That was my idea, except e-133t would be more suitable.

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Scientist from Argentina discovered that people with insufficient brain and sexual activity read their e-mail with their hand on the mouse

And I thought I was original.

I think its a good one Jo!

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No offense to you or Vince but I was under the impression that part of the reason the PS forum was gettin' gone was because it was too clique-y. It had been said many times in the past before this became a thread here that people felt put out because of it. Making a user group like that is really only propagating the perceived elitism in the community. I like whoever suggested [e] Vet or what about something like the EESF used to be, only more along the lines of "contributer" and really only for people who were PS or actual contributors, not voted in.

ETA: I have an even better idea, instead of making a new user group, why don't you just do away with any additional user groups all together, except for mods and WC? If you want more posts and members (intelligent and worthwhile) that's the best way to do it. I don't want to see the PS group go away in it's entirety, I want the forum to be available to people who actually contributed and donated, not some goal for people to stroke their egos with. Set everyone on the same level, please. Or this ship is gonna sink faster than it already is.

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LEGEN
wait for it and
I hope you're not
lactose intolerant
cause the second
half of that word is
D A R Y

^ I agree with what you are saying b00bles. I still think however, that people who have been posting here for a loooong time should have a couple perks. Not necessarily a secret forum, but the larger Avatars and whatever else seems sufficient to me.


And as far as the clique-yness of Evboard, its not as bad as it used to be. Most of the people that post here now are very open to new members. They just choose to not post. It's not our fault really.

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As an older member, I agree and I think it should be kept for people who actually donated (and I realize that people now did not have the chance, but that is beside the point) and contributed in a substantial form. And only open to those people.
Either that or just put everyone on the same level. Why do we need perks here anyway? What purpose do they serve? What "perks" are there for PS other than a fancy usertitle bar and a forum that never gets posted in?

The cliqueyness of EvBoard is exactly the same and always will be, it's just a new clique and yes, people are nice to new people but that still doesn't make it any less clique-y.

I've written pages upon pages talking about this with other people. And I really think that if EvBoard is going to benefit from anything it's going to be making it a user-friendly forum and having basic usergroups. Members, Mods and Admins. None of this other stuff. And also maybe toning down the sexual comments and language a bit.

I know this sounds hypocritical coming from me, but after a recent experience elsewhere and seeing how another forum thrives from this kind of membership mentality, I really think it'd be beneficial.

ETA: Also having members be members first, this includes admins, mods etc... people who only post when there is stuff changing (in terms of the mod team and admins) or technical stuff is going down should be members first. Mods and admins should contribute to discussion with members outside of website changes first, then that second. But whatever, I'm just a member and I'm entitled to my opinion, but I feel like theres more of a user group split here. Some mods don't post unless it concerns them as mods, they're not members, they are simply moderators.

ETA: My other question is---this concerns the PS group, why is this public?

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LEGEN
wait for it and
I hope you're not
lactose intolerant
cause the second
half of that word is
D A R Y

Alright gang, by my counts Elder and Oldschool got the most votes and are tied at 5 each. I'm going to make an executive decision and swing the vote to OldSchool.

To have alittle fun with this I am going to hold a rank design contest for our new OldSchool group. Watch for another thread on this. I am going to lock this thread since its ran it's course now.

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