Sadness

yeah? I read on a ev fansite that Amy tried to commit suicide in her hotel room and almost died. weird huh?

Deceiver-Of-Fools

Hey, I was just saying what I'd seen on the website. It had been sourced aswell, so there was no need for the little dose of sarcasm.
There's no need for any drama on the thread, OK?
I was only stating that Amy Lee makes a habit of insulting other bands, Lacuna Coil amongst them. End of story.

Katya

I've never heard her insult Lacuna Coil. Ever. Trust me, there would've been a huge blow-up among the fans if she had. A lot of Ev fans are LC fans as well and they and the LC fans who hate Ev would've jumped all over it. I doubt it's true, but if it is, then whatever.

I've heard that Cristina made a comment that implied that the only reason why Ev is successful is because they had a better marketing strategy or something. I don't quite remember. So there are stories of bad blood on both sides, and you should never believe everything you read on the internet. Especially concerning LC-vs-Ev stuff, since fans on both sides love slamming the other side. If it was sourced, I suggest you check it. Find either a scan or a direct webpage link to make sure.

And actually, the only insult habits Amy has had is her habit of making comments about past Ev members. Aside from a Britney Spears joke and a comment about Christina Aguilera's oversexed image (back in the day), I don't recall her slagging off other artists. Do refresh my memory if I'm wrong, though. I'm curious to know what she said.

Through my EYES

Here we go again, Amy does not make habits of insulting other artists and if you think she does than show us the evidence.

Oh and about WT being deeper, i would'nt call fairytales deep. Where is the real emotion.

music is about emotions why not make those emotions real and amy has put true feelings into her songs even if you dont like her lyrical content.

Katya

I would appreciate it if you didn't go insulting other bands, through my EYES. WT doesn't write fairy tales. They draw inspiration from all different sources. Yes, they have songs based on movies and books, but the also have songs based on real life. Frozen, for example, deals with domestic abuse. Deceiver Of Fools is about dictators and how they mislead their people. The Truth Beneath The Rose is about holy wars. The Howling is also about war and how it destroys people's lives. Say My Name is about dealing with someone who has Alzheimer's. Mother Earth deals with death. Obviously, those aren't the only ones, but they're the ones I remember off the top of my head.

So you see, while it happens that they don't write about personal experience, they certainly do write emotional songs that deal with everyday life. And a lot of their lyrics can be interpreted in many different ways...the same with some of Ev's older stuff, I may add. Some of Ev's old stuff is even more vague than WT's. So please don't turn your nose up at bands you don't know much about. It only irritates those of us who are fans of said bands, and the last thing this board needs is more drama.

Thank you.

Deceiver-Of-Fools

Can you say hypocrisy? You ask me not to say anything without proving it and then you follow it up with a completely unfounded statement.
Emotion? Lets see..

• Say My Name - Dealing with someone you love struggling with Alzheimer's, as Katya said.
• Forgiven - Unconditional love. From the lyrics its about the death of someone you loved. I always read into it that Sharon is singing to Luna, in a future where Luna has died. If there was ANY emotion, it would be a mother singing to her departed child.
• Mother Earth- the death of a beloved pet. Sharon said it was about her cat. It may not be the love between two people, but a powerful love all the same.
• Our Farewell - Another song about the death (or perhaps departure) of a loved one.
• Caged - A woman singing to a person who has deceived her, and robbed her of the ability to trust.
• Our Solemn Hour - how war tears apart humanity, and how Sharon wants to cry out for some sort of release.
• Frozen - domestic, physical and sexual abuse.
• TTBTR - how religion is used to justify the sins we commit. How the dangers of this are helping to destroy us.
• Deceiver Of Fools - Dictatorships and the suffering they inflict on others
• The Promise - a bereaved woman promised revenge on those who killed her lover, and her heartbreak at her loss.
• Bittersweet - a ballad about what could have been.
• Pearls Of Light - its about losing your roots, forgetting all that made you who you are. That's what I always see in the song
• It's The Fear - this song is most likely about depression, and the fear that it may return at any time.

Songs don't have to be written in the first person to pack an emotional punch. Look at Jillian or hand of Sorrow. Jillian and her love can never be together, their "dream ended long ago". Or HoS... forced to leave the one he loves because he is bound by a senseless oath? Just because its not me, me, me all the time does not make the songs less significant. Sometimes its easier to relate to songs like Jillian, because the song isn't all me, me, me. Within Temptation's songs always have more than one layer of meaning, and different people see different things. Especially in the older songs.. I still have trouble deciphering some of them. And that's what makes me enjoy them. I can find new meanings each time, like re-reading a poem.

Now, QUIT making drama, Through My EYES.. this thread is not about your mistaken ideas about a band you seem to know very little of, and your petty tirade against any band that isn't Evanescence. So STOP. Write it down on a piece of paper or a diary..but don't keep forcing other people to go off topic because of what you say all the time. Please. And I'm sorry to everyone else. Can we get back on topic??

Through my EYES

I understand this, but i don't appreciate being constantly told that TOD lyrics are not meaningful or DEEP in any means.

I can relate to so many of TOD lyrics and not for the love factor but other meanings. Not every song on TOD is about an EX and they can all be interpreted differently.

I find the lyrics on TOD very powerful and emotionally driven and that is something that is very special to me, even if it means that some of the songs are coming from amy's relationships.

A human being feels and it is only natural for a human to express emotions, if you don't express emotions then your obviously inhuman. It would be sacrilege to stop someone or critisize someone for expressing raw and real emotions and that is what is happening. The strongest emotions are love and hate why not use them through music as your muse to connect with people that have experienced these emotions.

I really don't care what anyone thinks of amy's lyrics because i believe they are very strong and heartfelt and i repect one's will to have to express emotions.

The Reaper

I was gonna be damned to hell if i ever found me posting here, but IMO Through MY Eyes..........please listen, and I mean LISTEN.








TOD lyrics may be the best lyrics for you and whatnot to relate to. But how dare you set yourself up to look like you are doing right now. Just because different bands write lyrics based on their own experiences that don't tickle your fancy, does not mean that they don't affect people. Yes, I admit, I love Amy's surreal lyrics, but WTF..........TOD isn't a freaking bible. If you treat it that way, hey to each his own, but don't you dare insult other peoples' lyrics just because you think they aren't real to you.

mrzeus21221

I believe that most of you guys have forgotten this post. Sure that is weird. This may be a worst event that ever happened in the music world not just for Mrs.Hartzler. Personally, i've never heard a singer artist ever tried to commit suicide during such young age. But yet again, this could be another funny jokes around here. Many people considered that Evanescence is an emo band so no surprise to me if they are the one who made up this joke. I wonder how Mrs.Hartzler would response to this if she hear about it?
This is mrzeus21221, signing out...

Through my EYES

I realise alot of Wt's songs have real feelings and i'm not the one who started this compairing of WT and EV and the deepness of both bands lyrics.

i am also not the one that started accusing a band of having shallow lyrics.

maybe you should read the thread before attacking people.

I am allowed to express my opinion on why i like TOD's lyrics and how the songs actually have more meaning than amy's past boyfriends.