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Likes Stilts!
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Location: at the heart of your darkest nightmares and deepest desires
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well i have just reserved my copy of twilight at my local library but i have to wait for 11 more people to read it and there is only 2 copies so i am currently checking prices at my local bookshops but i can't see me buying a copy as im stuck at home unable to drive much less walk like a normal person.
in other words it sounds great i think the movie looks good as well (i am a fan of some vampire genre- think anne rice)
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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This might cause some drama (which honestly i'm not trying to start) but as of now i can no longer stand the series. I used to like it-well, actully, love it. But after reading the second and third book, i realized how pointless and typiclly feminine the story is. Bella is an dense, insipid, annoying, self-centered coward who can't do anything without almost dying. This gets annoying after awhile when almost every chapter she ends up bleeding or getting hurt. Besides all that, Bella constantly plays the role of the damsel in distress which in it's self is annoying. Then Edward is supposed to be perfect and basically a superman with fangs. This sets up for an annoying unrelatable character, even if it is a vampire. IMO, having vampires that are perfect and super powerful that interact with humans is kinda pointless because then they aren't evenly matched. some of you may argue that "that's the point," but as a reader it just makes thing weird. You want charcters that can interact on an even scale. I'm not saying vampires shouldn't be stronger than humans, but that humans should at least have a chance. The other annoying thing is Edward is all "your blood smells delicious and i could kill you at any time, but i can't cause i love you and i don't want to turn you but wahhh...you're delicious smelling...". it's like either turn her and shut up about it or stop bitching about how breakable she is. Then don't even get me started on Jacob, who turns a slightly likeable story into a disgusting soap opera by interfering with the relationship and causing the typical love triangle drama. Her whole twist on the werewolf senario where "it only runs in a native-american family and they can't turn anyone" is kinda lame also. In general her writing is simple and rediculously drawn out (i mean why do i have to read about what bella had foir dinner and her everyday life for three chapters before something happens?!?!). On top of that, it's only likeable to the millions of typical teenage girls who lap up the idea of a perfect man falling in love with an imperfct unlikeable girl. I'm especially sickened by the series' rabid fans as well as the movie about to come out about it (I'm pretty sure it's the idea of a movie that made me start to hate the series-beside the fact that i woke up to the simplicity and stupidity of the story). *takes deep breath* okay that was my rant/my opinion of the series, sorry if i offended anyone, but i'm just stating my opinion, just as you are if you say you like the series. so don't get all pissy at me.^_^
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Northern Star
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Everyone is allowed their opinions, lol, don't worry about getting attacked. Alot of the rabid fans do remind me of Amy Lee fans--willing to defend the series to the death. (Example: Twilight Moms) Anyway, I disagree with a few of your points. I think Bella is a likeable character in Twilight, but I do tend to dislike her in Eclipse simply because she does tend to go in circles. However, I think her character needs to do this in order to develop into who she truly is...and I enjoyed Eclipse alot. I wasn't a huge fan of New Moon, and the reason for that is not because Edward is gone, but because its just rather a depressing book in general. I loved Jacob until he turned into a werewolf because he turned into Dark!Jacob, and I didn't really enjoy his character as much.
Lastly, while I feel you're right and a MAJORITY of the fans are crazy teenaged girls, not all of them are. For example, I'm almost twenty and I still love to read the books. Also, my boyfriend is in the middle of Twilight and absolutely loves it. So sometimes guys can enjoy it too. I think the romance is part of why people get into it, but if you really want a relationship that will make you pull your hair out, read Libba Bray's A Great and Terrible Beauty novels I still maintain that Twilight is the best book out of all of them though, because its the least complicated. Haha.
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i am a BLACK BULLET
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Don't worry, I'm not going to attack you. I just want to make a few points as well.
I agree with you that Bella can be annoying and she is selfish. About the whole getting hurt all the time thing, I think part of that perhaps, is just her but also it's focused on to show the contrast between her fragileness as a human and Edward and the vampires seeming indestructability. I think the interaction between humans and vampires is interesting. And, Edward is not perfect. He's got a temper, he can be bossy..neither of which are traits that would be in someone who's 'perfect'. And, in most all stories with vampires, humans don't stand a chance. It's just the choice of whether the vampires take advantage of that or not. Edward's choice to turn Bella isn't as simple as we may think it is. It's a very deep, complex thing to him, that we probably don't get the whole view of because we don't really know since the story is Bella's perspective. I really, really don't like Jacob at all, so I'm totally with you on that one. He just annoys the hell outta me and needs to get over it and grow up. And I know people who aren't 'teenage girls' who like it as well, and not just because of Edward. Oh, and the 'Great and Terrible Beauty' books are awesome.
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Likes Stilts!
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^ I am going to have to agree with you, i have just finished reading the first book - i ended up buying it and literally could not put it down. so while i have not got the persceptive from reading the other 2 books from what i have read i can completely agree with what you have said. and you have said it well.
i don't know about anyone else but i can't see the turning thing as simple, i mean it annoys me in some ways as i think ahead and well the whole bella gets older and he stays as he is bugs me. so when i am out today i shall be buying the other 2 and testing my will power as i have assignments that need completing.
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There's no aphrodisiac like loneliness, truth, beauty and a picture of you. Blackbird singing in the dead of night, Take these broken wings and learn to fly All your life You were only waiting for this moment to arise Fly, Blackbird, fly Into the light of the dark black night.
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Northern Star
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Your will power will be no match for the book, lol. I don't usually procrastinate, and I remember when I got New Moon I put off writing a 20 page paper so I could finish the book. That was a sorry mistake...but I ended up getting a B!
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alright alot of people seem to be bringing up the point that not only teens read the book. I am quite aware of this, i've merely noticed that a large majority of the fan base is teenage rabid girls, the minority being older people of both genders. either way...i don't know, maybe it's just because i've read books with more complex characters, more action and the like-or possible because i'm writing several vampire novels myself-that these characters seem annoying, artificial and stereotypical. I find that vampire novels tend to disappoint me because they tend not to have evolved much from what i call the "old vampires" aka vamps that can't handle sunlight, crosses, UV lights, garlic etc.Even though this novel was alright in adapting the older version of what vampires were, i find it alittle "unrealistic" for vampires to be super powerful (forgive the irony/contradiction of the statement). I don't know, maybe it's because i grew up on Buffy (though i despise it now), read other books where vamps weren't super powerful (so the human had a chance albeit a slim one) and in my own story there have been/are human vampire hunters. And the fragility (sp?) of humans vs. vampires gets annoying after a while when we're constantly being reminded that Edward can turn bricks into dust if he touches it too hard-so imagine what he could do to bella by accident-. I don't know, maybe it just have a problem with the series and any argument/explanation given to me will have no affect on my opinion anyway...idk.
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