 17/18 yr old "rebel".... she's almost an adult... and she's legal! lmao jk. anyway, she has to mature. i guess.. And i forgot Avril dropped out... did Amy ever go to college? or just highschool.

hmmm.. MAYBE! 'i couldnt tell you why she felt that way. She felt it everyday. And I couldn't help her, I just watched her make the same mistakes again' MAYBE! good point!COLOR]

Ben didn't write the lyrics to the song. It was just said that Avril wrote the lyrics about a girl from high school. =/



I agree.

Dude, she dropped out in 10th grade. If she wasn't gorgeous and had a voice, she'd be working at a gas station. So her vocabulary...Yeah. I assume it's not much better than that of a...Well, a 10th grader.

But, I do think the simplistic lyrics suit her and her "rebel teenage" image.

And, yeah. She's only 19. I assume her style of writing will twist and turn in the future as she gets older and wiser. Let's wait and see.

I know what you're trying to say, but at 19/20 Amy was writing the songs off of Fallen. I feel bad for Amy that someone compared her to Avril lmfao.

I agree that they suit her though. She could just try to tone down the 'This is me, I'm right. SHUT UP NOW!' type thing. *smacks her* I'D TAKE YOU DOWN BIATCH.

Okay, I'm unnecessarily hyper. I'll stop now. >_>

did Amy ever go to college? or just highschool.

Amy did go to college. I don't remember how long, but she did before she got signed with Ben and David.

is it just me or does Slipped Away remind me of My Immortal (especially the beginning and story) but some parts sound retarded like when she sings 'there you go there you go etc" and thanks Cfw ^_^
.::back to topic::.
but... how come i keep hearing that BEN wrote this song? im confoozled
She tries to express herself a lot like Amy
maybe Amy is now Avrils role model ;)

You can now stream a new live version of "Nobody's Home" as well as other songs from Avril's new CD here: http://www.avrilbandaids.com/audio/ii.php (I'm not sure whether you have to be a member or not).

Besides "Nobody's Home," I recommend the songs "Forgotten" and "Together."

I like the lyrics. I'm not gonna listen to the actual recording because I know hearing Avril's voice sing it will make me not like it as much. They're really good lyrics though, could have done without all the repetitions, but they're pretty good.

did ben write the lyrics or the music? coz people are saying that ben wrote this song. and then others are saying avril wrote it :?

Just an update:

Nobody's Home will be the third single from UMS. So expect to hear the song on radio in about 4-5 months.

EDIT: And to answer the question in the post before, Avril wrote the entire song and both Ben and Avril worked on the music.

Just an update:

Nobody's Home will be the third single from UMS. So expect to hear the song on radio in about 4-5 months.

It is the perfect song to release next.

So the lyrics are Avril's, no?
Then... the acoustic version we hears at the beggining has nothing from Ben's?

Well, I really want to hear the album version.

Yes, the lyrics are completely Avril's. Ben just helped with the guitar aspect of it.

I'm kinda sad that it's being released. It always seems to taint a good song. 8(

uhh...yeah..ben din't write that song...

I like this song, it is my favourite song on her last album.
But I had heard that Ben and she had made another song, is this truth??

I love this song. It's just been announced as Avril's 3rd single off Under My Skin :)

nobodys home is a great song.

I love this song. It's just been announced as Avril's 3rd single off Under My Skin :)
Yeah, that's what I thought it would be, I'm happy that it is cause it really is a good song.

Yeah, that's what I thought it would be, I'm happy that it is cause it really is a good song.

I also am fond of that song...but I can't listen to it much it gets on my nerves!

This is an update on the song. . . I thought I'd post this in this thread since the other one was closed (even though it wasn't just about the new single being released). . .

So yeah the video is being shot for the new single. Here's the article:

To say Avril Lavigne is all grown up in the video for her next single, "Nobody's Home," is an understatement. So matured is the Canadian rocker with a reputation for raising hell that she'll be seen formally dressed and surrounded by a middle-aged orchestra.

Being backed by oboes, violins and violas isn't the only first for Lavigne, who is filming the clip Thursday (July 29) and Friday in Los Angeles. The 19-year-old singer will also be making her video acting debut in the clip for the third single off Under My Skin.

Interspersed with glimpses of Lavigne performing with chamber musicians in a refined concert hall is footage of Lavigne portraying a down-and-out girl who's definitely seen better days. Although it's unclear which scenes will make the video's final cut, the camera will alternately find our disheveled protagonist wasting the day away on the street with her friends, getting strange looks from passersby, shoplifting and busking at curbside, according to the clip's treatment.

Even though it's being filmed this week, the video, directed by Diane Martel (Clay Aiken, Snoop Dogg), won't be surfacing for a while. "Nobody's Home," co-written with former Evanescence guitarist Ben Moody, is expected to appear at radio and video outlets in October. The clip is being shot now, though, because once Lavigne embarks on a European tour in September, she'll likely stay on the road throughout the rest of the year.

It sounds really dark like the song. . . and the new orchestra version of the song in the video is going to make the song sound even MORE Evanescence like.

But I had heard that Ben and she had made another song, is this truth??
Avril & Ben wrote and recorded 3 songs together!!!

I have a remix of this song.

It's not official, but it's cool. It's 7 minutes long. If you've heard the Jason Nevins ElectroChill Mix of Anastacia's Sick & Tired, it sounds sort of like that. It uses the Live@AOL? (not certain) acoustic version.

Anybody interested?

Nobody's Home officially goes for adds on October 26th.

Also, in other Avril news, because of Arista dissolving, artists on Arista are moving to other record labels related to Arista.

Avril is now on Clive Davis' J Records label, which also features Maroon 5 and Alicia Keys.

Nobody's Home officially goes for adds on October 26th.

Also, in other Avril news, because of Arista dissolving, artists on Arista are moving to other record labels related to Arista.

Avril is now on Clive Davis' J Records label, which also features Maroon 5 and Alicia Keys.

That sucks that Arista's dissolving. I wonder what Sarah McLachlan will be on now.

LOL, I also just listened to the track. I figured it would be an improvement over what I thought of the acoustic version and I loved it.

Avril is becoming a more likeable artist to me and I don't necessarily think that it's just Moody.

It seems like a noticeably darker album than her previous one.



I posted that on my livejournal and got reamed. For the record, I am not saying this because she collaborated with Ben. But to me, she has always had a really good voice. Also, while the lyrics are sometimes childish,its cuz well they probably were written when she was.

But I think that she has alot of potential. I personally think My Happy Ending is a good solid song, that I think she wrote herself, but I could be wrong.

If she smartens up and curbs the ego a little bit, I think she will become a good artist.

i dont know what i think of it really... it's ok but it seems like they've tryed to make it sound angsty by just repeating the words fallen and broken. fallen..........fallen.....?....now where have i heard that before? nah im kidding...it's not too bad...i've heard worse! but i'v have heard better too!

I love this Avril song. Happy Ending is cool too. :) I can kinda sense a difference in Nobody's Home and her other songs. Like...I guess it's the words. I can't really explain. It's probably only because I know Ben helped her write it...and yeah. :rolleyes: :D

That sucks that Arista's dissolving. I wonder what Sarah McLachlan will be on now.

My bad. I thought they were dissolving, but apparently they regrouped. Sarah is still on Arista, but artists like Usher, Avril, Outkast and Pink all jumped ship.

As soon as I heard the album Nobody's Home stuck out and I loved it...its definately the best song on the record and its all down to our Ben! But Amy's and the guys are such good writers they don't really need Benny chops like Avril does. :)

i like the song alot i can relate to it

the guitar part reminds me a lot of the "rock" version of understanding but faster

My bad. I thought they were dissolving, but apparently they regrouped. Sarah is still on Arista, but artists like Usher, Avril, Outkast and Pink all jumped ship.

Well, Sarah's what I care about *cough* i hate pink *cough*

So, um, yeah...I like "Nobody's Home," but even before I heard it, I kind of assumed it'd be a single. The third single, because the third single is almost always the slow, moody song. From anyone.

(haha, I said "moody")

the guitar part reminds me a lot of the "rock" version of understanding but faster

Considering the man who wrote the part, you could assume why. ;)

im so excited! i love Nobody's Home. I'm listening to it as we speak...type.. I hope it does really well on the radio and charts ^_^! It should. It's just...catchy...thanks to Ben...(i think?)hurray ^_^

I just saw the video for Nobody's Home for the first time. It's quite good. It's not extremely cheesy, it's very simplistic.

Easily her best video to date.

I just saw the video for Nobody's Home for the first time. It's quite good. It's not extremely cheesy, it's very simplistic.

Easily her best video to date.

I agree it's her best video yet.

She looks very weird as a homeless person. She looks beautiful as the "classy" person in the video though.

I'm really proud of her direction.

ive not seen the vid yet!! im dieing to though! i never thought i'd say this about an avril song...but i love it!!! its def. one of my fav's evar!! :D
does anyone know anywhere to get a stream of it?! yahoo hasnt got any of her vids! *grumbles*

Avril & Ben wrote and recorded 3 songs together!!!

What are the other songs??

...you know what most surprises me...is that no one ever points out the fact that ben is in love with the E-G-D-E chord progression that he uses on the chorus of bring me to life, the end has come, and now in this avril song.
i'm not knocking him or anything..i'm just surprised that no one has noticed it yet.
-matt

The lyrics are cool but I hate that there are some many lines repeated.gotta listen to the audio now.
edit:the song sounds cool (yeah)typical Avril last track.

Its kind of repeitive.... Its okay the first time you hear it but i certainly wouldnt have it on repeat on my stereo...its doing that enough on the song itself let alone me doing it.
But im sure it will do well in the pop charts.

...you know what most surprises me...is that no one ever points out the fact that ben is in love with the E-G-D-E chord progression that he uses on the chorus of bring me to life, the end has come, and now in this avril song.
i'm not knocking him or anything..i'm just surprised that no one has noticed it yet.
-matt
i did notice that both going under acousic and my happy ending have the chords Bm-G-D-A in that same order. i guess its just a coincidence since Ben didn't write that song.

The whole time I was watching it I was thinking why would a homeless person be wearing make-up on like that. I thought she refused to take it off till I saw the end of the video.

Interesting video tho.

This is one of the few Avril songs I like.

The video is definatly my favourite of hers.

I've never been a big Avril fan, but I actually bought her last CD (after listening to my friend's copy) and I enjoyed most of the songs. Nobody's Home is by far her best song. I guess the lyrics just hit too close to home. I was kinda disappointed to learn that she wrote those lyrics about somebody she knew in high school and not of her own experience though. I always interpreted the song as a girl speaking about herself in third person form. Does anybody else have the same interpretation? :confused:

Ok. Saw a low quality version of the vid, and I must say...I'm depressed. But it's good. And I agree with emptyshell.

I actually like this song..... I mean let's just push away the bas thoughts of avril and look at the song in a music way.... i like this song, and another song of avrils that i really found special was that song on her new album..i heard it once, and it was nice....it went sumthin like "the day.... u went away... the day i found out it won't be the same"... well i dont no what it was called but it was pretty. Avrils a very pwetty girl and she's got alot of talent, and it just annoys me when they say she can't sing.... if she couldn't sing, then why do so much ppl love her to death, and why are her albums selling like mad, and why do thousands and thousands of lil kids dress like her...
Bleh....

WELL i like that song once again...... *claps*
peace and b good to your muthers.... lub ya

Ok, now I trashed Avril before I went to see her on Monday night in concert, and boy was I wrong. I said I wasn't looking forward to it because she can't sing, and I was completely wrong, she's got a fantastic voice live, and I thoroghly enjoyed the show. She wasn't acting like the moody teenager I thought she would, and she was really great and entertaining to the crowd. I also got some awesome pics if anyone's interested just PM me.
I am a reformed person now and will never trash Avril again, whatever anybody says, the girl can sing. :D

I really like the song. :D

I loooove this song. It's a beautiful song i think ! My favourite from her new album ^^

I actually like this song..... I mean let's just push away the bas thoughts of avril and look at the song in a music way.... i like this song, and another song of avrils that i really found special was that song on her new album..i heard it once, and it was nice....it went sumthin like "the day.... u went away... the day i found out it won't be the same"... well i dont no what it was called but it was pretty. Avrils a very pwetty girl and she's got alot of talent, and it just annoys me when they say she can't sing.... if she couldn't sing, then why do so much ppl love her to death, and why are her albums selling like mad, and why do thousands and thousands of lil kids dress like her...
Bleh....

WELL i like that song once again...... *claps*
peace and b good to your muthers.... lub ya

The song is called Slipped Away.

And Britney Spears proves that you don't have to be able to sing to have successful albums, and have kids dress like you. >_> Just pointing out.

Totally agree with that.

I hate Avril... BUT I absolutely LOVE this song. I'm not a big fan of her voice, but I think this song is her best, compared to all the other sh*t she's released and I think that the reason for this is Ben. He rocks!!!

But the song is awesome. I love the lyrics and I love the music as well. If only Amy sung it...

Well, I like the song, but I like the album version and the live acoustic version on the bonus track "Under My Skin".... the AOL version sounds likes she is ill and she was crying! Poor Avril!

I am huge Fan Avril fan!

where are you people seeing the new video? it hasn't been released on tv yet..

i had to get it from a fansite somewhere. i haven't seen it anywhere like yahoo launch or MTV.com. i just searched for "nobody's home video" and found it.

same here. i searched 'nobody's home video' and there was a link somewhere.
It was an OK video. Just ok. It does make sense with the song but idk.. IMO...the video ruined the song... but thats just IMO.

The video Is AMAZING! it has been on repeat for 2 days now!!! Its amazing!! I love it alot!!

yes but WHERE can it be found??

ok so ben moody wrote it... thats the only song i liked off her new cd.. before i knew ben wrote it.. wow

yes but WHERE can it be found??

On Google:

http://www.google.com/custom?q=Nobody%27s+Home+Video&sa=Search&client=pub-5477167694049186&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3B VLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3 A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000% 3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A1%3B&hl=en

I thought that the video was pretty good. It's definitely her best but...it's a tad boring. =\ Could have had a little bit more to it.

I like this song. Her new album is way better than the first. I'm not her biggest fan, but she is talented. She's just doing her own thing.

i like the song but the video is a bit boring. i liked my happy ending's vid way better than this one

that was a GREAT video. my favourite avril video to date.

ok so ben moody wrote it... thats the only song i liked off her new cd.. before i knew ben wrote it.. wow

The CD liner notes for "Nobody's Home" say that Avril wrote most of it -- all the words and some of the music. Ben's participation on her CD is very disappointing - quite ordinary backup guitar on, and writing only a small part of, just that one song. He deserves better. :-(


-- Joan
NP (LOUD): Alter Bridge "Down To My Last"
A guitar anthem for the ages
Mark Tremonti, guitar

The CD liner notes for "Nobody's Home" say that Avril wrote most of it -- all the words and some of the music. Ben's participation on her CD is very disappointing - quite ordinary backup guitar on, and writing only a small part of, just that one song. He deserves better. :-(


-- Joan
NP (LOUD): Alter Bridge "Down To My Last"
A guitar anthem for the ages
Mark Tremonti, guitar
..well it's not HIS album. And he did write 2 other songs with Avril but they didn't make it on the album.

thank u for postin' that

yes thanks for the info, i don't know much about avril i just saw the title of this thread and was like whoa

shhh dont listen to avril she sucks and is rude... throw stuff at her

i just noticed something which may be wrong but here goes. In the scene where shes yelling at the mirror. When her arm was up i saw a little 'slash' mark on her wrist. could it be like a cut out story from the video? hmm...maybe im seeing things o_o

I finally got around to see the video. While I like the song, I don't think the video did too much for it. I liked the way Avril looking with the orchestra, but that 80's, brown ratted hair was not pretty at all. And yes, I do understand that was what they were trying to convey. When I heard this song, I always pictured a Linkin Park Numb type video for it, not a video about a homeless person. Different interpretations of the song I guess.

I completely agree! The video was disappointing. I expected it to be so much more intense and tragic. It just had her singing. It actually pissed me off.

Linkin Park's Numb video was amazing! This was just... ok. Not even OK, lower than that.

I did really enjoy her video for Nobody's Home.
The song is really good, and I believe she did a good job singing it.

The video, is sad. Is a different story, I didn't expect it to be about a homeless girl either..
The part where she tries to fix her hair and is unable, is heartbreaking (yeah, I'm very very sensible ;))

I do think that the video shows she's grown up. I said that already somewhere else.


Did anyone else see if the mom, as she picks up the phone, has a black bruised eye? Or is it just my crappy quality video? :p

I heard the song the other day and listening to the lyrics it does sound liek the kind of song Ben writes although if i didn't know that this was the right song i probably wouldn't have guessed but its isn't a bad song she sings it ok i don't really like her much but i'd much rather she has hit singles than most of the shit in the charts over here

Such a moving song, and fantastic video :D

I have seen the video, is good and strange but normaly for the lyrics.

I just saw the video for "Nobody's Fool" this afternoon and really liked it. I know by eyes with be glued to the screen whenever it comes on. I have heard the song beofre may times seeing as i dowloaded it and i just love the song. It's so emotional and moving. I might just buy her album...meh... probably not. I like her new music a lot better than her old music. Much more relatable(i don't think that's a word, but you know what i mean)