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Old 08-10-2007, 08:14 AM   #891 (permalink)
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Oh God, not another argument. I know, from a personal standpoint, that if another album comes out, by the time its released, Evanescence will be fully dead to me. I have gone from a Fallen fangirl to total indifference. TOD broke the band for me. I bought TOD thinking it would be the best album I bought all year and...well... Pfffftttt. There was nothing new in there, nothing radical, it all just felt like a pseudo-artistic knockoff of a better album.
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Old 08-10-2007, 09:13 AM   #892 (permalink)
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Oh God, not another argument. I know, from a personal standpoint, that if another album comes out, by the time its released, Evanescence will be fully dead to me. I have gone from a Fallen fangirl to total indifference. TOD broke the band for me. I bought TOD thinking it would be the best album I bought all year and...well... Pfffftttt. There was nothing new in there, nothing radical, it all just felt like a pseudo-artistic knockoff of a better album.
Totally agree. While there are a couple of songs on TOD that really are very good, overall the album lacked for me. The clip of Lacrymosa for that one teaser video made me think (and I hate comparisons) that it would be something similar to THOE. Very epic, very dark, and symphonic. While yes, there are some of those elements sprinkled in, overall it wasn't my taste in music. The lyrics were too shallow for me, and sadly it just seemed like an "I hate my boyfriend/bandmates/fans/cat" album. I'm sorry that you hate everyone, but can you please at least write one metaphorical song? I like interpreting lyrics for myself.


And I really hate how people on EvThreads continue to say it's not commercial and different. IMO, it sounds like a lot of the crap on the radio lately. It makes me "grr."

Oh, and Through my EYES, there is a thing called "public image." How would it look if Amy said before a big tour that they were all quitting forever and never reinvigorating Ev for a third album? Probably would make a lot of fans mad. So until touring is done, and everything settles down, NO ONE and I say NO ONE (even if you, who continues to think that everything that comes out of Amy's mouth is completely true) can say that Ev will make a third album, or die out and become a thing of the past.
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Old 08-10-2007, 01:51 PM   #893 (permalink)
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its like she tried so hard to move away from fallen and ben's formula that she lost all the evanescence was built on. Kinda reminded me of the south park episode where they tried to take out any offensive stuff out of the Christmas play that CHristmas was lost all together
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Old 08-10-2007, 02:03 PM   #894 (permalink)
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its like she tried so hard to move away from fallen and ben's formula that she lost all the evanescence was built on. Kinda reminded me of the south park episode where they tried to take out any offensive stuff out of the Christmas play that CHristmas was lost all together
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Old 08-10-2007, 03:45 PM   #895 (permalink)
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its like she tried so hard to move away from fallen and ben's formula that she lost all the evanescence was built on.
Yes and I felt like she tried to do something she could never do. It might have been on this thread or another but I'll repeat it.. she will never be Tori Amos. And as a Mozart fan, I felt like Lacrymosa was a travesty.
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Yes and I felt like she tried to do something she could never do. It might have been on this thread or another but I'll repeat it.. she will never be Tori Amos. And as a Mozart fan, I felt like Lacrymosa was a travesty.
I, too, love Mozart...but I don't have a problem with Lacrymosa. Initially, I was disappointed with it, especially because I thought the 30-second clip we heard of it would be how the whole song was. But I grew to love it...especially after I saw it live. Now it's one of my favorites on the album The way I see it, it's more like a song she wrote that Lacrymosa worked well for as a supplement...rather than a song that was completely worked from the original by Mozart (which it is, technically, but that's how I've come to view the song).

Hopefully that made sense.
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Oh, and Through my EYES, there is a thing called "public image." How would it look if Amy said before a big tour that they were all quitting forever and never reinvigorating Ev for a third album? Probably would make a lot of fans mad. So until touring is done, and everything settles down, NO ONE and I say NO ONE (even if you, who continues to think that everything that comes out of Amy's mouth is completely true) can say that Ev will make a third album, or die out and become a thing of the past.
Plus Amy has a thing for stretching the truth, I do not believe a word out of her mouth even if her tongue was notorized by a court.
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Plus Amy has a thing for stretching the truth, I do not believe a word out of her mouth even if her tongue was notorized by a court.

Well said.

I suppose we'd better get back to the discussion on the album?? Was I the only one who was a bit peeved with two songs about how she hates being famous and the pressure of fans?? It annoys me in the same way as her hatred of MI annoys me, it seems to smack a bit of ego and ingratitude. I mean, that song is one of the reasons she's still around, and the fans love it. I sure as hell didn't pay for my ticket so that I could sing the song. She's only been singing that for a few years. I know bands that have been singing certain songs every concert for almost ten years, and even longer, and yet they don't say stuff like "If I have to sing this song 1,000 times, you guys better sing along" or make a fuss over a hit. I see other bands singing their older songs with real enthusiasm. It doesn't matter if she didn't write it, the fans love it, end of, IMO.
And back to those two songs.. I mean, even one would have been two much. Or she could have hidden it under a few metaphors, at the very least. I just felt the album was too self-centred to be honest.
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It annoys me in the same way as her hatred of MI annoys me, it seems to smack a bit of ego and ingratitude. I mean, that song is one of the reasons she's still around, and the fans love it. I sure as hell didn't pay for my ticket so that I could sing the song. She's only been singing that for a few years.
Well... we can't oblige her to like it... I mean you don't like «those two songs»...it's not a reason to dislike you... and, My immortal... it has been in the band since the early years... so they played it for almost a decade(not as mush as they played it in the past...3 years let's say but still...). And a lot of fans are just...annoyed by MI because it has been somehow overplayed (but, yeah, your are right the «softer fans» (as I call them) who mostly listen to singles and radio really like it and want it to be played... so it is normal that they still play it live... but it would be stupid to love a song just because it was their most popular (with Bring me to life)... if it was the case, you'd say that she is hypocrite and that she only loves it because of the success and all that shit... she has her opinions and it's better for her to tell them than to lie just to be as everyone would love her to be (which would make her an hypocrite)

And for the public image if she said that they won't do any new album... well... if she said that... wouldn't it just drag more fans to their shows because those would be their last ones... I don't know if they'll do a third album... but I don't think it is a question of public image... because, financially and popularity wise... it would be somehow «good» if they said that this was their last album... Just my opinion...feel free to bash it or contradict it... but... that how I see it (just look at those celebrities who are doing their 15th «Goodbye tours»...they always do that because it makes people want to come to the concerts, because it may be the last one)
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